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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:26 am

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5.01
Votecount 5.01

Ircher (1):
Vanderscamp.

Not voting (3):
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:27 am

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In post 891, Enchant wrote:... Eh. I can bet Don Draper was protected from death.

Ircher? lol, no.
Me? lol!
Vander? Did furtive even townread you? I don't remember.
I agree with this assessment.

@Vander You went down in my reads because I thought SCRRRDBEAR was town FF, and I was town reading furtive more-so. That left Enchant, Porkens, and you, and I didn't find your D2 or early D3 contributions enough to pull you out of my PoE.
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:28 am

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Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here. It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited.
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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:29 am

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In post 844, Ircher wrote:UNVOTE: for now.

SCRRDBEAR is giving the impression of being completely clueless. Porkens was employing the same strategy and flipped Arsonist, so if they are both arsonists, it maked me wonder what their endgame strategy was as I doubt they expected to coast to victory this way.
In post 862, Ircher wrote:VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR
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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:30 am

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In post 902, Ircher wrote:Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here.
It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited
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Explain this.
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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:31 am

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In post 895, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 888, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 885, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:UNVOTE:

for now

Vanders tell me why you’re so sure it’s Ircher?
You have generally been pretty obvtown throughout the game, and I've talked a bit about Ircher above.

My main reasoning why it isn't enchant is that while I agree that the FF claiming stuff was anti-town, at least he was trying, which is more than Ircher has done.
I also agree with him that igniting last night was (sorry scum) absurdly poor play and I believe him when he talks about why he wouldn't have done it.

Actually good point, because if Ircher was town here, I would think arsonist would have targeted him.

The fact that no one other than furtive died probably means that furive made steller protects. I actually think ff trued to burn all of their douses but furive cleverly outsmarted them.

I don’t believe arso only tried to burn furtive.
I'm sorry, but there's zero chance I get targetted by arsonist. I've been scum read by furtive, Vanders, and Porkens all game. That's enough incentive to keep me alive for the mislimming.
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:33 am

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In post 904, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 902, Ircher wrote:Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here.
It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited
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Explain this.
I believe Enchant when Enchant says it would be a bad move. Since I also believe scum Enchant wouldn't carelessly throw the game, I can conclude that Enchant is not arsonist.

Vanders I feel would say they think it is a bad move and then do it anyway for the WIFOM.
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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:35 am

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In post 895, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 888, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 885, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:UNVOTE:

for now

Vanders tell me why you’re so sure it’s Ircher?
You have generally been pretty obvtown throughout the game, and I've talked a bit about Ircher above.

My main reasoning why it isn't enchant is that while I agree that the FF claiming stuff was anti-town, at least he was trying, which is more than Ircher has done.
I also agree with him that igniting last night was (sorry scum) absurdly poor play and I believe him when he talks about why he wouldn't have done it.
Actually good point, because if Ircher was town here, I would think arsonist would have targeted him.

The fact that no one other than furtive died probably means that furive made steller protects. I actually think ff trued to burn all of their douses but furive cleverly outsmarted them.

I don’t believe arso only tried to burn furtive.
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:36 am

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VOTE: Vanderscamp
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:37 am

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In post 902, Ircher wrote:Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here. It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited.
Would you have ignited?
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:40 am

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In post 906, Ircher wrote:
In post 904, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 902, Ircher wrote:Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here.
It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited
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Explain this.
I believe Enchant when Enchant says it would be a bad move. Since I also believe scum Enchant wouldn't carelessly throw the game, I can conclude that Enchant is not arsonist.

Vanders I feel would say they think it is a bad move and then do it anyway for the WIFOM.
Not that I particularly care how you read me since I'm pretty certain you're scum, but it's the opposite; I have a very extensive history on my other site of not making plays that I think are bad for WIFOM reasons, I can link info supporting this if anyone is interested.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:40 am

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I would have considered it.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:39 pm

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In post 907, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 895, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 888, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 885, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:UNVOTE:

for now

Vanders tell me why you’re so sure it’s Ircher?
You have generally been pretty obvtown throughout the game, and I've talked a bit about Ircher above.

My main reasoning why it isn't enchant is that while I agree that the FF claiming stuff was anti-town, at least he was trying, which is more than Ircher has done.
I also agree with him that igniting last night was (sorry scum) absurdly poor play and I believe him when he talks about why he wouldn't have done it.
Actually good point, because if Ircher was town here, I would think arsonist would have targeted him.

The fact that no one other than furtive died probably means that furive made steller protects. I actually think ff trued to burn all of their douses but furive cleverly outsmarted them.

I don’t believe arso only tried to burn furtive.
This post is extremely towny
None of that helps me. I already know I’m town.
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:42 pm

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In post 905, Ircher wrote:
In post 895, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 888, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 885, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:UNVOTE:

for now

Vanders tell me why you’re so sure it’s Ircher?
You have generally been pretty obvtown throughout the game, and I've talked a bit about Ircher above.

My main reasoning why it isn't enchant is that while I agree that the FF claiming stuff was anti-town, at least he was trying, which is more than Ircher has done.
I also agree with him that igniting last night was (sorry scum) absurdly poor play and I believe him when he talks about why he wouldn't have done it.

