Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[MathBlade]

Protective roles and my theory that Solar/Lunar act on one night is wrong? (I don’t think it is it is possible)

Like too many reasons to count.

[furtiveglance]

Preferred votes: Maid Cafe, Scarfmanship, T-Bone

VOTE: Maid Cafe

[unwnd]

We are in the bad timeline where you didn't eject mastina despite the fact she has the most stake in the game

Her role sounds nice, but a lot of roles sound nice in theme games

I hold her accountable for her actions

[Yume]

Well, when someone is targeted by scum, that generally means they're town, does it not?

Note that I said 'generally'.

Why would scum target her?

To kill her? She's one of the few players that can read others well, so scum would want to be rid of her.

[T-Bone]

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow is blessed by the lunar goddess Luna. They cannot be aligned with the Solar Cult. If they were eliminated during this phase, the Lunar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Lunar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

DDS was a tertiary read for people. They were even offered up as alternatives and shot down. This is something I clocked to myself during the night, so I'm posting to give myself some accountability to compare notes.

I want to lim Mastina, but I don't want another long fight about it right now. Maybe try again later in the day.

[MathBlade]

Well, when someone is targeted by scum, that generally means they're town, does it not?

Note that I said 'generally'.

Why would scum target her?

To kill her? She's one of the few players that can read others well, so scum would want to be rid of her.

Uhm let’s not rehash D1 please. I disagree and so do other players.

Instead let’s ask why Professor is gone and elim in professors scumreads

[unwnd]

Would anyone like to tell me why Bunnyonce was able to be pushed through but conveniently mastina was able to survive

Either she has bad town reads as town or she's scum

Pedit: Professor doesn't necessarily have to be town. Not interested in that WIFOM but yeah

[MathBlade]

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow is blessed by the lunar goddess Luna. They cannot be aligned with the Solar Cult. If they were eliminated during this phase, the Lunar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Lunar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

DDS was a tertiary read for people. They were even offered up as alternatives and shot down. This is something I clocked to myself during the night, so I'm posting to give myself some accountability to compare notes.

I want to lim Mastina, but I don't want another long fight about it right now. Maybe try again later in the day.

Can this wait until Dusk 2 please after she gives a result?

If she’s scum then we at least get wine. I think she’s town though.

[unwnd]

Oh and I need the people nuthugging mastina to clarify their read because you're accountable too

I'm AFK based on how cooperative people are

[furtiveglance]

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow is blessed by the lunar goddess Luna. They cannot be aligned with the Solar Cult. If they were eliminated during this phase, the Lunar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Lunar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

DDS was a tertiary read for people. They were even offered up as alternatives and shot down. This is something I clocked to myself during the night, so I'm posting to give myself some accountability to compare notes.

I want to lim Mastina, but I don't want another long fight about it right now. Maybe try again later in the day.

What sort of non-vanilla abilities do we think the cults have? Recruitment?

[MathBlade]

Would anyone like to tell me why Bunnyonce was able to be pushed through but conveniently mastina was able to survive

Either she has bad town reads as town or she's scum

Pedit: Professor doesn't necessarily have to be town. Not interested in that WIFOM but yeah

It’s really good not to elim her today.

I really can’t explain why not.

Please trust me on this.

[unwnd]

I'm fine with playing along, but I'm not letting her pick the elim

[furtiveglance]

Oh and I need the people nuthugging mastina to clarify their read because you're accountable too

I'm AFK based on how cooperative people are

Yeah Yume, nuthugging like a squirrel in winter

[MathBlade]

Oh and I need the people nuthugging mastina to clarify their read because you're accountable too

I'm AFK based on how cooperative people are

Please don’t use genital based terms. Thanks.

[furtiveglance]

I'm fine with playing along, but I'm not letting her pick the elim

Can I pick?

[T-Bone]

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow is blessed by the lunar goddess Luna. They cannot be aligned with the Solar Cult. If they were eliminated during this phase, the Lunar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Lunar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

DDS was a tertiary read for people. They were even offered up as alternatives and shot down. This is something I clocked to myself during the night, so I'm posting to give myself some accountability to compare notes.

I want to lim Mastina, but I don't want another long fight about it right now. Maybe try again later in the day.

Can this wait until Dusk 2 please after she gives a result?

If she’s scum then we at least get wine. I think she’s town though.

Yeah it's fine. I think we have a few things we can cross reference anyway (opposition to mastina's wagon, bunny's wagon, opposition to DDS).

There wasn't a lot of serious discussion in my opinion on Mathblade being scum so I don't think those same associatives with the solar team exists, but if someone thinks otherwise I'm open to that data.

[Yume]

Well, when someone is targeted by scum, that generally means they're town, does it not?

