Warrior Cats Mafia [Day Three]

[KittyTacky]

ok i see what i actually want to ask here:

kitty, why do you think that alisae's reasoning is bad? what makes you think it's scum latching on and that it can't come from town? because both the reasons that catboi lined out it 2119 are something that i strongly agree with makes you look suspicious, despite your excuses for them

I explained my reasons in the very post I quoted. Why is it so inconcievable that someone who's never played with even a lenient post restriction would be anxious about it? Yes it is irrational but people aren't robots. I got over it anyways, with some difficulty. As for the latter, idk why people see me simply sheeping something as opportunistic. Just because I had little to add?

[Mistyx]

I PREFER TO HAMMER KITTY OVER T3

i think id rather kill t3

ARE WE TRUE OPPOSITES?

i mean i dont like how much of a fuss he's been making about catching up and then posts a completely unexplained readlist

[KittyTacky]

I shept a case that made sense to me and continues to.

A case that made sense to nobody else and that Mastina themselves admitted wouldn't make sense to anyone other than her.
So why did you somehow "get it"?

I believe Mastina when she said that you interact with scumbuddies the way you talked to certain people D1 and also I remember you in Baseball very well.

When i talked to who?
Also i looked up Baseball and i didn't even remember playing in that game until looking it up lmao.

Alisae. And I have a great memory for things like people's playstyle in games.

[KittyTacky]

FINALLY CAUGHT UP

readlist incoming

Curious timing.

Bullshit. If you did any research at all you would find that I most commonly post between 7:30 and 8:30 EST every morning on weekdays, because I’m commuting then.

Like yeah, sure, I would understand if you were coming from a place of “oh, T3 showed up as there is a wagon on him, that’s scummy timing.” But instead you’re saying it’s

curious

timing. This suggests you’re trying to avoid explicitly shading me.

I thought I

was

explicitly shading you, when have you last seen "curious" used in a non-shadey context? And you didn't mention it in any game I remember playing with you, so I'm sorry for that.

[KittyTacky]

Like yeah, sure, I would understand if you were coming from a place of “oh, T3 showed up as there is a wagon on him, that’s scummy timing.” But instead you’re saying it’s

curious

timing. This suggests you’re trying to avoid explicitly shading me.

WHY TITUS TOWN THOUGH?

This question evasion is sus amogus.

[SCRRRDBEAR]

I PREFER TO HAMMER KITTY OVER T3

i think id rather kill t3

ARE WE TRUE OPPOSITES?

i mean i dont like how much of a fuss he's been making about catching up and then posts a completely unexplained readlist

GOOD POINT. I AM ALSO WONDERING IF KITTYTACKY WOULD HAVE BURNED OUT BY NOW IF THIS WERE ALL SCUM POSTING.

VOTE: DATISI

I WILL LOOK AT T3 AND KITTYTACKY AGAIN ONCE I'M LESS TIRED.

[KittyTacky]

I defend myself to the last breath as town.

[Datisi]

ok i see what i actually want to ask here:

kitty, why do you think that alisae's reasoning is bad? what makes you think it's scum latching on and that it can't come from town? because both the reasons that catboi lined out it 2119 are something that i strongly agree with makes you look suspicious, despite your excuses for them

I explained my reasons in the very post I quoted. Why is it so inconcievable that someone who's never played with even a lenient post restriction would be anxious about it? Yes it is irrational but people aren't robots. I got over it anyways, with some difficulty. As for the latter, idk why people see me simply sheeping something as opportunistic. Just because I had little to add?

that's not my question

i am asking whether you think alisae's thoughts can or can't come from town

because i agree with them and you think i'm town

but you think alisae is scummy for them

so what is it

[Cephrir]

Titus was somewhat accurate though? The votecount was not at 2, but T3 was not at 5 votes and Bell was the shifting vote not me. How else would you have preferred for me to frame that to not be dodgy given the accuracy of my statement?

I think it's dodgy that you didn't just own up to being wrong, or tried to word it in such a way as to deemphasize that

[Cephrir]

How does point 1 address what I asked instead of just deflect? Where is the larger post that addresses what was being talked about.

It doesn't but I thought point 2 did, even though it was incorrect, so I felt taking point 1 to task about it was taking it out of context unfairly

[Cephrir]

It's strange that people started saying I sound like I don't want to be here when I in fact just started getting into the game and trying

[fireisredsir]

I didn't accuse people of being opportunistic in those games because I did not see opportunism; I just saw misguided townies. And I don't counterpush people I just think are wrong town. So this isn't a tell, this is just me acting under different circumstances.

yea i mean thats my point. it seems like you are much more likely as town to see the people pushing you as misguided townies

you're acting under different circumstances, and one of those circumstances is your alignment

[Cephrir]

Would love to hear other thoughts on the Titus/PP exchange from people smarter than me. It really jumps out to me as important

[Dannflor]

Would love to hear other thoughts on the Titus/PP exchange from people smarter than me. It really jumps out to me as important

Why

I don't think it's impossible to be TvT

[Cephrir]

Why what? I felt like there was scum in it, my giving a shit ometer was activated

[PenguinPower]

Titus was somewhat accurate though? The votecount was not at 2, but T3 was not at 5 votes and Bell was the shifting vote not me. How else would you have preferred for me to frame that to not be dodgy given the accuracy of my statement?