Actually good point, because if Ircher was town here, I would think arsonist would have targeted him.

The fact that no one other than furtive died probably means that furive made steller protects. I actually think ff trued to burn all of their douses but furive cleverly outsmarted them.

I don’t believe arso only tried to burn furtive.
I'm sorry, but there's zero chance I get targetted by arsonist. I've been scum read by furtive, Vanders, and Porkens all game. That's enough incentive to keep me alive for the mislimming.
Both furtive and I took you out of our PoE, so why wouldn’t you be targeted?
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:44 pm

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In post 906, Ircher wrote:
In post 904, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 902, Ircher wrote:Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here.
It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited
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Explain this.
I believe Enchant when Enchant says it would be a bad move. Since I also believe scum Enchant wouldn't carelessly throw the game, I can conclude that Enchant is not arsonist.

Vanders I feel would say they think it is a bad move and then do it anyway for the WIFOM.
Why?
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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:48 pm

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In post 890, Enchant wrote:
In post 882, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 878, Enchant wrote:I don't like this bullshit pumping from you.
Do you think Don is more likely scum here than either me or Ircher?

How do you feel about Don's contributions throughout the rest of the game?
I don't know. I wanted to open today with plan "let's kill both vander and ircher and win lol".
Yeah, arso can't kill tomorrow, so go wild.


Let's pull everything we know.

There's only 2 ignited: Screrbear (BEAR in future) and furtive self.

It means that furtive did stop one prime somehow. We don't know for sure, but if we discover who he would protect and who arso primed, it will be easier to win.


N1 is unknown
N2 is unknown
N3 is obvious. They doused furtive who claimed. Considering Arso is notcompetent and wanted to get rid of FF ASAP, it means BEAR was doused before, not furtive. If furtive was doused beforehand, then why they didn't ignite instantly if this was goal?
N4 is ignite. Obvs.


On n1-2 they doused BEAR and some other person. I gonna bet that scum doused BEAR at N1, because he looked towny at that point and it's unlikely to quess prime at N1. It's possible but still.


TLDR:
So most likely, at N2, furtive protected someone and prevented them from going hot potato.
Who it would be?
Who would arsos prime N2 and furtive to protect N2?
In post 891, Enchant wrote:... Eh. I can bet Don Draper was protected from death.

Ircher? lol, no.
Me? lol!
Vander? Did furtive even townread you? I don't remember.
Yeah, extremely likely furtive protected me on the correct night, whether it was one or two is anyone’s guess but possible because I think Porkens said I was N1 target, iirc.
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:54 pm

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Actually think I was probably right initially on Enchant be cw.

So @Enchant who do you think it is Ircher or Vanders?
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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:55 pm

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In post 732, Porkens wrote:Firefighter.
N1: don
N2: vandercamp

Been playing bad on purpose to avoid getting doused
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:58 pm

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Yeah, I'm still not very keen to WIFOM that too much
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:58 pm

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Is Ircher vs me actually a decision for you or are you just interested in Enchant's thoughts?
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 12:59 pm

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In post 894, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 891, Enchant wrote:... Eh. I can bet Don Draper was protected from death.

Ircher? lol, no.
Me? lol!
Vander? Did furtive even townread you? I don't remember.
Pretty sure he did, he made a comment during the CC day where he omitted me from the list of Porkens' possible partners, which I thought was kind of strange at the time since I was arguing to not kill Porkens.

Not that it makes me think I was a lock to get saved or anything, but hopefully it helps prove that me igniting last night is not a thing. I already think it's pretty awful but it's not like I would have been afraid of either furtive or bears' reads.
And if it helps, I've played this set as scum before on a different site, I can link the scum chat if anyone wants.
Maybe you should? I think it’s probably Ircher because he was so sure Scrrdbear was FF but Idk.
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:01 pm

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In post 919, Vanderscamp wrote:Is Ircher vs me actually a decision for you or are you just interested in Enchant's thoughts?
Both. All of you locktown me and 2 of you think it’s not Enchant, so yeah his reads are important here.
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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:02 pm

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Guys stop voting please until everyone acknowleges this.

We likely have a firefighter with two clears. There are five alive.

We wagon someone. If no one vouches, we lim them.

Then we get to tomorrow. Arsonist can't have killed.

So gg?
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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:03 pm

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In post 914, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 906, Ircher wrote:
In post 904, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 902, Ircher wrote:Anyway, Draper is always town here, and I'm town here.
It's probably Vanders tbh because if it were Enchant, arsonists would not have ignited
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Explain this.
I believe Enchant when Enchant says it would be a bad move. Since I also believe scum Enchant wouldn't carelessly throw the game, I can conclude that Enchant is not arsonist.

Vanders I feel would say they think it is a bad move and then do it anyway for the WIFOM.
Why?
I don’t understand this take because why would last arsonist throw the game? I don’t even believe that. I think arsonist made a hail Mary burn which flopped which is why we’re still here.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:04 pm

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Scum can't cc firefighter until 4 alive. So if we fuck up, just popcorn massclaim. We get two conftown. A firefighter claim must announce their clear.
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