Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[Firebringer]

im totally gonna ignore any mastina/mathblade and ppp posts.
So much fricking white noise.

[MathBlade]

who is unwnd voting.
im sheeping them

Mastina

But MMR claimed loyal Neo no result on PPF

Yet no one wants to discuss MMR/PPF when I suggested elim one dayvig the other was crickets.

[unwnd]

It's intentional white noise this time

We have to outspam them

[furtiveglance]

Voting Mastina because they seem more defensive than last game, and their role sounds too useless to be real. And I want us to get past Mastina/unwnd clogging the game up

VOTE: Mastina

[unwnd]

If you are a good dog you will join my noble cause

[Firebringer]

VOTE: mastina

[unwnd]

Voting Mastina because they seem more defensive than last game, and their role sounds too useless to be real. And I want us to get past Mastina/unwnd clogging the game up

VOTE: Mastina

LETS FUCKINGGG GOOOOOOOO

[Firebringer]

If you are a good dog you will join my noble cause

some might call me best boi

[MathBlade]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

[mastina]

Some of mastina's posts today have been really awful, like proposing there's a second divine light event.

I don't see what's so bad about it.

The claim is terrible, and the target selection even worse, and the handling of it today even worse. It looks scum on every level.

PPF is guaranteed to be town, here.

So the scenarios are:
MMR is town who had their result fail,
MMR is scum who thinks PPF is scum,
MMR is scum who claimed a guilty on PPF in spite of PPF being clearly town.

The first I have laid out my reasons for finding beyond unlikely. The claim doesn't fit as town and the play doesn't fit as town.
The second

could

happen, but MMR would know they were in trouble if PPF didn't flip scum.

So, the third fits the best.

We know MMR is claiming effectively a guilty on PPF.
And PPF is town.
So the reason boils down to, we know it happened--why?
The reasons why it fits for town-MMR are sketchy-at-best.
The reasons why it fits for scum-MMR are there, with the only thing missing being the motive.

What could make claiming a guilty on town worth it for MMR?

We know that it happened; figuring out the why is secondary because it happened, the reasons we can guess but it happened.
And the best guess I have for the why is that there is more than one reveal.

My role PM is worded in a way that makes it possible to just have the one reveal, but loosely implies more than one. Some EVENTS, plural for events. The event D1 caused me to be unable to target MathBlade and Dingle Dangle Scarecrow.
EVENTS implies that there's more than just the D1 reveal.
Like, sayyyy...the mechanic being applicable to more than D1?

Is it guaranteed?

Why no, no it's not!

That's why it's a theory! (A game theory!)

But it's a

good

one because it helps explain the play we know has happened.

[unwnd]

Firebringer why arent you just sayin' shit tbh

I thought you loved that

Where's your bark

[Yume]

VOTE: mastina

Yes, I joined the coalition.

[Firebringer]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

fake dayvig

[unwnd]

This Is Literally What Have Should Have Happened D1 Holy Fuck

[Firebringer]

Firebringer why arent you just sayin' shit tbh

I thought you loved that

Where's your bark

you see this game? i was gone 24 hours and its unreadable mess. Just claim nonsense and arguing about nonsense from yesterday i have no interest in reading.

[unwnd]

We can take it back

[unwnd]

We have to be noisier than them

They either have to elim us (a fucking blessing) or spitefully vote with us to get us to stop

[mastina]

Mastina starts catching up and stalling the game. Calls bunny scum. Almost every page up until mastina's claim has a post where mastina calls bunny scum (it might be in a quote, im control-f surfing)

I think I might have been mastina's original target...? But then post claim it was too obvious that I was town.

Exactly this.

Bunnyonce was in my PoE. I thought Bunnyonce had a good chance of flipping scum.

I didn't have any

good

scumreads.

I HAD scumreads, and Bunnyonce was among them.

But I didn't have any

good

scumreads. Bunnyonce was in the PoE, and I was scumreading them by play, and we were out of time--that made them an okay wagon.

Not a great wagon.

I didn't have the time to develop any strong scumreads. I didn't have the time to process events properly to really get GOOD reads, after the events played out and shaked things up.

But Bunnyonce was someone I had previously had as south of null, hadn't towned it up, and was in the PoE. So it was the best option I could think of.

[Firebringer]

I didn't have the time to develop any strong scumreads. I

lol what

[unwnd]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

fake dayvig

You rly think so?

[Firebringer]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

fake dayvig

You rly think so?

yes

[mastina]

And I think that mastina slipped having a similar role.
-Rubella

I claimed a similar role on D1 and literally not a single member of your hydra commented on it--which is one of the reasons I think your claim is bullshit.

Me claiming was a VERY BIG THING at the end of the day.

It literally was the entire reason there was a scramble in the gamestate. It spewed T-Bone as town, it spewed Enchant as town, it got Scarfmanship off the voting list, it is why Bunnyonce was the player we ended up wagoning.

And you're trying to claim none of you saw it at all and thought to comment on it at all?

[MathBlade]

I will be dayvigging in those two tomorrow if we don’t elim them and would like it not to be on my shoulders alone to solve that.

fake dayvig

You rly think so?

FB didn’t read. It’s understandable. He’s wrong but it’s okay. I can just prove it tomorrow.

Let him sus.

[Firebringer]

i guess math could be someone who doesn't do the typical dayvig thing of just shooting. but 99% of time a dayvig doesn't just announce im a day vig unless they do it within 24 hours of them doing. Why give someone chance to night kill u if ur day vig. Makes no sense

[mastina]

Also, why are there people assuming that we're mech whizzes?
-Rubella

Because Ircher is literally a very big discusser of mechanics every game he plays in and a NRG member,
RH9 is one of the biggest discusser of mechanics particularly in the Normal Queue and incredibly prolific on MD,

And Roden is often involved competently in mech talk.

To claim all three of you paid no heed to mechanics at all this game is a dubious claim at best.