Warrior Cats Mafia [Day Three]

[Dannflor]

the way it climaxes and the way both parties end up feeling so overconfident on the other

idk I agree it does feel a little off but mostly because it feels overaggressive on both sides

[fireisredsir]

like for me the way i read the situation is that it feels like penguin jumping on someone who he feels like is pushing him with weak/fallacious reasoning, and there's a kinda indignation behind that, in a way that i think fits with what i would expect from town penguin

titus i think is scummier bc it felt like she did a little bit of her lawyery moves where she slightly dodges the point after making a bad one and makes it about something else, and that plus the "penguin is 100% scum here" really reminded me of how she argued as scum in datisi's cafe

[PenguinPower]

It shouldn't. PP is 100% scum here.

bullshit

oh you know what

I just reread PP vs. Titus

it kinda feels like scum theatre

great, then help me yeet my buddy

[Cephrir]

I guess I don't have that much to say about this. Usually I object to the idea that I would play a terrible scum game but after lake melancholy I don't really have a leg to stand on with that

[Dannflor]

fire I like your process on Cephrir but he's posting a lot like I do when I'm struggling to get into the game. I guess that won't be convincing to anyone but me

but the reach outs he's doing do feel more motivated by trying to get something to sink his teeth into

not necessarily get town read or anything like that

[Dannflor]

like for me the way i read the situation is that it feels like penguin jumping on someone who he feels like is pushing him with weak/fallacious reasoning, and there's a kinda indignation behind that, in a way that i think fits with what i would expect from town penguin

titus i think is scummier bc it felt like she did a little bit of her lawyery moves where she slightly dodges the point after making a bad one and makes it about something else, and that plus the "penguin is 100% scum here" really reminded me of how she argued as scum in datisi's cafe

yeah I would agree the "Penguin is 100% scum here" is definitely the worst post of that whole exchange

probably this is a better read

[fireisredsir]

ok yea thats fair, i don't mind giving it time, there's a lot of people i think are scummy rn tbh

which thank god, always prefer that to the opposite

[fireisredsir]

not necessarily get town read or anything like that

the reason i felt it was to get townread was bc it came after i kinda specifically called him out on his initial engagement with it, so it felt like he was like trying to damage control that or something

[Dannflor]

that's fair. there were a few things that town pinged me about Cephrir's disengagement on D1 and it's possible I shouldn't be holding on to that. I do think it's more likely that town is so, uh, obvious about trying to "please" people. I don't know if Cephrir scum would be particularly bothered by you calling him out. I could be wrong on that though

what's your read on mistyx, fire

[fireisredsir]

im not feeling it quite as much as i was earlier (maybe just bc she hasnt really been here that much lately and out of sight out of mind and that should actually be more of a reason to be suspicious lol) but still think she's more on the scummy side

i think it was more that i lost my townread on her than me and so the delta felt significant rather than actually having any specific reasons to think she's scum

[fireisredsir]

also this is off topic but i kinda want to hear more people's thoughts on this and i don't think there's much point in hiding it so

i have info about scum roles

pregame, scum were able to choose two of their own roles to swap amongst themselves. they also were able to choose one role to activate

[Dannflor]

im not feeling it quite as much as i was earlier (maybe just bc she hasnt really been here that much lately and out of sight out of mind and that should actually be more of a reason to be suspicious lol) but still think she's more on the scummy side

i think it was more that i lost my townread on her than me and so the delta felt significant rather than actually having any specific reasons to think she's scum

cool cool cool

I don't really have anything else to say but I agree and I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy

I should probably spend the time to develop a more thorough read but that's been the biggest gut feeling I've had today

[Dannflor]

meaning any other scum roles start as dormant? I wonder if the warrior's ceremony is the only other mechanism to activate them or if they get their own mechanism

[fireisredsir]

i don't know that for certain but i think that's the implication yea

[fireisredsir]

the only additional clarification i was able to get is that the swap means the entire rolecard, so that would include clans

[Something_Smart]

Oh that explains why the PT wasn't open until game start.

It also explains why the game had a fixed start time and why Ydrasse wouldn't tell me if the scum PT opened at the same time as the hoods.

[Bell]

I’ve never seen Titus use a lawyerly in a mafia game except arguing that it’s out of the courts jurisdiction because she’s from the moon.

[Alisae]

also this is off topic but i kinda want to hear more people's thoughts on this and i don't think there's much point in hiding it so

i have info about scum roles

pregame, scum were able to choose two of their own roles to swap amongst themselves. they also were able to choose one role to activate

I’m confused did u have this info at d1 and if so why not say so?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I shept a case that made sense to me and continues to.

A case that made sense to nobody else and that Mastina themselves admitted wouldn't make sense to anyone other than her.
So why did you somehow "get it"?

I believe Mastina when she said that you interact with scumbuddies the way you talked to certain people D1 and also I remember you in Baseball very well.

When i talked to who?
Also i looked up Baseball and i didn't even remember playing in that game until looking it up lmao.

Alisae. And I have a great memory for things like people's playstyle in games.

Did not you pay attention to the fact that both Val and Shiro said that you'd be stupid to think i'm partnered with Alisae.
Unless you think we are somehow all 4 scum in the same hood. Some of us are telling the truth about the fact that it is pretty darn unlikely me and Alisae are partnered here.
So your "i am talking to Alisae in a partnered way" is kinda bollocks reasoning. Got any more? Also i'd like to understand what exactly it is you read as "partnered" too.

[NorwegianboyEE]

also this is off topic but i kinda want to hear more people's thoughts on this and i don't think there's much point in hiding it so

i have info about scum roles

pregame, scum were able to choose two of their own roles to swap amongst themselves. they also were able to choose one role to activate

Do you know anything about these roles or is that all you know?

[NorwegianboyEE]

the only additional clarification i was able to get is that the swap means the entire rolecard, so that would include clans

So scum had some level of choice in the PT they could be in? That's some pretty game-changing info. I was under the impression all hoods were decided by host and element of random.
What exactly does this mean? Could all scum decide which players to be in which hood or what?

[fireisredsir]

thats the extent of the info i have.

they get to swap 2 of their own roles, basically just switch the places of two scum players. idk how you would think they could alter town roles???

[fireisredsir]

is it dumb of me to think that was an attempted dumbtell cause idk how anyone could possibly genuinely think that was a possibility if they thought about it for more than 2 seconds

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wrote it bad, what i meant to say was some variation of "could all scum players effectively select the hood they wanted to be in while the town slots were already pre-selected into hoods"

[fireisredsir]

ok yea i just figured that out lol my bad

the way its phrased implies there was only the possibility for one swap