I think it's dodgy that you didn't just own up to being wrong, or tried to word it in such a way as to deemphasize that

Sure sure - that's why I posted the entire vote chain leading up to it. I'm certainly trying to hide that I was wrong on the votecount.

[PenguinPower]

How does point 1 address what I asked instead of just deflect? Where is the larger post that addresses what was being talked about.

It doesn't but I thought point 2 did, even though it was incorrect, so I felt taking point 1 to task about it was taking it out of context unfairly

N....no point 2 did not?

wut?

[Dannflor]

Why what? I felt like there was scum in it, my giving a shit ometer was activated

I mean why does it jump out to you as important

what makes you feel there has to be scum in there

neither Titus nor Penguin particularly strike me as the type to get into shit fights as scum

[fireisredsir]

It's strange that people started saying I sound like I don't want to be here when I in fact just started getting into the game and trying

yea it was sort of the opposite for me actually

earlier i just kinda had a vague nullscumlean bc you didn't seem towny. but that can happen if you're town and just not really feeling into the game

but 2173 really reminded me of lake melancholy where you would sometimes like, do those quote analysis walls where you point out responses to things but then overall it doesn't really go anywhere and while you're doing it you sort of have this energy of like your heart isn't really in it

it just kinda feels like you felt obligated to try but you're just kinda like limply waving yourself in the general direction of stuff thats happening

and i thought the way you handled it live was kind of weird and felt like it was phrased in a way to encourage both sides but not really wanting to take one

so when i asked you to take a stance your response of doing the post by post analysis but still not really taking a side felt weird and appease-y to me rather than something that came from a place of natural thought

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: Kitty

Kitty out of curiosity did you always list your location in your profile? I don't remember seeing it before.

[fireisredsir]

and like if you're town then i feel kinda bad for dumping on your attempt to get engaged in the game but like i feel like there's a disconnect between you saying that you really feel its important and the way that you handled it

like that feeling of importance has to come from somewhere

[Cephrir]

Titus was somewhat accurate though? The votecount was not at 2, but T3 was not at 5 votes and Bell was the shifting vote not me. How else would you have preferred for me to frame that to not be dodgy given the accuracy of my statement?

I think it's dodgy that you didn't just own up to being wrong, or tried to word it in such a way as to deemphasize that

Sure sure - that's why I posted the entire vote chain leading up to it. I'm certainly trying to hide that I was wrong on the votecount.

Why what? I felt like there was scum in it, my giving a shit ometer was activated

I mean why does it jump out to you as important

what makes you feel there has to be scum in there

neither Titus nor Penguin particularly strike me as the type to get into shit fights as scum

I didn't say has to be, but it felt that way. Not the content of the argument so much as both of their tactics felt shady to me.

[fireisredsir]

its also just something i like to do as scum, if i see a moment of interaction where i can tell the energy feels off somehow is just fixate on that moment and try to work out the different angles of who could i could push as scum as a result of it

whereas i think town is more likely to have something specific that triggered their interest and have a worldview that they build around the situation. it still feels to me like you're just trying to poke holes in whichever side you can

[Cephrir]

It's strange that people started saying I sound like I don't want to be here when I in fact just started getting into the game and trying

yea it was sort of the opposite for me actually

earlier i just kinda had a vague nullscumlean bc you didn't seem towny. but that can happen if you're town and just not really feeling into the game

but 2173 really reminded me of lake melancholy where you would sometimes like, do those quote analysis walls where you point out responses to things but then overall it doesn't really go anywhere and while you're doing it you sort of have this energy of like your heart isn't really in it

it just kinda feels like you felt obligated to try but you're just kinda like limply waving yourself in the general direction of stuff thats happening

and i thought the way you handled it live was kind of weird and felt like it was phrased in a way to encourage both sides but not really wanting to take one

so when i asked you to take a stance your response of doing the post by post analysis but still not really taking a side felt weird and appease-y to me rather than something that came from a place of natural thought

and like if you're town then i feel kinda bad for dumping on your attempt to get engaged in the game but like i feel like there's a disconnect between you saying that you really feel its important and the way that you handled it

like that feeling of importance has to come from somewhere

I was trying to sort out my own thoughts in real time by posting lukewarm half baked thoughts

It didn't really end up helping but I'm not one to hide my thought process even if said process isn't going to look particularly good

[Dannflor]

It shouldn't. PP is 100% scum here.

bullshit

oh you know what

I just reread PP vs. Titus

it kinda feels like scum theatre