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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:27 pm

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TicTac might not agree with this vote here cause I don’t think they talked about Bunny much in hydra chat if at all, but I’m confident myself in this.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:30 pm

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In post 1759, Bunnyonce wrote:@prof, no? Here is my current list. Greeting is the expert on his opinion so he can tell you about his reads when he is online.

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Everyone else is sort of a shrug. Yes, I know I said I had a mini gut read on DDS as town, I don't feel like it's based on enough evidence to move them officially into the townleans.

-Aisa

BTW, this is there readslist right?

In #1048 this is what they posted.
“As for MathBlade, I believe the slot is more likely to be scum than mastina”

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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:34 pm

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In post 1758, MMR wrote:
In post 1756, professotic wrote:Wolves hard defending each other.
Nancy was pocketed by Taly and you thought that they were scum together.
Are you certain that this is scum!PPF and scum!mastina, not town!PPF being pocketed?
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This isn’t the same at all. I have had very little experience playing with scum!Taly. In Labrynth they were aggressively over-confident, so I thought they had to be town because they were the complete opposite of that. Perhaps scum!Taly is most likely on the two opposite ends of that spectrum?

Anyway, Mastina is a completely different case. Unlike Taly, I have played numerous games with Mastina as both alignments and as I already stated and proven by my post from Doubles that I am extremely good at tone reading her. It’s extremely frustrating that I’m not getting believed because of my wrong reads on Taly and OtH in that game. :/
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:44 pm

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In post 1777, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1758, MMR wrote:
In post 1756, professotic wrote:Wolves hard defending each other.
Nancy was pocketed by Taly and you thought that they were scum together.
Are you certain that this is scum!PPF and scum!mastina, not town!PPF being pocketed?
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This isn’t the same at all. I have had very little experience playing with scum!Taly. In Labrynth they were aggressively over-confident, so I thought they had to be town because they were the complete opposite of that. Perhaps scum!Taly is most likely on the two opposite ends of that spectrum?

Anyway, Mastina is a completely different case. Unlike Taly, I have played numerous games with Mastina as both alignments and as I already stated and proven by my post from Doubles that I am extremely good at tone reading her. It’s extremely frustrating that I’m not getting believed because of my wrong reads on Taly and OtH in that game. :/
I'm not trying to criticise your read on mastina.
I just feel annoyed that Prof seems to be ignoring that you could be pocketed and that you defending mastina doesn't make you partnered.
Sorry for your frustration.
I'll try not to be influenced by LOST in my future reads.
On another note, I dislike prof's vote on Bunny.
He's using Greeting's SR on Math to attack Aisa's TR on Math.
It's not like hydra heads must all have the same read.
Either that or he hasn't been reading Bunny's posts.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:44 pm

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In post 1772, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 1762, MMR wrote:
Bunnyonce wrote:@prof, no? Here is my current list. Greeting is the expert on his opinion so he can tell you about his reads when he is online.

Townread

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Townlean

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Everyone else is sort of a shrug. Yes, I know I said I had a mini gut read on DDS as town, I don't feel like it's based on enough evidence to move them officially into the townleans.

-Aisa
Wait.
Is most of the others null, then?
Or am I missing your SRs?
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Yeah. I mean, sometimes things ping me but none of the pings feel really stable enough to call scum. It’s not that I don’t have ideas at all, but developing the ideas takes time and somehow just hasn’t really happened this game.

I’m going to bed, bye for now~

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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 1:54 pm

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Actually my comment about the Math/Mastina read thing might not completely hold.
Since Greeting’s was the one who said they TR Mastina higher and not Aisa.

However, even so I think they should have had a similar read in that regard or have talked about it?
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:07 pm

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In post 1780, professotic wrote:Actually my comment about the Math/Mastina read thing might not completely hold.
Since Greeting’s was the one who said they TR Mastina higher and not Aisa.

However, even so I think they should have had a similar read in that regard or have talked about it?
Hydra dissonance is a thing.
For example, rn I don't SR mastina as much as Measles while Mumps doesn't SR mastina as much as me.
Also, previously both of my hydra partners didn't SR FA when I did.
This could equally apply to Greeting and Aisa.
Greeting could SR one thing but Aisa TRs that.
The result is that their reads contradict and sorting them based of their reads becomes harder.
Which is why I'm finding their dissonance NAI.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:08 pm

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In post 1778, MMR wrote:
In post 1777, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1758, MMR wrote:
In post 1756, professotic wrote:Wolves hard defending each other.
Nancy was pocketed by Taly and you thought that they were scum together.
Are you certain that this is scum!PPF and scum!mastina, not town!PPF being pocketed?
-Rubella
This isn’t the same at all. I have had very little experience playing with scum!Taly. In Labrynth they were aggressively over-confident, so I thought they had to be town because they were the complete opposite of that. Perhaps scum!Taly is most likely on the two opposite ends of that spectrum?

