Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[Bunnyonce]

Last thoughts:
As I've been saying on and on, I haven't really felt able to sink my teeth into this game. I don't really feel strongly about almost any of my reads.

But, here you go. You never know that this might be useful.

Radical Rat

- I feel ??? about this slot. I think the claim of "burn" seems believable from a flavour standpoint but I agree with G it is not necessarily a Town claim. I kind of agree with a lot of things they say, but don't think they've really proved themselves. Greeting has wavered a bit - at timed told me they think RR is a deepwolf, at times said the slot could go either way.

Mastina

- Halfhearted townread for me. Basically what RR said - Math seems town and seems to believe that mastina must be Town. I've made various moaning noises to Greeting at various points about being suspicious of mastina, but he's always been adamant he thinks mastina is Town. He thinks that mastina town-sorting MB is a particularly good sign.

professotic

- ???. Read on us is pretty bad, but some of the stuff they post seems random in a towny way. Greeting has alsofelt a bit ambivalent about this slot.

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

- Vague gut townlean but not really sure here. I don't think Greeting has said much, but I don't think he TRs them.

Scarf

- Not sure, but I don't really see this slot as very towny and Greeting also thinks it's a bit sus.

Past Present Future

- Greeting and I have actually both been a bit pinged by this slot and thought that they may be scum.

Yume

- I think this is Town, Greeting agrees. I just read the emotion as Town.

Enchant

- Seems towny, but not sure I'm the best Enchant reader. I think Greeting actually scumreads them.

Bunnyonce

- Did you know we wanted to call the hydra Bunnyoncé with the é?

MMR

- I have a townlean, but Greeting seemed sceptical when I explained why last night. I think he thinks their posting so far is still within the heads' scumrange.

Frozen Angel

- Greeting thinks she is in her Town meta. I don't know, mastina saying she is scum has gotten into my head.

Maid Cafe

- Maybe scumlean? I think Greeting also isn't terribly impressed, says only thing keeping this from being a complete scumread is the annoyance in this post: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13537778

Mathblade

- We both think this is Town. This is one of my higher certainty reads.

furtiveglance

- We both think this is Town. This is one of my higher certainty reads.

Ydra

- ??? I guess possibly Town if mastina is right about STD's meta, but I haven't checked. This slot is in Greeting's poe.

T-Bone

- ??? I think Greeting and I both don't really know what to make of this.

unwnd

- ??? Greeting and I haven't really spoken about this.

Can I have like 5 more minutes to reread our hydra chat again and make sure I'm not horribly misrepresenting Greeting on some read?

-Aisa

[Radical Rat]

Do what you have to, I won't hammer until you're finished

And if anyone does, they're scumclaiming.

[Bunnyonce]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13538111
Greeting says this post by Scarf is 100% fakeable because it says little, but enough so you can't say it is a completely empty post. He said that he would have supported a Scarf wagon if the chance came up again.

I said (when I was wiser, lol) that I was worried about FA being scum because she kept insisting that mastina explain her scumread when it seemed clear it wasn't going to happen. Greeting is very sure FA was enacting her Town meta.

This is Greeting's PoE as of Saturday (i.e. he townreads the slots not listed)
1 Radical Rat
3 professotic
4 Dingle Dangle Scarecrow
5 Child of Fairies
6 Past Present Future
7 Yume
8 Enchant
10 MMR
12 Maid Cafe
15 Ydrasse
16 T-Bone
17 radja

I think this is pretty good except I would leave FA in there.

[Bunnyonce]

Listen Enchant's posts are bad but they're like, consistently bad.
So not voting there tbh

Greeting says this post is super bad.

Do what you have to, I won't hammer until you're finished

And if anyone does, they're scumclaiming.

Aww <3

I'm ready. I think I've summarised all of Greeting's thoughts that I know of that are recent enough to be worth talking about.

[Bunnyonce]

I think Greeting has also just been a bit tired and hasn't been able to fully get into the game.

-Aisa
all of these posts are me, in case it wasn't obvious, lol.

[Radical Rat]

Very well.

Then let the last vestiges of this endless sunset finally fade, as we embrace the coming peace of darkness.

VOTE: Bunnyonce

[Bunnyonce]

Best of luck!!

I feel like this game hasn't really been up to my standards for myself, but I also think I've tried to do the best I could with the energy I had, so very well.

-Aisa

[unwnd]

I am ambivalent to this elimination as a whole

[Bunnyonce]

The day did need to end, we gave Meg an elimination as a birthday gift, and I am looking forward to spamming the dead thread, so not all is gloom.
-Aisa

[furtiveglance]

I find it worth noting in general the hard defenders of Mastina (minus Yume) now are saying she’s sus when bunny is wagoned.

Will compile a list when I get time. Rough day.

If Bunny is scum partners likely in those people.
If Bunny is town then on Mastina on Bunny is where I would focus

I don't want to run up Mastina again (on account of the claim). I'm just saying that this Bunnyonce wagon is sus.

