Warrior Cats Mafia [Day Three]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also, I can’t recall if it’s in the rules. But no betting in game amongst players.

I'll bet you that's wrong.

[catboi]

VOTE: charloux

[Titus]

Also, I can’t recall if it’s in the rules. But no betting in game amongst players.

I took the bet as a joke.

Accepting and doing is a trust tell.

[Cephrir]

Every time my feet start getting cold KT posts again and I remember why my vote feels so comfy.

There are a lot of players I'd like to vote for tho.

Pedit we are not voting charloux stop it.

[catboi]

Every time my feet start getting cold KT posts again and I remember why my vote feels so comfy.

There are a lot of players I'd like to vote for tho.

Pedit we are not voting charloux stop it.

I too enjoy not voting players who make horrible posts

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: alisae

im down

[Charloux]

Because T3 is objectively scummy while Alisae is objectively most informative.
Comparing these two i'd bet my money on T3 flipping scum, but Alisae is a great source of information while also being a great potential scum slot.
T3 flip on the other hand gives us... what exactly?

What is alisae's flip supposed to be "informative" about, exactly?

and why would you not want to flip the player who you would "bet your money" on flipping scum? Isn't a player flipping scum the most informative thing possible?

That's assuming i have complete confidence in my reads and T3 will flip scum without a doubt. What information does a T3 flip bring us then?
Alisae has a lower chance of flipping scum than T3 imo, but it's still a considerate rate. And if you read the game you would know how much stuff she put herself head first into. Why do you think that won't bring us any information?
Are you going to push for a kitty execution tomorrow if T3 flips town? Who next then, Shiro's slot maybe?

[fireisredsir]

i feel similarly to charloux here so i don't really get what catboi thinks is so bad about the post

[Titus]

VOTE: alisae

im down

Why?

I see significant talk about Alisae in your posts but I get no idea of solid reads. Just text that makes my eyes glaze over.

[Cephrir]

i hope shiro's slot issues a clarification soon because god marashu is so scummy

[Charloux]

The thing i wanted from my vote on T3 were some reads and if none provided a role claim for the record. It's a decent flip if no alternates are found

[SCRRRDBEAR]

saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

okay need to take a break

I'll try to rewrite it this afternoon

VOTE: fireisredsir

I no longer think mistyx is scum

DANNFLOR I'M ALL EARS AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO SHEEP YOUR READ I NEED TO FEEL LIKE YOU'VE OBSERVED SOMETHING ABOUT FIRE WHICH CAN'T BE EXPLAINED AWAY AS A SCUMMY TOWN GAME.

I GUESS NORWEE COULD BE MORE RELUCTANT TO CHALLENGE ALISAE BECAUSE OF THEIR ANGST, SO THEY ARE FOCUSING ON YOU? I'M NOT SURE.

I missed where Alisae said during the D1 T3 flashwagon attempt that they thought T3 was scum-in-the-hood because they also TR everyone else. My bad.

To answer your question about the current dynamics in a bit more detail: Norwee thinks there is one scum in Windclan (as does Alisae), and it is most likely T3 because they are TRing everyone else. I am inclined to agree there is at most one, because I can't make pairings in there make sense - I remain confident it isn't Norwee/Alisae; Shiro+{T3, Alisae} is possible, but unlikely - I have Shiro in my 'treat as town' bucket, and T3/Alisae seems unlikely too. This is ignoring Titus given she chose to join Windclan.

I'm TRing Norwee, although when thinking about it, I am only really doing so because I don't think the two are S/S, and I think it's Alisae, plus (apart from having exactly 5 scum reads on his association exercise matching scumreads he had already disclosed, and having everyone else town - which I thought would be a co-incidence if you were truly doing it off the cuff, but certainly possible) I hadn't seen anything to really ping me scummy there, and there is a decent amount of activity in clan, if not main thread, for me to think I would have seen something - it's not like he's lurking.

T3 isn't posting. Norwee thinks a T3 flip will be informative, but when questioned it basically boiled down to if they flipped town, he would have to re-consider who was scum in Windclan - which is fine, I guess, looking through a Norwee lens, but it doesn't help me because I already think if we do have scum, it's Alisae, not T3. A scum!T3 would be +town for Alisae in my eyes, though, so if that flips happens, and it's a mislim and that forces Norwee to re-eval, fine; and if it's not and I need rethink Alisae, then that's not the end of the world either given T3 isn't really doing much to help anyone at this point.

THAT'S INCREDIBLY HELPFUL, THANK YOU. WAS THE ASSOCIATION EXERCISE DONE IN MAIN-THREAD? I DON'T REMEMBER READING THAT.

THAT'S NOT MY MAIN FOLLOW UP QUESTION(S) THOUGH: WHY ARE YOU TREATING SHIRO AS TOWN (JUST THE CLAIM?) AND WHY AREN'T YOU INTERESTED IN ASSOCIATIVES WITH TITUS? THE FACT THAT TITUS CHOSE WIND CLAN AND WON'T TALK ABOUT WHY MAKES ME THE MOST INTERESTED IN ASSOCIATIVES WITH HER.