Anyway, Mastina is a completely different case. Unlike Taly, I have played numerous games with Mastina as both alignments and as I already stated and proven by my post from Doubles that I am extremely good at tone reading her. It’s extremely frustrating that I’m not getting believed because of my wrong reads on Taly and OtH in that game. :/
I'm not trying to criticise your read on mastina.
I just feel annoyed that Prof seems to be ignoring that you could be pocketed and that you defending mastina doesn't make you partnered.
Sorry for your frustration.
I'll try not to be influenced by LOST in my future reads.
On another note, I dislike prof's vote on Bunny.
He's using Greeting's SR on Math to attack Aisa's TR on Math.
It's not like hydra heads must all have the same read.
Either that or he hasn't been reading Bunny's posts.
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Well you’d think he’d be recessing that read considering he wrongly deathtunnelled me in LOST. Anyway, I feel pretty damn confident that I’m not wrong. I would be really shocked if Mastina didn’t flip town here because to me it’s just so extremely obvious that this is her towngame.

Can you link/quote the post where Greeting srs Math?
I just ISO’d them and I couldn’t find it.
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:11 pm

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In post 1776, professotic wrote:
In post 1759, Bunnyonce wrote:@prof, no? Here is my current list. Greeting is the expert on his opinion so he can tell you about his reads when he is online.

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MathBlade
Yume
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Townlean

STD/Ydrasse
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Everyone else is sort of a shrug. Yes, I know I said I had a mini gut read on DDS as town, I don't feel like it's based on enough evidence to move them officially into the townleans.

-Aisa

BTW, this is there readslist right?

In #1048 this is what they posted.
“As for MathBlade, I believe the slot is more likely to be scum than mastina”

@Math
Please do me a favour.
When Mastina flips Red, Day Vig this.
Regardless of Mastina’s flip, I am going into lurker mode
If for some reason we don’t get a Mastina flip I am going into lurker mode unless Mastina makes me come out of it

I am going to work on a system where it’s like another elim.

Then I only include my scumreads on it.

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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:12 pm

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In post 1782, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1778, MMR wrote:
In post 1777, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1758, MMR wrote:
In post 1756, professotic wrote:Wolves hard defending each other.
Nancy was pocketed by Taly and you thought that they were scum together.
Are you certain that this is scum!PPF and scum!mastina, not town!PPF being pocketed?
-Rubella
This isn’t the same at all. I have had very little experience playing with scum!Taly. In Labrynth they were aggressively over-confident, so I thought they had to be town because they were the complete opposite of that. Perhaps scum!Taly is most likely on the two opposite ends of that spectrum?

Anyway, Mastina is a completely different case. Unlike Taly, I have played numerous games with Mastina as both alignments and as I already stated and proven by my post from Doubles that I am extremely good at tone reading her. It’s extremely frustrating that I’m not getting believed because of my wrong reads on Taly and OtH in that game. :/
I'm not trying to criticise your read on mastina.
I just feel annoyed that Prof seems to be ignoring that you could be pocketed and that you defending mastina doesn't make you partnered.
Sorry for your frustration.
I'll try not to be influenced by LOST in my future reads.
On another note, I dislike prof's vote on Bunny.
He's using Greeting's SR on Math to attack Aisa's TR on Math.
It's not like hydra heads must all have the same read.
Either that or he hasn't been reading Bunny's posts.
-Rubella
Well you’d think he’d be recessing that read considering he wrongly deathtunnelled me in LOST. Anyway, I feel pretty damn confident that I’m not wrong. I would be really shocked if Mastina didn’t flip town here because to me it’s just so extremely obvious that this is her towngame.

