Mini Normal 2283 - Game Over!

[Enchant]

VOTE: No Lim

[Grib]

I have literally never used the draft feature before, but today's the day.

Mostly so I don't have to drop like seven posts in a row. :V

[Grib]

Also, I think we should be solving for teams this phase. Scum only need one more mislim to win, so we should be hunting for and proposing teams to make the mafia put in that extra work.

I have a solve. I'll put it out there when Titus joins us.

[Aisa]

I received a Mailman message last night. Paraphrasing: "Sup? It's Titus and I'm a Mailman. I think you're Town so far. I'm going to read my predecessor's posts and do some VCA."

As we have no way of detecting whether Frog's claim is 100% true I'm thinking that maybe Enchant is right and we should just no elim. I think there's a 60% chance Frog just gets smoked during the night, but that would at least eliminate some residual uncertainty around his slot and save us all some anguish.

I'm not going to rush it, but unless anyone has any counterarguments to no limming I don't think we need to take the full week either. People can address any things they feel strongly about, Frog can leave probable last words and it would be nice to let Titus post a bit before we go to Night again.

I know Grib wanted me to reply to something yesterday, I'll find the post.

[Elements]

I received a Mailman message last night. Paraphrasing: "Sup? It's Titus and I'm a Mailman. I think you're Town so far. I'm going to read my predecessor's posts and do some VCA."

As we have no way of detecting whether Frog's claim is 100% true I'm thinking that maybe Enchant is right and we should just no elim. I think there's a 60% chance Frog just gets smoked during the night, but that would at least eliminate some residual uncertainty around his slot and save us all some anguish.

I'm not going to rush it, but unless anyone has any counterarguments to no limming I don't think we need to take the full week either. People can address any things they feel strongly about, Frog can leave probable last words and it would be nice to let Titus post a bit before we go to Night again.

I know Grib wanted me to reply to something yesterday, I'll find the post.

This post giving anyone else strong Aisa/Titus scum team vibes?

[Grib]

Eiralox really put up that much of a fight to hide a Mailman ability? Seriously?

[Elements]

Titus come give us a full claim please

[Elements]

I'm not going to rush it, but unless anyone has any counterarguments to no limming I don't think we need to take the full week either. People can address any things they feel strongly about, Frog can leave probable last words and it would be nice to let Titus post a bit before we go to Night again.

This feels hella scummy.

[Grib]

3 Masons
1 Vig
1 Doc
1 Mailman
4 VT

vs

1 Goon
???
???

I skimmed past mini normals to see if six TPRs was possible, and it was. With each of the roles being weakened (I assume the Doc has some sort of modifier as well), I think it still fits?

[Grib]

Ok well since Elements is hella shading Aisa.

I think Aisa and Enchant are the last two mafia.

[Elements]

Frog do you have a modifier?

[Elements]

Ok well since Elements is hella shading Aisa.

I think Aisa and Enchant are the last two mafia.

then why does Aisa reveal the mail?

[Elements]

Grib/Frog
Grib/Titus
Grib/Enchant
Grib/Aisa
Grib/Elements

Frog/Titus
Frog/Enchant
Frog/Aisa
Frog/Elements

Titus/Enchatn
Titus/Aisa
Titus/Elements

Enchant/Aisa
Enchant/Elements

Aisa/Elements

[Grib]

I don't see why it matters, the slot basically has to claim today.

[Elements]

Easy lim?

[Elements]

Grib/Frog

Grib/Titus

Grib/Enchant
Grib/Aisa

Grib/Elements

Frog/Titus
Frog/Enchant
Frog/Aisa
Frog/Elements

Titus/Enchatn
Titus/Aisa
Titus/Elements

Enchant/Aisa

Enchant/Elements

Aisa/Elements

Frog is Doc

Titus is mailman

I am town

[Elements]

Grib/Titus Grib/Enchant
Grib/Enchant Grib/Aisa
Grib/Aisa Enchant/Aisa
Titus/Enchant
Titus/Aisa
Enchant/Aisa

These are the two worlds I'm looking at.

World 1: Grib x 3, Titus x 3, Aisa x 3, Enchant x 3
World 2: Grib x 2, Aisa x 2, Enchant x 2

I think we should lim in Grib/Aisa/Enchant today. Of those three I think Grib is town.

[Elements]

that didn't keep my spacing at all

[Grib]

Uhhh I was gonna share my Eira read so we could talk about it. You good with clearing the slot?

[Elements]

Grib/Titus
Grib/Enchant
Grib/Aisa
Titus/Enchant
Titus/Aisa
Enchant/Aisa

Grib/Aisa
Grib/Enchant
Aisa/Enchant

These are the two worlds I'm looking at.

World 1: Grib x 3, Titus x 3, Aisa x 3, Enchant x 3
World 2: Grib x 2, Aisa x 2, Enchant x 2

I think we should lim in Grib/Aisa/Enchant today. Of those three I think Grib is town.

EBWOP

[Grib]

I'm pretty much at the exact same world, with your name swapped in for mine, and with me pretty much trusting that you're a villager here.

[Elements]

Uhhh I was gonna share my Eira read so we could talk about it. You good with clearing the slot?

I more than happy to talk about it. I'm not happy with Eira refusing to claim mailman but given how wrong the rest of my reads have been this game who knows at this point

[Grib]

What do the x2 and x3 signify?

[Elements]

What do the x2 and x3 signify?

how many possible teams that player is in

[Grib]

Ok cool. I typed this up this morning after rereading the first ~25 pages of the game last night.

Spoiler: Eira read

1. I think Eira had some pretty good responses to BBT's push on him. Not in the sense that they couldn't be faked, but they come off too naturally to be theater imo.
2. If Eira is scum, I think BBT bussing him was pretty unnecessary, and probably contributed to his demise because of how townread Eira was. Plus, whatever Eira's power is, it at the very least isn't a scummy power, so the bus here doesn't really make sense since neither BBT nor Eira really benefit. [I had this post typed up before the Mailman claim. I'm going to add another reason here: Eira never really "did" anything with the cred from the BBT flip.]
3. The biggest and most convincing reason is that basically 99% of BBT's scumread on Eira was his weird townread of Aisa. Eira kept saying he'd explain it but he never did for a looong time, and BBT kept pressing the issue over Days 1 and 2. I think it's way more likely BBT was pushing on a villager doing something scummy (not explaining a "strong" and early gut read) rather than this being theater.
4. Bonus reason, but Eira lashing out at me but also unvoting me before he left the thread, plus his refusal to vote NM, just. Flat out are not mafia actions imo. He rejected an easy lim and he rejected an easy vote on me.

Titus should claim what messages were sent to Bella and NM.