Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[MathBlade]

So you vote furitive, who also opposed the way D1 happened,

Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared

This is slightly boiling my blood, as MathBlade implied this about me yesterday. It's basically playing badly then victim blaming, as me, the player with good reads (possibly) who opposes the vote on town and proposes a vote on (possible) scum, is blamed for "omg TMI" or "looking good on the flip" when you guys are the ones with really bad reads and votes. And then I get "Oh you should do more then, push harder" when I have such a clear poe and scumpool and I just get aired by the entire lobby.

It's a really alienating thing to do, and it's the sign of a pretty clapped gamestate in which scum can slate any good town player for "TMI".

Am I being unreasonable, like on mumsnet?

I am not sure what you’re saying so I am unsure if it is reasonable or not.

[furtiveglance]

So you vote furitive, who also opposed the way D1 happened,

Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared

This is slightly boiling my blood, as MathBlade implied this about me yesterday. It's basically playing badly then victim blaming, as me, the player with good reads (possibly) who opposes the vote on town and proposes a vote on (possible) scum, is blamed for "omg TMI" or "looking good on the flip" when you guys are the ones with really bad reads and votes. And then I get "Oh you should do more then, push harder" when I have such a clear poe and scumpool and I just get aired by the entire lobby.

It's a really alienating thing to do, and it's the sign of a pretty clapped gamestate in which scum can slate any good town player for "TMI".

Am I being unreasonable, like on mumsnet?

I am not sure what you’re saying so I am unsure if it is reasonable or not.

2974, it's so annoying to see. When I literally was pushing someone else at the time, I was just being ignored.

[MathBlade]

So you vote furitive, who also opposed the way D1 happened,

Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared

This is slightly boiling my blood, as MathBlade implied this about me yesterday. It's basically playing badly then victim blaming, as me, the player with good reads (possibly) who opposes the vote on town and proposes a vote on (possible) scum, is blamed for "omg TMI" or "looking good on the flip" when you guys are the ones with really bad reads and votes. And then I get "Oh you should do more then, push harder" when I have such a clear poe and scumpool and I just get aired by the entire lobby.

It's a really alienating thing to do, and it's the sign of a pretty clapped gamestate in which scum can slate any good town player for "TMI".

Am I being unreasonable, like on mumsnet?

I am not sure what you’re saying so I am unsure if it is reasonable or not.

2974, it's so annoying to see. When I literally was pushing someone else at the time, I was just being ignored.

Who? If so it was being drowned out.

[furtiveglance]

So you vote furitive, who also opposed the way D1 happened,

Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared

This is slightly boiling my blood, as MathBlade implied this about me yesterday. It's basically playing badly then victim blaming, as me, the player with good reads (possibly) who opposes the vote on town and proposes a vote on (possible) scum, is blamed for "omg TMI" or "looking good on the flip" when you guys are the ones with really bad reads and votes. And then I get "Oh you should do more then, push harder" when I have such a clear poe and scumpool and I just get aired by the entire lobby.

It's a really alienating thing to do, and it's the sign of a pretty clapped gamestate in which scum can slate any good town player for "TMI".

Am I being unreasonable, like on mumsnet?

I am not sure what you’re saying so I am unsure if it is reasonable or not.

2974, it's so annoying to see. When I literally was pushing someone else at the time, I was just being ignored.

Who? If so it was being drowned out.

Yeah. It was being drowned out. Not I wasn't doing anything. Massive difference. I was voting Ydrasse. I had a very clear scumpool. I still do.

[furtiveglance]

Going to bed now, I think I joined the realm of the annoying players

[Past Present Future]

As the sun begins to set, a ray of sunlight catches onto Mathblade and surrounds him. Likewise, as the moon rises the moonlight surrounds Dingle Dangle Scarecrow. They are surrounded by radiant and ethereal light.

Mathblade is blessed by the solar god Helius. He cannot be aligned with the Lunar Cult. If he was eliminated during this phase, the Solar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Solar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow is blessed by the lunar goddess Luna. They cannot be aligned with the Solar Cult. If they were eliminated during this phase, the Lunar Cult would have been vanilaised. The Lunar Cult was the only group with access to this information.

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Thus begins Night 1! Send me anything you might do!

The deadline for the night is 1 day.

This timer will likewise freeze at 24 hours remaining until I receive a replacement for Maid Cafe.

In addition to my toneread on Mastina, I think this also makes her slot very likely town. I think scum were either on her wagon or twiddling their thumbs letting it happen.

