Okay that explains a lot.In post 1174, Aisa wrote:Also, the whole point of post 1140 is to float some random ideas I had and maybe have a discussion, I won't be able to defend all of the ideas in that post to a high standard.
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This is fair. Tbf the thing I haven't made as clear as I thought was that bbt was always 'town enough ', rather than some lock town soul read and it was more the push on him that looked scumny, which made me more likely to think that he was town. I'd just been in the lost game, where he was a universal scum read for not great reasons and I was one of the scum team.In post 1155, Firebringer wrote:
can we revisit ur townreads from say day 1. Like how did u get BBT town from ur interactions. I had skimmed it and like BBT basically never talked to u. One or two mentions and it wasn't some discussion i would say indicates anything to anyone.In post 1121, Bellaphant wrote:My approach, generally, is to find town: I've spoken about this a lot recently, even in the personality test. It's what I'm struggling with here: I think if could just lock town like, you, grib, fire, bbt and Eir that's a lot, but I'm really iffy on you and grib and bbt.
So lets talk about it
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In what way?In post 1151, Firebringer wrote:BBT ur read change on aisa is pretty jarring
Umm, what? Firstly, what about my posting is 'desperate' and 'flailing' and secondly why are you acting like I'm in some sort of desperate situation? The whole wording of that sentence is nasty.In post 1168, Frogsterking wrote: The quotes above just look like desperate scum flailing (1113 and 1114 especially) and then looking for an easy target to pull down with him. BBT tries harder than I've ever seen them try as Town with their Eira case and then apparently gives up instantly and starts shopping for a Frog wagon instead (1118.) Out of all the player's voting me, BBT looks the least like they actually believe I'm scum. It also looks like it was receiving support from Bella (1122) which caused BBT to vote me so that's making me lean Town on Bella off a BBT scum flip.
You were in the LOST game, you definitely saw me casing numerous people throughout so again, that's just flat out false. Am I supposed to continue pushing Eira when not a single person agrees with what I have to say about him? I'm just wasting my time. Your wagon had momentum with Bella voting on it and I have been fairly critical of you from pretty much the start of the game so why would I not join? I think you'll find I was one of the first people in this game to start scumreading you so for you to say that my vote is the least believable is laughable. You showed 0 interest in engaging with me on D1 despite my numerous questions/quoting of your posts.
202 is where it starts.In post 1169, Frogsterking wrote:Also, there is like nothing about me inBBT's iso but he says something like "you can read it all in my iso" (1123.) I just checked his iso to verify and there's nothing about his frog case there and his pivot onto me in 1118 looks as opportunistic on a reread as it did at first glance.
Continues in 244
In 270 you say 'Good questions BBT, I'll get back you later'...I've seen this somewhere before...
I try to engage you again in 345 even though despite your heavy post count you still didn't address any of my previous issues
After this, I get heavily sidetracked by TSQ and you literally respond to nothing that I have posted to you
635 I again state my disliking for your play (a vote on Solway)
648 Incase it wasn't clear, I flat out call you scum.
Then D1 concludes. So like, what the fuck?
I would love for you to expand on this read because you have literally said jack shit about me or engaged with me the entire game. Aside from my post regarding Eira, you have barely even acknowledged my existence in the game despite me quoting/trying to engage with you on multiple occasions.In post 1173, Frogsterking wrote: Yeah I think BBT is scum with likemoderatecertainty now and I think you're scum withlowcertainty.
Because they didn't. They opportunistically hopped on a wagon with almost 0 reasoning until the actual post that they voted and prior to that didn't have much of an opinion on Solway at all. You don't see a problem with that?In post 1174, Aisa wrote: No, because admittedly I don't remember them offering much prior support. You wondered about any stances Eira had except their town read of me and I told you about one, that's all. I'm not going to argue it's not anopportunisticstance, because it could be.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- Cat Scratch Fever
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Just want the floaty purple orb to have had a good birthday celebration, come back from V/LA, and figure out who is scum so I can sheep them tbh.
This is probably a bad idea, but I just skimmed Bella's ISO and remembered she asked for a scum game of mine to read and I kinda want to town read her for that >.<
It is possible to townread people despite them making scummy looking plays.In post 1178, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:[...]
