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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:45 am

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13525749

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So mainly if Drapion is scum I can figure out the why I think The Who makes sense

It’s just so weird
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:50 am

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Because if we assume Drapion scum then either
A) Drapion is scum with Mastina is true
Or
B) Drapion is not scum with Mastina is true.

If A> Why does Drapion stay on Mastina and scream Mastina is scum for so long only to abandon it?
If B> Why does Drapion leave the Mastina wagon when it helps him?

And if town then why does Drapion do what he did off the Mastina wagon and why does he just give up?
Why not claim the role?

These questions have reasons and I wish Drap didn’t just quit posting.
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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:53 am

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Would you think saying "Prof gives up as scum" is a fair statement of what you're trying to say?
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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:54 am

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Irrespective of the current game state and being confused to what he's doing.
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 1952, T-Bone wrote:Would you think saying "Prof gives up as scum" is a fair statement of what you're trying to say?
Partially.

It’s that Prof gives up as scum
for a reason
. Italics important.

So if he is scum giving up why?

There seems no inherent benefit.

I think here he is giving up for a reason just a matter of town or scum.
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:00 am

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In post 1927, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1925, furtiveglance wrote:Prof is town guys
I want to see where this goes

If he is town he’s sure not thinking logically.
Yeah I thought about amending my post to what you just explained after I posted it. I also think having a bad day could satisfy that requirement but who knows?

I do know Prof if you give up, we lim you, and you flip town, I'm gonna ignore your reads because I can't trust them coming from someone who gave up on the game state. Makes me think you gave up long before now.
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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:01 am

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Rough readslist, as promised. Not doing any proper ISO digging right now, but...

Spoiler:
Town
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Townlean
Scarfmanship
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Scum
mastina
professotic


Not ordered within each tier, and isn't accounting for who's on which team, since I don't have a clear picture of that myself yet.
Pleasantly surprised that I wound up with about the correct number of scum though. I'd be willing to compromise on any of them if we're not doing mastina. Preference is obviously going to be professotic though, like. That is a tremendously overblown reaction for Town to have, and I am once again confused by someone claiming only the dangerous parts of their role without actually giving us the information to properly evaluate the claim.
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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:01 am

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I can't read "how can i be voted when i solved the entire game" with a straight face. How can you believe you've solved the entire game in a large game on d1?

I'm interested by the fact that it doesn't seem like prof is interested in staying alive. Did prof always plan on dying today? I don't think so.
I think here he is giving up for a reason just a matter of town or scum.
Can you reword this?
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:10 am

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In post 1957, Scarfmanship wrote:I can't read "how can i be voted when i solved the entire game" with a straight face. How can you believe you've solved the entire game in a large game on d1?

I'm interested by the fact that it doesn't seem like prof is interested in staying alive. Did prof always plan on dying today? I don't think so.
I think here he is giving up for a reason just a matter of town or scum.
Can you reword this?
Professor said he’s no longer posting.

This is a deliberate choice.

There is a reason for that choice (strategy / emotion)

If it’s a scum strategy then that might indicate partners on wagon or deliberate discussed response indicating daychat.
If it’s scum emotion partners don’t have cred to save him, indicating maybe no day chat

If it’s town strategy best I don’t say what I think for this and not contest it
If it’s town emotion I was hoping questions would bring him back.
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:20 am

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Coming back just to say one more thing before I go.


I revoke my Radical town read, they can be in the same place as MMR.
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:20 am

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In post 1959, professotic wrote:Coming back just to say one more thing before I go.


I revoke my Radical town read, they can be in the same place as MMR.
Any particular way I can get a full claim from you?
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:22 am

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“I do know Prof if you give up, we lim you, and you flip town, I'm gonna ignore your reads because I can't trust them coming from someone who gave up on the game state. Makes me think you gave up long before now.”

Then your just a jerk, simple.


I say things are gonna be my last post but I genuinely keep finding something I feel the need to respond to.
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:22 am

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In post 1960, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1959, professotic wrote:Coming back just to say one more thing before I go.


I revoke my Radical town read, they can be in the same place as MMR.
Any particular way I can get a full claim from you?
Yes, TicTac claims it.


IMHO it’s more optimal for us not to claim it and say we won’t claim it.
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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:23 am

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Even if wolves Roleblock us it’s still beneficial.
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:23 am

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Even if wolves don’t do anything to us it’s still beneficial.
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:24 am

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Can you give a last reads wall case?
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:27 am

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In post 1887, Maid Cafe wrote:Bunny has now overtaken MMR in person I want to vote the most. More news at 11
Probably just vote them both out if I’m executed tbh.
Since they don’t want to vote Mastina anymore town might as well vote out a different wolf.
Heck if you want to vote out a wolf probably on the other wolf time FA or Radja probably works for tomorrow.

Idk I really don’t want to post cause players that “think” I’m bad need to realize they are wrong.

Can’t say I’m not a god when in Meg’s last game I legit did all the work for town.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:27 am

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In post 1965, MathBlade wrote:Can you give a last reads wall case?
Depends.
Our people gonna listen to it or be a jerk like T-Bone claims he will be.
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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:28 am

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I have a brief of my reads in my ISO and it should be obvious on my solve here.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:29 am

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Like what’s even the case on me?

Wanting to make sure both wagons are wolves and wolf doesn’t have a chance to ML a town member?


OH YEAH
REALLY FUCKING WOLFY
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:29 am

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In post 1961, professotic wrote:“I do know Prof if you give up, we lim you, and you flip town, I'm gonna ignore your reads because I can't trust them coming from someone who gave up on the game state. Makes me think you gave up long before now.”

Then your just a jerk, simple.


I say things are gonna be my last post but I genuinely keep finding something I feel the need to respond to.
I know I made this post to make you come back. Play with me instead of giving up if you're town.
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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:29 am

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In post 1967, professotic wrote:
In post 1965, MathBlade wrote:Can you give a last reads wall case?
Depends.
Our people gonna listen to it or be a jerk like T-Bone claims he will be.
I wouldn’t ask if I didn’t think it wouldn’t help.

Some people maybe jerks.

This dude would read it though.
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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:30 am

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No serious though.
Give me the pin points on why I’m a wolf.
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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:32 am

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In post 1972, professotic wrote:No serious though.
Give me the pin points on why I’m a wolf.
I am not voting you.

I cannot articulate that as it’s not my case and a majority of it was while I was asleep.

I will leave that answer to someone else.

What I do want is a final look in your head.

I said earlier I was resetting.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:34 am

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1 Radical Rat* - Sub To Team if Wrong
2 Mastina - Wolf Team 1
3 professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac) - The Town Member people like to execute for fun.
4 Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (Hydra with Klick and Bellaphant)
5 Child of Fairies Scarfmanship - Town
6 Past Present Future (Hydra of Nancy Drew 39, Titus, and Auro) - Wolf Team 1
7 Yume** - Town
8 Enchant - Town
9 Bunnyonce (Hydra of Aisa and Greeting) - Wolf Team 1
10 MMR (Hydra of Ircher, RH9, and Roden) - Sub to Team if wrong
11 Frozen Angel - Wolf Team 2
12 Maid Cafe* - Town
13 Korina Mathblade - Town but wouldn’t hold it if lived past day 3.
14 Furtiveglance - Town
15 Save the Dragons* Ydrasse - Town
16 T-Bone* - Town or Sub only on Team 2 if Radja is right.
17 radja* - Wolf Team 2
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