[T-Bone]

Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol

This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.

Something something meta can't possibly wrong.

You do you and you'll probably feel saner.

Do I need to requote my post from Doubles’ where I correctly tr Mastina based off of - you guessed it - meta?

No meta is trash.

And I'll just grab your Taly quotes so...

[Past Present Future]

Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol

This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.

Something something meta can't possibly wrong.

You do you and you'll probably feel saner.

Do I need to requote my post from Doubles’ where I correctly tr Mastina based off of - you guessed it - meta?

No meta is trash.

And I'll just grab your Taly quotes so...

Taly isn’t Mastina. I have extremely little experience with scum!Taly but lots with both town and scum!Mastina.

[T-Bone]

Way more interested in MMR's maybe guilty on you tbh

[Past Present Future]

Subject: Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now

Can I get some details here?

I honestly think Trojan actually has been putting in some serious work, I have a solid townread on them now

Can I get some details here?

I'm also interested in this. I'm clearly not taking this game super seriously... I am doing some amount of solving though but I'm curious to hear about what you mean by "serious work".

When I say "serious work", I don't mean actual game solving effort. I just liked the direction they were going and how they were interacting with me. Essentially they shaped up.

I would still like some specifics. I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion based on what they posted between A and B, and also whether you can convince me they're not scum.

Mastina isn’t an easy read but she seems to be pretty genuine here, where she seems kind of off as scum.

Oh that's a really good way of describing it yeah.

As scum I've tried a lifetime to not feel "off" to myself but to this day, never had a scumgame where I didn't feel 'off'. And when I can tell I am 'off' as scum, I can tell that others can tell, too.

Similarly so for as town. Like this game, I can recognize I'm not the normal town mastina but can still feel that I'm *a* town mastina and am not 'off' to a degree where scumreads on me should exist. They shouldn't.

This is also a mastina scumpost. I believe I recall some game where she went on and on about excuses why she didn't match up to her normal self but was totally town, possibly in the absence of anyone pressing her on it.

Mastina talks about her meta all the time, this is NIA for her,

she is tonally town. I have never seen her effectively fake that in any game where I’ve played with scum!her.

I was right in that game, Mastina was town.

[Past Present Future]

Way more interested in MMR's maybe guilty on you tbh

I don’t see how that’s even possible.

[Past Present Future]

Way more interested in MMR's maybe guilty on you tbh

I don’t see how that’s even possible.

But wtf does it have anything whatsoever to do with Taly?

[Scarfmanship]

Game is in shitsville until MMR comes back. I wish MMR was real because there are some checks they really really need to make.

Some of mastina's posts today have been really awful, like proposing there's a second divine light event.

[Past Present Future]

Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.

Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol

This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.

Something something meta can't possibly wrong.

You do you and you'll probably feel saner.

Do I need to requote my post from Doubles’ where I correctly tr Mastina based off of - you guessed it - meta?

No meta is trash.

And I'll just grab your Taly quotes so...

I wrongly tr Taly in LOST and correctly tr Mastina in Doubles. I know we’re town here regardless of whatever MMR is so . . . \0/

[Past Present Future]

Game is in shitsville until MMR comes back. I wish MMR was real because there are some checks they really really need to make.

Some of mastina's posts today have been really awful, like proposing there's a second divine light event.

Can you quote that specific line because I have ADHD and filter out much of her posts?

[Scarfmanship]

I'm trying to read d1 to figure out who was doing the discussion ruining unwnd was talking about.

The bunny sentiment train seemingly started with DDS (!?!?) saying they don't like bunny -> unwnd says DDS calling out bunny is a weak move -> tbone is kind of there, discussion ends.

Bunny shows up and tries to engage with the game a bit. Enchant votes bunn.

Mastina starts catching up and stalling the game. Calls bunny scum. Almost every page up until mastina's claim has a post where mastina calls bunny scum (it might be in a quote, im control-f surfing)

I think I might have been mastina's original target...? But then post claim it was too obvious that I was town. Math votes bunny saying "why not?". I vote bunny, furitive immediately opposes it. Prof votes bunny saying it has too much resistance (lol, lmao). tbone votes bunny. PPF votes bunny. Yume doesn't want to vote bunny when asked, would rather vote rat. Then votes bunny. Rat hammers after bunny posts thoughts

but from this reread, the only people who had a strong opinion that bunny was scum were prof (Dead) and mastina. everyone else just voted. thats kinda messed up.

