Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[Yume]

Well, you wanted a read that is not mastina-influenced? Congratulations, you've got one.

VOTE: Mathblade

Rah rah rah

[Maid Cafe]

VOTE: mastina

[Yume]

I wanted ONE FUCKING GAME where I'm not the center of attention. Where I could actually have a goddamn town block and work with it and work with people.

I EVEN EXPLICITLY SAID I WAS BEING STRATEGIC.

LIKE OMFG.

It's literally a scum claim to just up and day vig someone without a hella lot of crumbs and communication.

That s why I had no choice but to do it. But instead you make it out like some master evil plan.

NO I JUST WANTED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

instead you decided not to let me and you force a fucking claim.

I hope you get speed elimmed so fast I hit refresh and I see your scum flip.

Wrong, you don't want to work with people. You want people to follow you without question, and anyone who questions you is scum.

Anyone who ignores whatever Mathblade is scum. Ignoring me I can understand, but they also ignore anyone else who tries to tell them mastina is town, like Past Present and Future. That feels like he is trying to ram mastina's lynch through no matter what anyone whose not them says. Which is not a townie mindset. They claim to want to work with people, and then ignores anyone whose opinions don't align with theirs.

[professotic]

And this is similar to what mastina was doing but she's explained why and if I'm not misinterpreting, promised to do research.
Though, I still dislike the formation of the meta read before she did research.
As for Nancy, I

feel like she could be pocketed rather than scum defending a partner.

I remember that she behaved similarly when she was pocketed by Taly in LOST.
-Rubella

This is a good thought.
+Town Points

But the thing is there is a difference between being pocket and believing someone is town and defending a partner.
Certain ways you do it.

[professotic]

I wanted ONE FUCKING GAME where I'm not the center of attention. Where I could actually have a goddamn town block and work with it and work with people.

I EVEN EXPLICITLY SAID I WAS BEING STRATEGIC.

LIKE OMFG.

It's literally a scum claim to just up and day vig someone without a hella lot of crumbs and communication.

That s why I had no choice but to do it. But instead you make it out like some master evil plan.

NO I JUST WANTED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

instead you decided not to let me and you force a fucking claim.

I hope you get speed elimmed so fast I hit refresh and I see your scum flip.

Wrong, you don't want to work with people. You want people to follow you without question, and anyone who questions you is scum.

Anyone who ignores whatever Mathblade is scum. Ignoring me I can understand, but they also ignore anyone else who tries to tell them mastina is town, like Past Present and Future. That feels like he is trying to ram mastina's lynch through no matter what anyone whose not them says. Which is not a townie mindset. They claim to want to work with people, and then

ignores anyone whose opinions don't align with theirs.

So do you wolf read Mastina too?
Cause if you look at the fact Mastina wolf reads anyone who voted them and ignored most of their posts that person voting them as made.
So…

[professotic]

I won’t say Math can’t be a wolf on the other wolf team but Mastina is very obvious wolf rn.

[Yume]

I wanted ONE FUCKING GAME where I'm not the center of attention. Where I could actually have a goddamn town block and work with it and work with people.

I EVEN EXPLICITLY SAID I WAS BEING STRATEGIC.

LIKE OMFG.

It's literally a scum claim to just up and day vig someone without a hella lot of crumbs and communication.

That s why I had no choice but to do it. But instead you make it out like some master evil plan.

NO I JUST WANTED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

instead you decided not to let me and you force a fucking claim.

I hope you get speed elimmed so fast I hit refresh and I see your scum flip.

Wrong, you don't want to work with people. You want people to follow you without question, and anyone who questions you is scum.

Anyone who ignores whatever Mathblade is scum. Ignoring me I can understand, but they also ignore anyone else who tries to tell them mastina is town, like Past Present and Future. That feels like he is trying to ram mastina's lynch through no matter what anyone whose not them says. Which is not a townie mindset. They claim to want to work with people, and then

ignores anyone whose opinions don't align with theirs.

So do you wolf read Mastina too?
Cause if you look at the fact Mastina wolf reads anyone who voted them and ignored most of their posts that person voting them as made.
So…

Mastina also said she's extremely busy, so it's not ignoring, it's being busy.

[Yume]

Plus, Math doesn't have a boon of being correct regarding who the scum are every time I played with them.

[professotic]

That’s where I come in.

As long as I’m not going psycho like I did with Titus, I can find wolves fairly easily.

[professotic]

I also maybe shouldn’t have done that fake red check but we won in the end so I’m not complaining.
I also told everyone Rad and Johnny was town so yay!

[professotic]

I’m trying to remember how Yume played one choice.
I think he was pretty slank.

[professotic]

Or is Yume a she? I don’t see no pronouns.