Can you link/quote the post where Greeting srs Math?
I just ISO’d them and I couldn’t find it.
I do agree with you that it would be expected for Drap to reaccess.
I'm pretty sure that it was in .
P-Edit: On a reread though, I missed part of his post. Greeting thinks that Math is scummier than mastina, not Math is scum.
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:13 pm

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In post 1777, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1758, MMR wrote:
In post 1756, professotic wrote:Wolves hard defending each other.
Nancy was pocketed by Taly and you thought that they were scum together.
Are you certain that this is scum!PPF and scum!mastina, not town!PPF being pocketed?
-Rubella
This isn’t the same at all. I have had very little experience playing with scum!Taly. In Labrynth they were aggressively over-confident, so I thought they had to be town because they were the complete opposite of that. Perhaps scum!Taly is most likely on the two opposite ends of that spectrum?

Anyway, Mastina is a completely different case. Unlike Taly, I have played numerous games with Mastina as both alignments and as I already stated and proven by my post from Doubles that I am extremely good at tone reading her. It’s extremely frustrating that I’m not getting believed because of my wrong reads on Taly and OtH in that game. :/
Tbh I don’t believe you because you’re tonally similar to heroes to me. Has nothing to do with Lost.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:13 pm

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To be clear the P-Edit was a continuation of my original post and not addressed to Math.
Also, above was me.
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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:14 pm

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In post 1786, MMR wrote:To be clear the P-Edit was a continuation of my original post and not addressed to Math.
Also, post above Math's was me.
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:16 pm

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By the way, what is everybody's opinion of prof's pivot to Bunny?
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:17 pm

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In post 1785, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1777, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 1758, MMR wrote:
In post 1756, professotic wrote:Wolves hard defending each other.
Nancy was pocketed by Taly and you thought that they were scum together.
Are you certain that this is scum!PPF and scum!mastina, not town!PPF being pocketed?
-Rubella
This isn’t the same at all. I have had very little experience playing with scum!Taly. In Labrynth they were aggressively over-confident, so I thought they had to be town because they were the complete opposite of that. Perhaps scum!Taly is most likely on the two opposite ends of that spectrum?

Anyway, Mastina is a completely different case. Unlike Taly, I have played numerous games with Mastina as both alignments and as I already stated and proven by my post from Doubles that I am extremely good at tone reading her. It’s extremely frustrating that I’m not getting believed because of my wrong reads on Taly and OtH in that game. :/
Tbh I don’t believe you because you’re tonally similar to heroes to me. Has nothing to do with Lost.
I don’t want to get banned, so I very respectfully ask that you don’t talk to me or about me, thanks.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:19 pm

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Just to be clear Math, I am intentionally not responding to your posts because I don’t trust myself not to go off on you.
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:28 pm

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I still don't get why mastina and Bunny are partnered.
It feels like a lot of the reasons are based off Bunny's posts, ignoring mastina almost completely.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:30 pm

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I probably missed it but could anybody explain which parts of mastina's posts feels partnered with Bunny?
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:32 pm

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Look at Bunny’s response to Furtive’s read on Mastina or whatever.

Also look that Bunny defended Mastina a little bit by saying they town read them more then math to discredit math.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:38 pm

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In post 1793, professotic wrote:Look at Bunny’s response to Furtive’s read on Mastina or whatever.

Also look that Bunny defended Mastina a little bit by saying they town read them more then math to discredit math.
Could you link the first one?
I don't exactly think that SRing Math more than mastina counts as discrediting.
It's like me saying I SR mastina more than Math. Am I discrediting mastina now?
I think that you oversimplified Greeting's post. The main problem in his post was not the SR of Math but his belief that mastina's actions made sense and that Math's interactions with mastina were therefore concerning to him.
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:39 pm

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At least, this is how I interpreted his post as saying after my last reread.
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:50 pm

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VOTE: Radja

He isn’t solving. Read his ISO and tell me that’s a town ISO.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:43 pm

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@Prof, if Mastina flips town, which I’m extremely confident she will, what will your solve be then?

I’m hoping people will actually trust me on this and while I really appreciate MMR defending me as a possible pocket, I honestly don’t believe history is going to repeat itself because I strongly believe I’m right on Mastina.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:12 pm

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In post 1797, Past Present Future wrote:@Prof, if Mastina flips town, which I’m extremely confident she will, what will your solve be then?

I’m hoping people will actually trust me on this and while I really appreciate MMR defending me as a possible pocket, I honestly don’t believe history is going to repeat itself because I strongly believe I’m right on Mastina.
I hope that you're right.
TBH I'm talking with my hydra partners rn on moving our vote off mastina. Mumps has agreed to it but I'm still waiting on Measles to confirm.
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