Then it’s your responsibility to push someone else.

Man's voting Ydrasse and has stated scumreads many times. What else do you want from man. D_D

[furtiveglance]

Man didn't realise that was hammer. Man's re-evaluating man's unwnd townread.

[unwnd]

What a troublesome post

[furtiveglance]

I am ambivalent to this elimination as a whole

What a troublesome post

Yeah it was

[unwnd]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

[Ydrasse]

everyone wishes they could be this whimsical in game

[furtiveglance]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

I think Bunnyonce flips town, you obviously think so too, and you're ambivalent. That's just dodgy

[professotic]

Listen Enchant's posts are bad but they're like, consistently bad.
So not voting there tbh

Greeting says this post is super bad.

Do what you have to, I won't hammer until you're finished

And if anyone does, they're scumclaiming.

Aww <3

I'm ready. I think I've summarised all of Greeting's thoughts that I know of that are recent enough to be worth talking about.

I think I’m starting to lose my Maid Cafe Town Read.
I don’t remember why I town read them I just know I did with good certainty but clearly not enough for me to remember, I’d probably have to go back to find the initial reason.

[Bunnyonce]

Spoiler:

My own rule of thumb is that highposting bodes well for more townies barring a highposter having some sort of value beyond just well, posting

I understand this take is without context, but you play enough of these games and you start to notice patterns. Does anyone believe that the notated users have any scum equity? Open question

professotic, Past Present Future, and Yume are all in my scum pool.

Are these players independently scummy or do you think this could comprise a scumteam? The only time I think a scumteam high posts is if they're comfortable enough to do it with another. It can be awkward if you don't know your teammates too well to properly have filler conversation

I think PPF and Yume are potential partners for mastina, and professotic is potentially on the other scumteam.

Can you expand this thought for me in shortform/longform

Whichever you prefer

I don't think this needs explaining, but it's not accurate and I'm struggling to believe RR has these reads as town. These 3 players seem to be 'aligned' based on saying the similar things and defending each other. But individually they're quite towny. Yume in particular, different to when I've seen them as mafia. Mastina seems to have that kind of ego/paranoia they always have. And PPF - can't remember who said it but all 3 heads in town meta. Idk Auro too well but agree on the other 2. So tldr is bad reads from RR, not because they don't make sense but bc they do on a surface level.

It happened only a page ago but I believe you scoffed(?) a bit at me 'trying to clear 5 people as town' but have 3/5 of them as that anyways

I wasn't scoffing, I admire the ambition and I think you're town for it.

FWIW I thought there was something to this idea, although this is my first exposure to unwnd, so don't know if they might be this gutsy as scum.

Also, tomorrow someone might be tempted to wonder why the wagon on this slot passed through while other wagons didn't. I can't pretend to know the full answer, but don't forget that the other slots that were run up (RR/mastina) claimed a PR.

-A

[professotic]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

I think Bunnyonce flips town, you obviously think so too, and you're ambivalent. That's just dodgy

Let me ask you something Furtive.

How do you plan to go about and solve this game compared to your last one in “One Choice”?

[professotic]

Like are you going about it differently?
If that’s the case, how so?

[furtiveglance]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

I think Bunnyonce flips town, you obviously think so too, and you're ambivalent. That's just dodgy

Let me ask you something Furtive.

How do you plan to go about and solve this game compared to your last one in “One Choice”?

Different setup, different game, different me. Stop using one bad game as a stick to beat me with, you are not a 'high-tier player' you are a clown as shown by LOST.

[furtiveglance]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

I think Bunnyonce flips town, you obviously think so too, and you're ambivalent. That's just dodgy

Let me ask you something Furtive.

How do you plan to go about and solve this game compared to your last one in “One Choice”?

Different setup, different game, different me. Stop using one bad game as a stick to beat me with, you are not a 'high-tier player' you are a clown as shown by LOST.

Retract insulting language, pls don't ban me!

[Bunnyonce]

This is furtive townposting (in my humble opinion). If it is true that he played differently as third party in Datisi's Café, this also helps validate this read of mine / reassure me that it is still valid in multiball.

-Aisa

[unwnd]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

I think Bunnyonce flips town, you obviously think so too, and you're ambivalent. That's just dodgy

I have no dedication to this either way therefore ambivalence. I also am probably not getting that mastina response I wanted

[professotic]

Speak more directly about what you're exactly trying to imply, your post annoyed me because you didn't give a reason

I think Bunnyonce flips town, you obviously think so too, and you're ambivalent. That's just dodgy

Let me ask you something Furtive.

How do you plan to go about and solve this game compared to your last one in “One Choice”?

Different setup, different game, different me. Stop using one bad game as a stick to beat me with, you are not a 'high-tier player' you are a clown as shown by LOST.

I am no clown it’s just I go about things differently then others.