[Scarfmanship]

Game is in shitsville until MMR comes back. I wish MMR was real because there are some checks they really really need to make.

Some of mastina's posts today have been really awful, like proposing there's a second divine light event.

Can you quote that specific line because I have ADHD and filter out much of her posts?

it's not a line, it's an entire post. 3248. really bad post by mastina, reads like out of control leader pulling agenda affirming content straight from their ass. Not sure what adhd has to do with it, but if you're asking for a tldr of 3248, here are the most relevant lines:

But my theory is the mechanic is still present. As in, every day, until some sort of condition is met, two players are revealed with one revealed as not-sun and the other not-moon.
Those conditions could be anything from
-A scum player is eliminated,
-Enough phases of the game have passed (with it having been a set number, say, 2-4 reveals total),
-A player that was bathed in sun/moonlight is eliminated,
Who knows exactly.

But I don't think that it was just a D1 thing, just MathBlade and Dingle Dangle Scarecrow and nobody else for the rest of the game.

and based on this totally out there theory

But if my theory is right, you know what that gives scum incentive to do?

Potentially--eliminate a target.

If Past Present Future are bathed in light right now, that gives a motive for MMR to eliminate them, especially given the SOFT nature of the guilty. They're not claiming cop with a guilty where after a townflip from PPF we always kill MMR. They're claiming a soft guilty, one which is easy to talk their way out of when PPF flip town.

The reward from an elimination on a bathed target would be worth the risk of potentially (but not guaranteed) being eliminated after, would it not?

That gives incentive, that gives motive.

like wtf

[Scarfmanship]

MMR’s claimed target doesn’t make sense either.

Can you explain why PPF?

Mumps and Measles wanted to investigate PPF after it was confirmed that your role was related to the scum.
Don't ask me about why they decided to do that.
-Rubella

why did they decided to do that

[Past Present Future]

Game is in shitsville until MMR comes back. I wish MMR was real because there are some checks they really really need to make.

Some of mastina's posts today have been really awful, like proposing there's a second divine light event.

Can you quote that specific line because I have ADHD and filter out much of her posts?

it's not a line, it's an entire post. 3248. really bad post by mastina, reads like out of control leader pulling agenda affirming content straight from their ass. Not sure what adhd has to do with it, but if you're asking for a tldr of 3248, here are the most relevant lines:

But my theory is the mechanic is still present. As in, every day, until some sort of condition is met, two players are revealed with one revealed as not-sun and the other not-moon.
Those conditions could be anything from
-A scum player is eliminated,
-Enough phases of the game have passed (with it having been a set number, say, 2-4 reveals total),
-A player that was bathed in sun/moonlight is eliminated,
Who knows exactly.

But I don't think that it was just a D1 thing, just MathBlade and Dingle Dangle Scarecrow and nobody else for the rest of the game.

and based on this totally out there theory

But if my theory is right, you know what that gives scum incentive to do?

Potentially--eliminate a target.

If Past Present Future are bathed in light right now, that gives a motive for MMR to eliminate them, especially given the SOFT nature of the guilty. They're not claiming cop with a guilty where after a townflip from PPF we always kill MMR. They're claiming a soft guilty, one which is easy to talk their way out of when PPF flip town.

The reward from an elimination on a bathed target would be worth the risk of potentially (but not guaranteed) being eliminated after, would it not?

That gives incentive, that gives motive.

like wtf

I don’t really understand this setup but I don’t see why any of that makes Mastina scum? Having possibly “out there” theories is totally nia for Mastina, if it is.

[Past Present Future]

MMR’s claimed target doesn’t make sense either.

Can you explain why PPF?

Mumps and Measles wanted to investigate PPF after it was confirmed that your role was related to the scum.
Don't ask me about why they decided to do that.
-Rubella

why did they decided to do that

I don’t understand this either. That’s why we need to get an explanation from them.

[MathBlade]

I am interested in that too because I didn’t say how my role relates to alignments.

I was hoping to pressure MMR when they came online next.

Nothing was confirmed by anyone in thread.

[Past Present Future]

I am interested in that too because I didn’t say how my role relates to alignments.

I was hoping to pressure MMR when they came online next.

Nothing was confirmed by anyone in thread.

Yeah, that’s an interesting point, I guess it’s possible they could be scum here.

That slot claimed to hard tr us before that, so it’s super weird.

[Past Present Future]

UNVOTE:

for now.

[MegAzumarill]

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[MegAzumarill]

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