Note that I said 'generally'.

Why would scum target her?

To kill her? She's one of the few players that can read others well, so scum would want to be rid of her.

Uhm let’s not rehash D1 please. I disagree and so do other players.

Instead let’s ask why Professor is gone and elim in professors scumreads

You were there in SU2 right? The game where she was right about RR being scum? Want me to link it and other games where she was right about who scum are?

[unwnd]

Oh and I need the people nuthugging mastina to clarify their read because you're accountable too

I'm AFK based on how cooperative people are

Please don’t use genital based terms. Thanks.

I acknowledge this, won't happen again

[MathBlade]

Well, when someone is targeted by scum, that generally means they're town, does it not?

Note that I said 'generally'.

Why would scum target her?

To kill her? She's one of the few players that can read others well, so scum would want to be rid of her.

Uhm let’s not rehash D1 please. I disagree and so do other players.

Instead let’s ask why Professor is gone and elim in professors scumreads

You were there in SU2 right? The game where she was right about RR being scum? Want me to link it and other games where she was right about who scum are?

Let’s really not do this.

I can link to games she was really bad.

She’s swingy and that’s okay.

[T-Bone]

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow is blessed by the lunar goddess Luna. They cannot be aligned with the Solar Cult. If they were eliminated during this phase, the Lunar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Lunar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

DDS was a tertiary read for people. They were even offered up as alternatives and shot down. This is something I clocked to myself during the night, so I'm posting to give myself some accountability to compare notes.

I want to lim Mastina, but I don't want another long fight about it right now. Maybe try again later in the day.

What sort of non-vanilla abilities do we think the cults have? Recruitment?

I mean regardless of abilities available, if you're scum and you're told 'if you lim this one random townie day 1 you lose your PRs' you're gonna treat it like a secondary win condition.

[unwnd]

I'm fine with playing along, but I'm not letting her pick the elim

Can I pick?

I don't want anyone to necessarily pick

But feel free to offer up some suggestions?

I am not making this day 'let's kill mastina', I am saying 'please hold mastina

accountable

'

[mastina]

Mastina had the reins D1 and was wrong, bunnyonce was one of her scumreads

I mean, I get it--I was wrong on Bunnyonce, after having initially being wrong on MathBlade and professotic (before eventually getting the read there wrong).

But the thing about PoEs is that one name flipping town in the PoE does not invalidate the PoE being used.

DOUBLE-LOCKTOWN (role+play):
{MathBlade, Yume, T-Bone, Enchant}
LOCKTOWN (play):
{Save the Dragons/Ydrasse, Past Present Future, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, professotic}

THE PoE POOL:
{Scarfmanship}
{MMR}

{furtiveglance} (it still doesn't look like his play from Datisi's Cafe, but his play doesn’t actually look town and has many objectively scummy stances)

SCUMLEAN:
{Maid Cafe}

SCUMREAD:
{Frozen Angel, unwnd, Radical Rat}

Where would the locktown pool be wrong?

It's not.

So where are the scum?

In the remainder.

The remainder being {Scarfmanship, MMR, furtiveglance, Maid Cafe, Frozen Angel, unwnd, Radical Rat}.

That remainder still has seven names in it--meaning one name in there is town at minimum.

Bunnyonce was in the pool and flipped town, but the pool was larger than the number of scum.

My PoE isn't wrong until there's fewer names within it than there are scum. (As in, say, five names with six scum alive--at that point the PoE would be by necessity wrong.)

So yes--I

should

be followed, at least

loosely

.

I don't particularly care which name in the pool we eliminate. I'll vote any of them. If someone else wants to campaign for a particular name in the pool, I'll follow their push.

But like--we should

never

be eliminating outside that PoE, because that PoE is not wrong.

If people just let her repeat D1 I am going to afk

Well that works for me since with you as scum that makes it much easier for the town to win.

[unwnd]

Delusional

I'm AFK

[furtiveglance]

Oh and I need the people nuthugging mastina to clarify their read because you're accountable too

I'm AFK based on how cooperative people are

Please don’t use genital based terms. Thanks.

I acknowledge this, won't happen again

I also apologise but it was satirical when I used it so I get a reduced sentence.

[MathBlade]

I'm fine with playing along, but I'm not letting her pick the elim

Can I pick?

I don't want anyone to necessarily pick

But feel free to offer up some suggestions?

I am not making this day 'let's kill mastina', I am saying 'please hold mastina

accountable

'

And she will be. Just have a little faith please.

You’ll see given time how mine links with hers.

Which even if she’s scum she can’t lie.

If she gives a Dusk on a Solar scum she’s outed scum or vice versa.

So then it’s likely she gives the check correctly.