[T-Bone]

16 T-Bone ---> Town because of the handshake with me earlier. I'll quote it if I have to.

Bruh I don't know what you think we have but we don't

[Radical Rat]

Plus, Math doesn't have a boon of being correct regarding who the scum are every time I played with them.

mastina is a very good Town player, yes. That doesn't mean she can't have rolled scum, and indeed the fact that she IS a good Town player makes me think she should really know better than to be pushing the way she is.

Some of this is tempered by business and mood, but stuff like pushing MathBlade for allegedly having the same role as her, based solely on crumbs, comes from a mindset of scum hunting other scum. And then when that turns out to NOT be the case, instead of admitting she was wrong, or even doubting the claim, she takes it at face value, and then decides it must be a factional ability somehow? It's just her doubling down and trying to force her way, not actual critical evaluation.

As Town, mastina should be worried about a mislim after seeing the assumptions she made were wrong. As scum, it doesn't really matter what MathBlade flips, so she doesn't have as much reason to reconsider.

[professotic]

T-Bone shift from Radja to Mastina automatically narrows down to two worlds.

T-Bone is Town
T-Bone is exactly wolves with Radja and voted for distancing.

So I’m considering T-Bone my high town.

[furtiveglance]

T-Bone shift from Radja to Mastina automatically narrows down to two worlds.

T-Bone is Town
T-Bone is exactly wolves with Radja and voted for distancing.

So I’m considering T-Bone my high town.

But this all relies on Mastina being scum. Which I don't think is even the case. If you look at T-Bone in isolation, they aren't worthy of a TR.

[MathBlade]

16 T-Bone ---> Town because of the handshake with me earlier. I'll quote it if I have to.

Bruh I don't know what you think we have but we don't

I thought you noticed my crumbs re Mastina from a problem that can be handled later.

I still think you’re town but then that makes that other post confusing.

[Frozen Angel]

I dont have a reliable net connection tonight. will try catching up tomorrow instead

[Frozen Angel]

happy scum day to me

[MathBlade]

I wanted ONE FUCKING GAME where I'm not the center of attention. Where I could actually have a goddamn town block and work with it and work with people.

I EVEN EXPLICITLY SAID I WAS BEING STRATEGIC.

LIKE OMFG.

It's literally a scum claim to just up and day vig someone without a hella lot of crumbs and communication.

That s why I had no choice but to do it. But instead you make it out like some master evil plan.

NO I JUST WANTED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

instead you decided not to let me and you force a fucking claim.

I hope you get speed elimmed so fast I hit refresh and I see your scum flip.

Wrong, you don't want to work with people. You want people to follow you without question, and anyone who questions you is scum.

Anyone who ignores whatever Mathblade is scum. Ignoring me I can understand, but they also ignore anyone else who tries to tell them mastina is town, like Past Present and Future. That feels like he is trying to ram mastina's lynch through no matter what anyone whose not them says. Which is not a townie mindset. They claim to want to work with people, and then ignores anyone whose opinions don't align with theirs.

That’s just it.

Look at my crumbs.

I was clearly going to shoot Mastina on the day I fire.

I was absolutely sheeping my TRs.

I was working with TBone and Maid Cafe. This is bullshit.

It wasn’t until Mastina focused exclusively on me that she became a “has to go elim” today.

As I said earlier I didn’t want pages and pages of me and Mastina.

But when she forces the issue and makes the game so damn toxic and decides that she is going to out all my crumbs then yes she has to go today.

Then tomorrow if I live (which I doubt) I can go back into sheep mode.

[MathBlade]

happy scum day to me

Happy scum day

Tldr Mastina outed my crumbs so I am outed dayvig

So pissed I am.

People still think Mastina is town and don’t explain why.

So there you go.

[MathBlade]

And I have seen her pull this as scum

And no it’s not worth effort to find it

Because I am pretty convinced you’re scum defending scum so any reasoning won’t matter

Why isn't it worth an effort?
Wouldn't it be helpful for us to know?
-Rubella

Because as I predicted PPF said she didn’t care about it and those who are not scum see that there’s just some things you don’t do. You already see Mastina is scum. I only have about 10 minutes before work and I want to spend it with people who are talking and communicating. Not just “Mastina is town because I know her meta and ignore all evidence to the contrary”

[mastina]

I know that saying this secures me as the elimination because if I were the one READING it, I'd call it scum AtE, especially since it is a very un-mastina-like thing to do. (And yes, that saying this, literally all of it, doesn’t make it any less scum.)

But to be honest.
Right now I'm not feeling like pretending to be mastina.

Or rather, I don’t want to feel boxed in to pretending to be what I know mastina is. I don’t have the time I wanted to talk about this, but I had a thought of,
"Why do I even bother."
I had the urge to post that, but a voice told me, "hey, that's not a thought that mastina should have, don't display it publicly".

