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Post Post #2575 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:38 am

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In post 2574, Yume wrote:
In post 2573, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 2572, Yume wrote:
In post 2568, T-Bone wrote:Just answer me this Yume. How can I, T-Bone, in this game, be informed that Mastina is scum?
If you're not informed, then lay off the 100 % certainty that she is scum. That goes for all of you.
Doesn't the inverse apply to you?

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I said repeatedly that I will let go of it if my check is allowed to go through and doesn't give me the expected result.
A check alone isn't persuasive. You could check anyone and it looks to some as if you just want mastina to live for a day as partners. I don't think that's the case, but I could easily see someone reaching that conclusion and digging in deeper.

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Post Post #2576 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:41 am

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In post 2575, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 2574, Yume wrote:
In post 2573, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 2572, Yume wrote:
In post 2568, T-Bone wrote:Just answer me this Yume. How can I, T-Bone, in this game, be informed that Mastina is scum?
If you're not informed, then lay off the 100 % certainty that she is scum. That goes for all of you.
Doesn't the inverse apply to you?

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I said repeatedly that I will let go of it if my check is allowed to go through and doesn't give me the expected result.
A check alone isn't persuasive. You could check anyone and it looks to some as if you just want mastina to live for a day as partners. I don't think that's the case, but I could easily see someone reaching that conclusion and digging in deeper.

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And what would that accomplish? If I check mastina, and say she is town, and she flips scum, our scumteam would lose two members instead of one.
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Post Post #2577 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:59 am

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Whoops! I was roleblocked.

Or

A cop wouldn't lie...lives for days...

Like the argument is there. We need to find more, but I don't understand any of the mastina is scum arguments beyond she's defensive.

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Post Post #2578 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:59 am

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Well, I might as well say it, then. I sell prunes. That's the true nature of my check. It's also why it won't work in multiball.
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Post Post #2579 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:02 am

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In post 2578, Yume wrote:Well, I might as well say it, then. I sell prunes. That's the true nature of my check. It's also why it won't work in multiball.
.....this is confirmed multiball.

You've been demanding a check you know won't work?

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Post Post #2580 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:03 am

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In post 2579, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 2578, Yume wrote:Well, I might as well say it, then. I sell prunes. That's the true nature of my check. It's also why it won't work in multiball.
.....this is confirmed multiball.

You've been demanding a check you know won't work?

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Post Post #2581 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:06 am

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And I changed my mind. I am not willing to perform it anymore. I just want this to end, and I will end it, one way or another. Even if it means limming my own townread.
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Post Post #2582 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:33 am

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In post 2577, Past Present Future wrote:Whoops! I was roleblocked.

Or

A cop wouldn't lie...lives for days...

Like the argument is there. We need to find more, but I don't understand any of the mastina is scum arguments beyond she's defensive.

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I've looked into your disposition towards mastina and why you believe she's town for her idiosyncrasies. However, I don't believe them to keep her away from scrutiny. You could even say that she's playing them up to a greater effect. If you're reading her recent posts-- what do you exactly think of them? I asked this question earlier but why are the people who are townreading mastina not applying themselves to understand/work with her.
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Post Post #2583 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:37 am

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In post 2538, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:Do you mean bunny? I'm more certain they are scum than klick is. I think that day one has just gone on a long time and we're almost happy to go for any flip. I have more toenreads than scum reads, is the issue.

Are we nuts about a arsonist recruiter? It feels like a cool mech.

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Are you two not synced up together or something

If so, then how did your reads come to be? My impression from your post is that you were
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Post Post #2584 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:06 am

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In post 2569, T-Bone wrote:
In post 2566, Ydrasse wrote:(shakes violently) i have to wait for a claim
Mastina said she won't because she wants to punish us or something

(But you should wait anyway in case she changes her mind)
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Post Post #2585 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:06 am

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Can't wait for every townie just going "nah i punishing you for misreading me"

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Post Post #2586 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 4:25 am

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In post 2555, T-Bone wrote:Plus again you're not even speaking to the reality of the game. I am the only one scumreading you. Who are all these people scumreading you that you need to shut up?

Frustratingly it seems everyone else thinks that when you are scummy it's a town tell for you so good job I guess? Sorry, I believe everyone plays to the best of their ability and can't town read bad posts just because "that's the way they post". You're certainly smart enough to play into other players' perception of how you play, yeah?
It’s more that if Yume is scum she’s playing a suboptimal strategy here with the check. If she’s scum it’s unlikely to be with Mastina. Meaning I think she’s a bad elim for today.

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Post Post #2587 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:05 am

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In post 2540, furtiveglance wrote:Did Mastina ever follow up on that "I'm a similar role to MathBlade?"
Yea she replied to me asking what her role is by quoting a huge wall of text (mostly complaining) and said read this post if you want to figure out what my role is. I don't know how to read esoteric crumbs so I ignored it.

