Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[MegAzumarill]

VC 2.0.4



Mastina (3) Unwnd, Furtiveglance, firebringer, [E-5]
past Present Future (3) Toogeloo, Enchant, Scarfmanship [E-5]
MMR (3) Radical Rat, T-bone , Mastina [E-5]

furtiveglance (1) Dingle Dangle Scarecrow,


Not Voting (5) Ydrasse, MMR, Mathblade, Past Present Future, Yume

Deadline: (expired on 2022-11-14 21:51:23)
With 15 alive it takes 8 to eliminate.


Prodding Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

[furtiveglance]

Reminder that Ydrasse is definitely mafia, filler logs throughout

[Scarfmanship]

...filler logs? are you a mafia.gg player?

[MathBlade]

So
Mastina/Bunny/PPF

And

Dingle/Radja/FA

Makes sense

A team with 2/3rds (or more) DDS/unwd/Fire would kill prof

Prof said he was confirmable with the janitor kill.

I think mainly it’s a matter of if MMR is swapped or unlucky town.

I think the scum teams are going after each other and it’s all for cred.

Crickets are loud damn.

[Toogeloo]

Sp how would you do the day, Math, if you had complete control? Vig target, Elim, etc.

[Scarfmanship]

This, but addressed to Toogeloo

[MathBlade]

Sp how would you do the day, Math, if you had complete control? Vig target, Elim, etc.

Vig target is tomorrow

I’d have the day fall naturally to test my theory.

One side “wins” and gets their elim.

If I have to pick, I would do it later.

[T-Bone]

It's probably better if there is a little suspense over Math's target.

Though I'll be unhappy if it happens outside a certain subset of people.

[Firebringer]

theres things i want to respond to about mastina.
but then i realized thats just going to create more noise.
is it worth engaging.

the answer my shock you:
no

[MathBlade]

theres things i want to respond to about mastina.
but then i realized thats just going to create more noise.
is it worth engaging.

the answer my shock you:
no

Then why not engage in MMR/PPF even if your vote won’t change?

[Firebringer]

what specifically should i engage with

[Firebringer]

i am undecided if PPF is mafia. I don't like whatever posting and the few positions seen but none of that makes scum.

and this guilty thing interests me zero percent

What should interest you is PPF's reaction to being guiltied, and how they have behaved for the rest of the day. With a threat of dayvig looming and pressure to vote in the cc, PPF knows time is running out (avatar related pun intended). Let's compare how hydras bunny and PPF have reacted to imminent death.

Aisa dumps a scuffed reads list with plenty of missing parts and ???s, (2795), dumps greeting's POE (2977). Eager to get thoughts out there even if they are incomplete and half baked.

Nancy doesn't want to a reads list on other players because it will get shit on [3362], but they also don't want to say who is scum on mastina's wagon and would rather speak in vague terms [3376], and instead makes an easy omgus vote on unwnd [3698]. Ironically enough PPF tells math to look at other slots while refusing to do so themselves [3408], tells math to stop controlling the game [3468]

So much of PPF's iso this day is the same things repeated again and again,all of which are entirely self centered and do not read other players.

- mastina is town
- i would never kill prof
- people who oppose me are scum
- mathblade, please stop reminding people that there is a guilty on me

- i have a confirmable role as early as tomorrow*

*terms and conditions may apply

Compare this to how Titus apparently is going to make a reads list in the future, but nancy won't even post an inkling of information, because, uhhh, when nancy makes readslists nancy gets shit on? Why is getting shit on a concern to you when you are at death's door + you are already getting shit on? Why won't nancy even take the first step to making reads on other players when I asked who was scum on wagon? Why is nancy concerned about getting shit on if they have a role that is confirmable as early as tomorrow**?

** professional driver on closed course, do not attempt

Bunny knew they were dying soon and did their best to give all their information away, even though they had next to nothing. PPF is one of the top posters in the game and refuses to give anything away. I think the answer is that they know they are dying soon and don't want to give any information away. They will instead quote this post and make a snarky remark.

Good post here

[MathBlade]

what specifically should i engage with

Where do you stand on MMR/PPF debate?

What would you do in my shoes?

[Firebringer]

what specifically should i engage with

Where do you stand on MMR/PPF debate?

What would you do in my shoes?

i don't care about MMR.
PPF could be scum but im not interested in pursuing. It will self sort either dead in a few days or poe to scum
if i were you, i wouldn't crumb vigi. Then i would have shot mastina
Finally prove all these people like yume who think they can read her wrong

[MathBlade]

what specifically should i engage with

Where do you stand on MMR/PPF debate?

What would you do in my shoes?

i don't care about MMR.
PPF could be scum but im not interested in pursuing. It will self sort either dead in a few days or poe to scum
if i were you, i wouldn't crumb vigi. Then i would have shot mastina
Finally prove all these people like yume who think they can read her wrong

Assume Mastina flips scum then who?
Assume Mastina flips town then who?
(Obviously if we don’t flip Mastina you’d say her)

[Firebringer]

Assume Mastina flips scum then who?
Assume Mastina flips town then who?
(Obviously if we don’t flip Mastina you’d say her)

i actually don't have a follow up shot.
probably holster till i get another strong scumread
maybe search the consensus null reads of people shoot in there

[MathBlade]

Assume Mastina flips scum then who?
Assume Mastina flips town then who?
(Obviously if we don’t flip Mastina you’d say her)

i actually don't have a follow up shot.
probably holster till i get another strong scumread
maybe search the consensus null reads of people shoot in there

Noted

[Radical Rat]

Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.

[MathBlade]

Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.

Too many pronouns? Can you please elaborate?

Of MMR/PPF what are your reads on each?

[Radical Rat]

[unwnd, furtive, Firebringer] contains one, possibly two scum is what I'm saying. Potentially even three if PPF/MMR is SvS. mastina is a counterwagon to resolving the guilty, which should be our top priority here, and I have a difficult time imagining Town thinking otherwise. If whichever of PPF/MMR gets eliminated flips scum, it's not entirely clear what the other's alignment is, but shooting any one of the mastina voters would have solid odds of hitting in my mind. I'd need to probably do ISOs to decide who my top top pick would be, but frankly I don't want to right now, and you said you wanted to keep it loose anyway.

I scumread MMR because I think the result (or lack thereof) is likely bullshit due to the premature claim, and presenting it as though the result is meaningless, making claiming make even less sense.

I lean scum on PPF, because if I'm wrong on MMR, that's obviously a guilty, but also my read from D1 with regards to the reciprocal Townread with mastina coming too early and too strong without much justification stands.

[MMR]

Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.

What makes you think scum won't bus?
Last time, I saw scum bus, Town ended up losing.
Surely, scum might do that again?
-Rubella

[unwnd]

mastina isn't a counterwagon to the guilty

I am fine with killing either one. My war is against mastina apologists

[Radical Rat]

Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.

What makes you think scum won't bus?
Last time, I saw scum bus, Town ended up losing.
Surely, scum might do that again?
-Rubella

I don't think scum WON'T bus, but I do think scum will at least attempt to save a partner first. Especially if it's done in a way that isn't an actual defense/townread, so they can easily switch to bussing if it becomes necessary.

[Radical Rat]

mastina isn't a counterwagon to the guilty

I am fine with killing either one. My war is against mastina apologists

We have a claimed guilty on the field, and that takes priority. mastina's not going anywhere, and stubbornly sticking to her is anti-Town at best.

[MathBlade]

Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.

What makes you think scum won't bus?
Last time, I saw scum bus, Town ended up losing.
Surely, scum might do that again?
-Rubella

Can you please explain why you aren’t voting for PPF?