And it's not!

It doesn't fit my style as either alignment. I don’t post that way as scum, I don't post that way as town, it's a very foreign concept to the mastina persona.

But I don’t feel like pretending to match the mastina persona right now.

I know that I have been in my towngame the entire time, and to briefly go back into the mastina persona:
Genuinely, if you are town, you NEVER get to EVER say you can read me again, EVER, if you scumread me. This is Genuinely one of my towniest games of all time, and if you can't see that, you don’t fucking know how to read me. And never pretend you can, because this isn’t an unusual game from me. This IS me.

Well, prior to this post, at least. But this single not-mastina post does not erase that my entire play prior to this WAS mastina. So if you thought that my content prior to this post wasn't me as town: NEVER claim that you can read me again. I will quote this post every. Single. Time. And will NOT let you forget.

But slipping back out of mastina mode, I had those thoughts.
"Why do I even try."
"What's the point of trying."
"I don’t know why I bother."
And even,
"I give up."

mastina never gives up. It's literally against her fundamental philosophy.

Scumastina believes in fighting to the bitter end. Even when she's literally confscum, she believes that the game isn’t over until the last scum dies. And if she's the last scum, she might know that she has a 0% chance of winning, but for good sport, she refuses to surrender and makes the town still work for the inevitable victory.
And in multiball, she has extra incentive to fight. If she goes down, her scumteam is pretty much fucked. (Multiball2 is notably an exception to this rule, because I was negative utility there. It was my belief that we couldn't win with me alive, so I needed to die. After setting FL up for success, obv.)

Town mastina is relentless. She is conviction personified. Absolute faith in herself to be right, no matter what. Being proven wrong isn’t a setback. And new evidence doesn't change prior reads, barring extreme circumstances.
She pushes, continuously, hard, with absolute strength and resolve, with the belief that she is right.
Literally every game recently, a song has had some of the lyrics play through my mind, a personification of my mindset:
"And I am VINDICATED. I am selfish, (I'm not wrong), I'm right, I know I'm right, I've been that way all along". (Not the exact lyrics of the song, mind you; my mental paraphrase of it with all alterations is me claiming the song as mine.)

So when I say mastina never gives up, I mean it. She never does. Regardless of her alignment. The thought of giving up is foreign to her.

But I don't feel like putting on the mastina persona right now, because with how much shit I'm going through, I just DO feel like giving up.

I've literally broken every promise I made to myself for mafia games. I've skipped working out, slacked off on work, am typing in a mafia game rather than working on my novel or keeping up to date on the discord servers I frequent. I haven't streamed, done art, played league or tft (I literally missed out on a full week of tft quests, which guarantees I don’t get the T3 emote) or the new Disney Dreamlight event.

My life has been pretty much exclusively games (which shows if you do a site search--when was my last non-game post? When was my last not-ongoing mafia post?), and I am angry. I am tired. I am frustrated. I am exhausted.

The mastina persona is in particular furious, but I don’t have the ability to muster forth the will to type out that rage. (Oh there’s definitely facets who want me to. But I have the steering wheel, not them, so I'm not.)

There is just physical, mental, and especially emotional, fatigue going on.

So I just don’t feel like trying anymore.

I know that it’s not a mastina thing to do, but I want to say it anyway:

Objectively, I know that MathBlade's way of claiming is probably town, that there are signs of him not being scum, and importantly: that scum are among those who say it's SvS, those who weakly say it's TvT without trying to defuse it unless they have a good reason they can't (e.g. Titus is town, with this belief, but swamped), and those on the sidelines, with a few who are also scum taking the most convenient stance for them.

But subjectively, I feel like MB was crumbing my type of role (by the way--not claiming. Fuck that.), not a killing role, and that his claim fits as a modified factional nightkill, and that 90+% of his posting is scum.

Plus, without him, the options for scum are rather slim.
My locktowns are NEVER scum here. PPF, Yume, etc. Are all never scum.

And most of my townreads, I feel quite strongly about.

So like, the scum pool is quite small.

I know that objectively I should listen to objectivity, but I don't have a direction, so I just don’t know what to do and feel like giving up.

[mastina]

(The irony is not lost on me that normal mastina would see the post I just made as scum, believe me. I am quite aware of the sheer irony of how I would be pushing myself for making that post, in spite of me knowing that it’s town, and that me talking about it would make me even more sure it came from scum. The likes of Roden are probably laughing their asses off at the karmic irony.)

[MathBlade]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13369892 << Scum emotion

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13370271 << But I don’t care to defend myself from scum Mastina

Like even here Mastina fucking admits I am town. Please flip her already.