MY MAIN ISSUE WITH T3 AS A CHOICE IS THAT I DON'T THINK THEIR PLAY MAKES MUCH SENSE AS TOWN OR SCUM AND NO ONE TOOK UP THE GAUNTLET TO ADDRESS THE CRITICISM I PUT FORWARD IN 2324 (FOR EXAMPLE, T3 CAN HIGH POST AS SCUM.) THEY SEEM TO HAVE PROGRESSED TO THE BURN OUT STAGE SO QUICKLY THAT I ONLY FEEL OKAY WITH ELIMINATING THEM INSTEAD OF GREAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO HAVE NAI POTENTIAL.

[Titus]

i hope shiro's slot issues a clarification soon because god marashu is so scummy

True, but I don't see scum!shiro linking to scum!marashu like that unless scum!marashu's role was so vital they'd lose the game without it

[SCRRRDBEAR]

Let’s kill Kitty.

Also, I can’t recall if it’s in the rules. But no betting in game amongst players.

WHY DID YOU IGNORE MY QUESTION?

[catboi]

That's assuming i have complete confidence in my reads and T3 will flip scum without a doubt. What information does a T3 flip bring us then?

you literally said you'd bet money on him flipping scum and now you're not confident enough to vote him?

Alisae has a lower chance of flipping scum than T3 imo, but it's still a considerate rate.

And if you read the game you would know how much stuff she put herself head first into.

Why do you think that won't bring us any information?

What does this even mean - you say "alisae has been at the center of a lot of stuff" but that does not tell me why he's supposed to be scum. It makes quite literally no sense at all. Don't turn the qusetion back on me - what "information" are you getting out of flipping alisae?

Are you going to push for a kitty execution tomorrow if T3 flips town? Who next then, Shiro's slot maybe?

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not pushing

either

of those slots right now

[catboi]

i feel similarly to charloux here so i don't really get what catboi thinks is so bad about the post

you feel similarly to that dogshit word salad explanation?

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: alisae

im down

Why?

I see significant talk about Alisae in your posts but I get no idea of solid reads. Just text that makes my eyes glaze over.

i haven't really wanted to engage with alisae much bc they seem to intentionally be making it really difficult/unpleasant to engage with them

and i think that in itself is actually kinda scummy

i think in general, especially lately, their pushes have felt like they're more motivated by agenda than stemming from anything natural

there's been times where like tone has vibed as towny for me but i didn't like the back and forths with datisi and catboi at all

[Titus]

Look at bear blatantly fishing me after I said I joined the towniest clan. Lol

T3, fire, pp, bear +1

[Titus]

i feel similarly to charloux here so i don't really get what catboi thinks is so bad about the post

you feel similarly to that dogshit word salad explanation?

Fire's scum promoting bad opinions. Check his ISO. Verbose word salad. All of it.

[catboi]

i think in general, especially lately, their pushes have felt like they're more motivated by agenda than stemming from anything natural

elaborate on this?

[Charloux]

Comparing these two i'd bet my money on T3 flipping scum

Yes i look really certain in my reads.
Won't bother telling you concrete stuff just because you are too lazy to read her ISO. From the top of my head Van, Norwegian, Dann, T3 are all tied to Alisae one way or another.

[SCRRRDBEAR]

you literally said you'd bet money on him flipping scum and now you're not confident enough to vote him?

FLAME BAIT DETECTED--CAUTION, CHARLOUX--CARELESSNESS IS THE BIGGEST CAUSE OF FIRE

Look at bear blatantly fishing me after I said I joined the towniest clan. Lol

T3, fire, pp, bear +1

FLAME BAIT DETECTION DOUBLE-TIME: BE A HERO, LEARN FIRE PREVENTION

[PenguinPower]

[6] Not voting: catboi, Marashu, Shiro, Val89, T3, Alisae

Why aren't you consolidating? That's your whole thing no? Is Titus going to magically cop votes without you doing anything to accomplish it?

That's my whole D1 thing, yes. I also generally default to it in the absence of something to latch on to.

I'm not moving off Titus lest we're in danger of a no yeet.

[Mistyx]

i hope shiro's slot issues a clarification soon because god marashu is so scummy

True, but I don't see scum!shiro linking to scum!marashu like that unless scum!marashu's role was so vital they'd lose the game without it

0% chance unless fire is also scum

[Ydrasse]

VOTE COUNT 2.6

[4]

KittyTacky

: Cephrir, Something_Smart, SCRRRDBEAR, Bell
[4]

Alisae

: Val89, Datisi, Charloux, fireisredsir
[3]

T3

: NorwegianboyEE,Titus, KittyTacky
[1]

Titus

: PenguinPower
[1]

Something_Smart

: Mistyx
[1]

fireisredsir

: Dannflor
[1]

Charloux

: catboi

[4]

Not voting

: Marashu, Shiro, T3, Alisae

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With 19 alive, it takes 10 to eliminate.

Day two ends in (expired on 2022-11-10 00:51:10).

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