@PPF I don't really care about convincing you i'm town, I would rather kill you. People who know already know. You've been biased against me from the start and I think it came from a place of insecurity about being caught, since I didn't even mention you by name.
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Good move to try to stay alive, simply keep running down the infinite deadline and wait for more people to claw at another bad wagon. The sum of mastina's actions are not town and I do not care about self-centered metaposting.
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Post Post #2588 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:12 am

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In post 2572, Yume wrote:
In post 2568, T-Bone wrote:Just answer me this Yume. How can I, T-Bone, in this game, be informed that Mastina is scum?
If you're not informed, then lay off the 100 % certainty that she is scum. That goes for all of you.
You're the only one throwing out 100% certaincy.

You didn't answer my question either. Why did you say that I must be informed she is scum because I scumread her?
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Post Post #2589 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:24 am

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In post 2588, T-Bone wrote:
In post 2572, Yume wrote:
In post 2568, T-Bone wrote:Just answer me this Yume. How can I, T-Bone, in this game, be informed that Mastina is scum?
If you're not informed, then lay off the 100 % certainty that she is scum. That goes for all of you.
You're the only one throwing out 100% certaincy.

You didn't answer my question either. Why did you say that I must be informed she is scum because I scumread her?
Because if you weren't informed, you would reconsider, obviously.
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Post Post #2590 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:34 am

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But if I'm informed...then I am informed she is scum because we're on the same team. That is 100% the only way I can know her alignment in this game. So you should be voting for her and then when she flips scum try to lim me tomorrow.
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Post Post #2591 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:39 am

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In post 2582, unwnd wrote:I've looked into your disposition towards mastina and why you believe she's town for her idiosyncrasies. However, I don't believe them to keep her away from scrutiny. You could even say that she's playing them up to a greater effect. If you're reading her recent posts-- what do you exactly think of them? I asked this question earlier but why are the people who are townreading mastina not applying themselves to understand/work with her.
I don't agree with your perception of what's happening re: mastina. I do feel there's weirdness around her but I don't feel there's a lack of intent to work with her. The amount of counters suggest this. How do you feel people are not working with her?

If your theory is right, then the only logical conclusion is town think she's wrong and scum are avoiding her wagon because she provides value. Do you agree?

Also Scarfman seems particularly annoyed/aggressive and claiming I somehow overreacted to something which is ??? He's claiming some sort of bias when it's OMGUS against Nancy head. Got no idea how to read that.

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Post Post #2592 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:39 am

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In post 2590, T-Bone wrote:But if I'm informed...then I am informed she is scum because we're on the same team. That is 100% the only way I can know her alignment in this game. So you should be voting for her and then when she flips scum try to lim me tomorrow.
Or maybe the other way around, because if that were the case, you'd just kill me when she flips scum, or she'd kill me if you flipped scum. Either way, I'll be that and thus unable to lim you tomorrow, even if she flips scum.
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Post Post #2593 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:45 am

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You see, I've played that game before. Scum asks me to spare them today and then push them the next day, and then kill me before that next day comes.
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Post Post #2594 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:53 am

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In post 2555, T-Bone wrote:Plus again you're not even speaking to the reality of the game. I am the only one scumreading you. Who are all these people scumreading you that you need to shut up?

Frustratingly it seems everyone else thinks that when you are scummy it's a town tell for you so good job I guess? Sorry, I believe everyone plays to the best of their ability and can't town read bad posts just because "that's the way they post". You're certainly smart enough to play into other players' perception of how you play, yeah?
You keep making a number of posts that I'd consider bad posts, but I think it's town indicative for you
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Post Post #2595 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:54 am

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In post 2587, Scarfmanship wrote:
In post 2540, furtiveglance wrote:Did Mastina ever follow up on that "I'm a similar role to MathBlade?"
Yea she replied to me asking what her role is by quoting a huge wall of text (mostly complaining) and said read this post if you want to figure out what my role is. I don't know how to read esoteric crumbs so I ignored it.

@PPF I don't really care about convincing you i'm town, I would rather kill you. People who know already know. You've been biased against me from the start and I think it came from a place of insecurity about being caught, since I didn't even mention you by name.
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(But you should wait anyway in case she changes her mind)
Good move to try to stay alive, simply keep running down the infinite deadline and wait for more people to claw at another bad wagon. The sum of mastina's actions are not town and I do not care about self-centered metaposting.
No, I think you first wanted to vote me because I have 3 words in my username then you misrepped my being justifiably suspicious of you by suggesting that I was somehow “insulted” by that. Like why tf would I take that as an insult?

So that scumpinged me on you right out of the gate and your recent posts have just made that even stronger. Then you were sitting on RR while wanting to kill Mastina, then switched to her wagon, then said you wanted to kill all RR voters, including those who unvoted after claim. How does any of that make an iota of sense?

And jsyk, none of this has made me want to unvote, quite the contrary in fact.
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Post Post #2596 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:00 am

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Nope, I never mentioned you, I just said one of the three word hydras.
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Post Post #2597 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:03 am

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In post 2596, Scarfmanship wrote:Nope, I never mentioned you, I just said one of the three word hydras.
There’s only two because MMR is three letters, so why wouldn’t I find that scummy? I’m not stupid, don’t even try to bs me with that. I think as long as I’m alive in this game, I’m going to keep voting you.
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Post Post #2598 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:04 am

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MMR didn't have the same reaction, why is that?
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Post Post #2599 (ISO) » Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:05 am

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DDS didn't care either...
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