In post 1973, catboi wrote:I have basically not been thinking about this game at all because it pained me to do so but I am back now so let's go
In post 1706, KittyTacky wrote:
Because T3 doesn't seem to be faking imo and just seems to be genuinely struggling with catching up.
In post 1707, KittyTacky wrote:Yes they are a null read but the wagon is still strange because I don't see a good reason for it.
In post 1709, KittyTacky wrote: In post 1584, Alisae wrote:Might as well disclose it since scum likely know by now.
Titus joined Wind Clan and I asked in wind clan if we could potentially flashwagon T3 since I townread everyone else in hood. This makes sense since we were talking about if there was scum in the hood and I thought if there was scum in our hood its probs just T3.
Norwee agreed with the idea so I went with it. I obvs couldn't get to check in with Val or Shiro about it since time was kind off of the essence. It was an idea worth trying because maybe if we did say eliminate T3 and flip him before he could tell scum that Titus joined Wind Clan, that would be a huge edge to have over scum. This is assuming he does flip scum ofc.
Ah. Well I think you're scum, this wagon is scum-motivated, and so T3 is more likely town unless it's a bus. :shrug:
I have a big issue with this and it's that the reasoning is essentially circular - alisae is scummy for wagoning T3, T3 is null but he's more likely to be town because alisae is wagoning him, there's no root reasoning for any of it. I thought alisae's reason for the vote was basically fine even if the declaration of "we gotta flashwagon T3" was weird
Not just for wagoning T3, also for pushing me with a very fluffy reasoning, like she just jumped on a forming LHF wagon.
and as far as I can tell kittytacky has basically never, at any point, had a coherent reason for calling alisae scum?
I admit I should have been more articulate with my read on her but I was busy deathtunneling, genuinely my mistake.
"I think Alisae is pretty scummy too tbh." + some suggestion that alisae is chainsawing for norwee
"OMGUS"
"Charloux, Alisae, Marashu, Norwee varying degrees of scummy."
"Opportunism." (for voting him)
"Scummmmmmmmmm."
"How about you or your scumbuddy?"
"Aren't you supposed to be AFK?
*gives a thumbs down*
"The T3 flashwagon is so weird. I'd say it's +scum for Alisae but they are already rock bottom scummy along with Norwe, so."
Like, looking at this stuff...I don't get the sense kittytacky is actually trying to evaluate alisae's alignment at all
False
, there's no case
False
, no examination of posts
What is there to examine when basically all of her case is fluff itself?
, literally no substance to the read
How so?
, he's just repeating alisae is scum ad nauseam without actually explaining why at any point
I just explained it. And I'm fairly sure I did before.
. There's only so much you can fall back on "this is my playstyle" as a defense
And I'm not doing that here
. Even less talkative players usually have some visible line of thought but I'm not really getting that at all with kittytacky
My fault honestly
, I can't tell where the scumread actually originated from
Her opportunistic shitpush on me and chainsaw of Norwe
and everything past that point has basically been accusing alisae of scum for pushing him. The stuff about T3 basically set off a flag for me because it's basically starting from the presumption alisae is scum and then painting everything they do as scummy. I'm just not seeing the substance here, at all.