Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Day Three

[Porkens]

Oh I didn’t realize, ok cool.

[JunkoChan]

like I feel you're overly worried about the seriousness of a page 5 wagon on you

Well this is at leat A reason, and he is more occupied defending himself from this than trying to be helpful

Plus i didn't like the "do the work for me" in the tiene

VOTE: gamma emerald


By the way i'm usually more inclined to lynch more quiet people day 1 so I'm okay with Yume nk15 or not_mafia too at this point, might change my mind tho

These 3 have anything to say about gamma or scrrrrrrdbear?

Ok which cases / posts specifically do you agree with and why?

I already said why I agree with the votes on him, his responses so far do not scream town to me, but I wanted to know why exactly those before my vote where voting him

[JunkoChan]

yume nk15 not_mafia and jhon still haven't said anything about the current state of the game

[Porkens]

Excuse me I have poor reading comprehension and retention. I apologize for making you repeat yourself.

[JunkoChan]

Excuse me I have poor reading comprehension and retention. I apologize for making you repeat yourself.

it's kay, english is not my first lenguage so I suffer from it a bit, so I try to read more carefully I guess?

[Enchant]

English is also my second language.

My first one is Insult Language, but it's banned on fucking mafia scum fuck.

[PenguinPower]

Who do you recommend?

I recommend killing mafia

And who would you recommend starting with to achieve that goal?

[Enchant]

Fuck if i knew, I didn't need you all and won solo.

I already said. NUDGE PPL WITH HIGH PICKS.

For example i nudged Gamma not just because it's hilarious, but because 2 fits.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: enchant

[Enchant]

I remembered why it's preferably to ignore you, you always nudevote me on answers.

[PenguinPower]

I don’t think that’s true tbh. Stop being more useless than me and maybe try actually answering and see what happens though.

[Enchant]

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[Gamma Emerald]

I wanna lean enchant town here?

[PenguinPower]

That should have said NM. My bad.

[Gamma Emerald]

you'd be wrong about that

not sure how i can be wrong on my impression? that's a subjective ask.

Your impression is that I wouldn’t be sensitive this early
I’m saying you’re wrong on that specifically

I can only act from my experience and impression.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84949
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=86908

Two prior instances of me getting tilted on a personal level at early pressure
The second link is extra important because it’s why I think Dann and nsg are sus to some degree, I feel like they should be more cognizant of such a reaction possibly coming from me

[Dannflor]

Gamma…

You were scum in that game

[Roden]

I picked 1 because I thought everyone else would second guess their way out of it.

I played in a pyp a looooong time ago and the town used some big brain method to determine scum based on numbers. It was slightly different as we drafted two numbers. One of you big brains can probably figure it out although it may have required some pregaming. All I know is I felt like town had esp and got me dead just based on the number I picked.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7&start=50

Enchant always picks 1

I think this is something Gamma would react to as either alignment

what feels tvt about it

I don't think Gamma comes out swinging at the start of the game if he's scum. I think it's more likely that it's something he'd work his way up to.

what is this based on

Based on experience with playing with you in the past. Early aggression isn't outside of your scum range, but I don't see any motivation for you to do it as scum this game. Like if you wanted to emulate your town game, sure, but the aggression itself is NAI, so I think it's natural. And I think when you fake aggression it isn't always believable, so I really don't see what scum!you gains from trying to fake it so early here. It's good enough for me to want to set you aside as town, at least for today.

VOTE: Roden

Can you explain the point of this vote?

[Roden]

VOTE: enchant

I don’t think that’s true tbh. Stop being more useless than me and maybe try actually answering and see what happens though.

What's the issue with Enchant here? I feel like he's Doing Things^TM right now.

[Roden]

NM making exactly one post and then fucking off means he probably isn't having fun. Which could mean he can't troll anyone in a scum PT, so slight +town.

[Roden]

I'D SAY PORKENS, ENCHANT AND JUNKO ARE TOWN. PENGUIN IS NULL CLOSER TO TOWN, DANNFLOR IS NULL CLOSER TO SCUM. GAMMA IS SCUM.

What's the reason for Junko town?

VOTE: NK15

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: enchant

I don’t think that’s true tbh. Stop being more useless than me and maybe try actually answering and see what happens though.

What's the issue with Enchant here? I feel like he's Doing Things^TM right now.

Awesome!

What are those things you feel he’s doing?