Because they didn't. They opportunistically hopped on a wagon with almost 0 reasoning until the actual post that they voted and prior to that didn't have much of an opinion on Solway at all. You don't see a problem with that?No, because admittedly I don't remember them offering much prior support. You wondered about any stances Eira had except their town read of me and I told you about one, that's all. I'm not going to argue it's not an opportunistic stance, because it could be.- BlueBloodedToffee
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I should have done that like 24 hours ago.
There is no change in my read of Frog, I just don't want to risk waking up to a hammer tomorrow.
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I apologize for my low engagement this phase, the timing was just overall inconvenient. I'll be rereading Day 2 and updating reads as best I can in the morning, which will leave me with more than 24 hours before deadline.
Since when am I sheep-worthy? By all accounts my Day 1 was terrible in terms of reads. It's hard to be more wrong than "hey what if the scumteam is this VT and two Masons"In post 1181, Aisa wrote:Just want the floaty purple orb to have had a good birthday celebration, come back from V/LA, and figure out who is scum so I can sheep them tbh.- Firebringer
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stop agreeing with me u dirty rabbitIn post 1183, Aisa wrote:I don't think the rest of Bella's ISO looks amazing, actually. I remember BBT saying she is more straightforward about her reads as town but she seems really waffly in the ISO.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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the more frog posts. the more it looks like he is throwing random shit at the wall to see what sticks.
i could see it as possible townie day 1. Stir shit up, get reactions for reads. Now it just looks like he has no committed reads and wants to see what he can get away with pushing.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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One minute: Aisa is my second strongest townreadIn post 1178, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In what way?
Next minute: Aisa pushes you
Minute after: Well maybe i need to reconsider you.
And quite frankly...i don't want to defend aisa what am i saying. I don't think aisa read of u has ever been like bbt town. So its not frankly springing to me that this development came out of nowhere. Its weird ur saying it now given that. At what point does the behavior just become such a switch to scumShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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ugh tried gathering quotes and it broke.
let me seee....
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385 Indicates could be scum because interactions with Shea
400 explains how could be scum but then highlights another post indicating scumread
409 basically drops the read now seeing it more in line with a possible town perspective. basically null here?
449 expresses could be scum with a possible team.
572 votes bbt and hedges a whole lot in it.
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1016 come back with basically saying wants bbt dead. essentially scumread. This development has to do only with flips thus far no explanation of change
1089 expresses doubt about scumread on bbt
and then we get to aisa making a case and diving into you. Like at no point has aisa townread u in this game. Its weird for you to flip when by all appearances you townread aisa for god knows what and aisa isn't acting frankly that much differently except now being less of a waffle on youShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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welp if i read ur iso instead of focused on aisa. i would have found ur explanation faster than just being like "well thats a weird shift"In post 1147, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Meh, my town read on Aisa is kind of dying.
I'm starting to wonder if that early town read from Eira on Aisa is scum/scum but that seems absolutely wild.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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Bellaphant townIn post 1148, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:On the subject of Eira, if anyone can tell me a single stance he has this game outside of his town read on Aisa I'll be impressed.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
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No, I didn't see you do much of that in LOST.In post 1178, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You were in the LOST game, you definitely saw me casing numerous peopleBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I think so yeah, I think I misjudged Aisa.In post 1146, Elements wrote:BBT and Aisa aren't both scumBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I would read itIn post 493, Firebringer wrote:ohh yeah and shea push on BBT is a nothing burger. I read it. Not impressed could go over point by point if anyone interested but mostly it amounts to pushing BBT for saying things that serve no purpose for alignment hunting (dismissing and poisoning well)Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Aisa should really get a notes PT and learn to use it, it will improve their tone a lot IMO.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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As far as I can see, he said she had made 1 'town indicative post'. Given he had an earlier scum read on the slot I'm not sure that one post would equal a town read?In post 1190, Firebringer wrote:
Bellaphant townIn post 1148, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:On the subject of Eira, if anyone can tell me a single stance he has this game outside of his town read on Aisa I'll be impressed.
Happy to be proven wrong if you can find more than I did in his ISO.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- Frogsterking
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I just flipped my sleep schedule from sleeping during the day to sleeping at night.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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