Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Grib]

Like if he isn’t going to claim and Bella knows something, the least she could do is chime in about what NM might be. If she still wants to kill him, then I will take it to mean she doesn’t think he can actually be a Mason.

[Grib]

Difference being.

NM can be shot.
Grib no.

You specifically think I’m a mafia goon then? If you think I’m scum, why can’t I be a lying power role?

[Grib]

Might be a TMI slip but I’ll let other people evaluate.

[Aisa]

Hmmm... ideally this (the Grib case) is the kind of stuff that I would have 5 days, not 6 hours to mull over. But I think I'd like to stay on NM.

Difference being.

NM can be shot.
Grib no.

You specifically think I’m a mafia goon then? If you think I’m scum, why can’t I be a lying power role?

Might be a TMI slip but I’ll let other people evaluate.

I agree the post doesn't really make complete sense, not really inclined to read too much into it, though.

[Enchant]

If Bella is a town Vig, and Frog is a town Doctor, and Eira is a town whatever the fuck, and NM is a town Mason, then all of the mafia are in

Grib

/Aisa/Elements/Enchant.

lol didn't strike self from this list, scum claim ez game

[Aisa]

Like if he isn’t going to claim and Bella knows something, the least she could do is chime in about what NM might be. If she still wants to kill him, then I will take it to mean she doesn’t think he can actually be a Mason.

What makes you think Bella knows something?

[Grib]

It sounds to be like he knows I’m vanilla vOv

[Enchant]

Difference being.

NM can be shot.
Grib no.

You specifically think I’m a mafia goon then? If you think I’m scum, why can’t I be a lying power role?

I said

Shot on NM heavily implues roleblocker/NM lies.

Shot on you implues nothing, unless you suddenly mafia PR which not guarantee.

So NM shall be shot, you shall be hanged, i shall drink tea

[Grib]

Eiraaaa omg to cite Bella, if you are scum I will be sad face. Anyway, I'm taking that post to mean you don't CC any of the claims?

no counterclaims. bella has an idea about me.

Erias town.

[Grib]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Enchant

I’m parking here for now.

[Bellaphant]

Eira, do you think there's a RB?

[Eiralox]

Comparing D1 pre #1018 N_M to post #1018 D2 and D3 N_M i'd say there's a high probability for them to be mason. That drop in general interest, a marked altering of engagement, meshes well with 'ah fuck my hombres dead i'm sorta useless now.' I mean, Day 1 Not_Mafia had active presence imo, and them being in a hood with erynis/status isn't so far fetched an idea, i;m not the first to bring it up. After the D2 flip..... N_M is ghost. just naked votes on bella and frog and maybe what are fond reminiscences of a better time. so idk definetly a possible disheartened town vibe way i see it.

[Aisa]

Like if he isn’t going to claim and Bella knows something, the least she could do is chime in about what NM might be. If she still wants to kill him, then I will take it to mean she doesn’t think he can actually be a Mason.

@grib, I got cold feet.

I kicked myself for not just shooting nm..that's the elim I think I want today anyway, honestly

?

Yeah, I guess at least I have to have slightly positive utility in that I don't shoot a claimed pr and at least then I can't kill? I would assume scum only have pr now.

I am so confused as to what's happening, but this post is a thing.

[Enchant]

If i was mason and my mates was killed by mafia+vigilante, oh boy i would be pissed.

[Eiralox]

Eira, do you think there's a RB?

I have no idea at this point, i haven't been interefered with so nothing brings me to that conclusion. who, and what, the scum are is.... troubling to me right now. idk how you feel.

[Enchant]

VOTE GRIB

[Aisa]

This is CSF's previous mini normal, somebody go figure out something clever with mod meta
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13331277

[Bellaphant]

It's set up, really.

Let's say I'm sure eira is a pr, but I don't know what alignment.
Let's say I believe frog, mainly because of the way they approach enchant when he spoke about being vig
I know I'm complex, which makes me p sure the rest of maf are pr
Three masons?? Is that balanced?

Also, one post about mech spec really pinged me.

[Bellaphant]

Who reviewed?

[Elements]

I am here but also at work so don't expect anything insightful from me, just letting you know I can change my vote

[Aisa]

Bella, I don't think the reviewer is information we're given.
Accepting your premises, I feel like the only way this game is even remotely balanced with three masons is if some of the Town PRs interfere with each other. Idk

[Grib]

If Eira’s role is not explicitly and 100% a town role, then why is he exempt from the massclaim? I literally cannot comprehend this.

[Aisa]

I don't think they should be exempt, I just can't think of a strategy that would work for getting a claim that someone hasn't already tried.

[Grib]

Threat of death usually works.

If a TPR lets themselves be eliminated instead of claiming, that is called gamethrowing. Maybe he thinks his role is vital to breaking the game, but how can it if Bella isn’t even sure?

I don’t mean to be harsh but from a vanilla perspective, this is completely nonsensical.

[Grib]

Again, if all of the claimed power is true and town, including NM, then (excluding myself this time) the last two mafia are among Aisa/Elements/Enchant. That is crazy to me.