[Roden]

Spoiler: Content

But for real, either stop with the targeting or explain yourself

Well as i said i won't vote any of "masons" today for sure.

I also won't vote Rosen.

There's also specific members which i don't want to vote for example NM (also how NM and ... Which this one they both sumbitted 14 together i forgot nickname whatever)

Therefore randomly (not really) i picked you


Now selfvote

BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE

OR BOTH

OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

Wait what

Where you get this idea from, why scum would pick same number as teammates

To encourage enchant to talk about the gamestate.

Hey i supposed to be blind idiot, why you ask me?

Fairly i "think" gamestate is easy, if mafia are greedy for power as i think.

I would nudge people with higher numbers. Not because they mafia. Just because why not.

Then depends.

Fuck if i knew, I didn't need you all and won solo.

I already said. NUDGE PPL WITH HIGH PICKS.

For example i nudged Gamma not just because it's hilarious, but because 2 fits.

Now can you tell me what your issue with Enchant is please?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma…

You were scum in that game

That’s irrelevant
The point I’m making is that I tilt at early pushes sometimes

[Not_Mafia]

Where penguin? Why cat?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Readalong thoughts

Spoiler:

VOTE: johnny

No hard feelings abt lost... right?
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Enchant has some vague nondescript beef with me, I would rather he actually speak his mind rather than just target me nonsensically

Gamma opens real spicy lately
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I also won't vote Rosen.

Uh why? They haven't even posted yet?
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TO MISLEAD

This makes me not trust you at all
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you’ll find why I chose the number I did is obvious.

Looked back to see if you picked 69 or sum
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@Enchant

has Gamma indicated their annoyance with you voting them early in the past?
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Mafia Goon is like Vigilante, but you fight with two weirdos for right to use it

This made me laugh
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I picked 1 because I thought everyone else would second guess their way out of it.

Trying to decide if this is "I have a cool anecdote" or "I'm being preemptively defensive"
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IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

Gamma's clearly not following you here and neither am I.
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THAT'S HOW I ROLL

Lol I like this guy
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mm my heart is saying that Junko entering the game dumb telling to this extent is more town indicative

there is an off chance she thought she could take advantage of her extended absence from the site but this feels... a little too blatant?

maybe I'm reading too much into something that's just NAI

I win entire scum games because of thinking like this. Some of us are just dumb.
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What's the reason for Junko town?

WOAH Nk is in this game
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Stealth hi bye
I got the role I wanted

What a ballsy intro I love it
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Yeah I feel like scum might very well have picked whatever would confuse town the most.

On top of that with the variable nature of this setup I'm sure I could come up with a reason why scum would pick every single option on this board
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I played a bunch with GE as both alignments and he usually isn't this... I don't know what it is I see in his posts but it's weird.

Gamma's big mad lately.
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what's your interpretation of NK15's one post? do you think it's just NAI?

You didn't ask me this but solely popping in to push back on a townread seems more scummy than townie.
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Lol porky agrees
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in fact i think the process is like very marginally town indicative for nsg even though i disagree

I agree with this whole post
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By the way i'm usually more inclined to lynch more quiet people day 1 so I'm okay with Yume nk15 or not_mafia too at this point, might change my mind tho

@Junko

- do you review your posts before you submit them? Or do you just play more off the dome?
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Junko do you any reads

have

do you have any reads

Live with your choices coward
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so who we killing

I'd prolly be pushing for Junko or maybe Dann at this point in the read, if anybody.
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And are you voting them “for pressure” or do you actually scumread them?

I feel like this is obvious at the point of post
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yume nk15 not_mafia and jhon still haven't said anything about the current state of the game

Lol I've been added to the list
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Gamma…

You were scum in that game

LOL
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NM making exactly one post and then fucking off means he probably isn't having fun. Which could mean he can't troll anyone in a scum PT, so slight +town.

This is the best way to read NM I've ever encountered

Dannflor playing straight man to this whole clown thread is fun to read.

On Gamma vs. everybody: I'm just not feeling Gamma's wagon. I don't trust Bear or Junko atm, pengy is always a question mark. On top of that I don't know what is happening with Gamma lately but they seem troubled and it's coming through as aggressive exasperation over and over again in games lately. It's NAI and honestly hard to read around.

I'll basically vote Enchant whenever, they're a hard read.

Those are my thoughts off the dome. AMA