Community | Day 1

[PenguinPower]

[The Bombay]

Hey Pengy, while I appreciate your support on the Koka wagon, before that you were voting for us.

Was there a reason behind this vote?

VOTE: Bombay

[Kokabiel]

Kokabiel - I don't really like 218, seems to have scum mindset on the brain talking about me 'pocketing' The Bombay and then goes and says 'I really like Passenger because he is always engaging and is thinking about stuff from multiple angles' but yeah hmm

So because you have an unexplained townread on a slot that scumread me for a thing you also did means i can't have a valid town on a person who is clearly trying to solve the game. Yes, these two things are so obviously the same *claps*

[PenguinPower]

Hey Pengy, while I appreciate your support on the Koka wagon, before that you were voting for us.

Was there a reason behind this vote?

VOTE: Bombay

Yes.

[Kokabiel]

I'm not answering any questions from useless baggage anymore so Tell me if you want a claim
Peace out till i see something scummy or a question from someone who actually is doing stuff.

[Bell]

I’m good I’ll just act even scummier to compensate so you’ll all legitimately scum read me.

[N.Y. M]

Town (most to least): The Bombay, Frogsterking, Passenger, DeasVail, JohnnyFarrar, Herta, Flavia, PenguinPower

Therefore a POE of 5:
Andres - done nothing really
Bell - feels a bit sus like I said earlier
Kokabiel - I don't really like 218, seems to have scum mindset on the brain talking about me 'pocketing' The Bombay and then goes and says 'I really like Passenger because he is always engaging and is thinking about stuff from multiple angles' but yeah hmm
NYM - done nothing, don't like the vote on Flavia which was unexplained. I think Flavia seems quite natural so far.
Star Power - done nothing. I don't really think their opening was scummy but just lack of posting so in the poe.

You’ve probably got two reads wrong there: us and I think Bell. I think Flavia wagon is pure. I thought you were better at reading me. Maybe you should maybe reread Trees again. I think the similarities should eventually become overwhelmingly obvious to you. Anyway, I agree with you on 218 so might switch my vote to that.

And it’s kind of ridiculous to call my vote here “naked”. A) it’s a post cap game and B) I told Frogs I would look at his case and found it pretty compelling but I’m starting to lean to maybe Kokabiel being scummier. I don’t understand why they are so over the top defensive in pretty much every single post.

I’m also liking Bombay. Luke sounds similar here to LOST I think.

~Nancy

[Passenger]

It makes it feel like she wanted to make a comment on *something*
~Luke

That part might be true. I try to talk more.

Maybe, but it was an observation related to my question to furtive.

Current discussion? Well, I am here: Kokabiel is convinced asking for votes on them is scum. Plus the whole inviting vs invited being a sign of town/mafia. Nope, don't agree with this logic but I don't think mafia would be so willing to put it all on that hill.

Why do you think that scum would not be willing to die on that hill? If anything, Kokabiel’s continued doubling down is scummy - scum try to win arguments, town try to gauge alignment.

[Frogsterking]

I read Kookaburra as a wrongly accused Townie though I went back and forth on them. I think being defensive is NAI because they are getting pushed hard. I currently expect Kookaburra to flip Town and that they are a counterwagon to save Flavia. I think Penguin's vote hop onto Kookaburra was sketch. I'm expecting andres to stumble in here and vote Kookaburra.

[Passenger]

I townread Passenger

Congrats, you have now ensured your survival to endgame.

(I'm half-joking, you may be right for all I know, it feels a little presumptive to me though)

Let me get this straight. furtive’s townread on me is presumptive, but your team solve with me in it is not presumptive?

[Frogsterking]

I townread Passenger

Congrats, you have now ensured your survival to endgame.

(I'm half-joking, you may be right for all I know, it feels a little presumptive to me though)

Let me get this straight. furtive’s townread on me is presumptive, but your team solve with me in it is not presumptive?

You aren't in my team solve. *snap snap* sharpen up.

[Frogsterking]

My team solve is Flavia/andres/Penguin.

[Frogsterking]

yeah idk frog I’m not feeling flavia-scum

Is it like a brain read or a heart read?

[furtiveglance]

Town (most to least): The Bombay, Frogsterking, Passenger, DeasVail, JohnnyFarrar, Herta, Flavia, PenguinPower

Therefore a POE of 5:
Andres - done nothing really
Bell - feels a bit sus like I said earlier
Kokabiel - I don't really like 218, seems to have scum mindset on the brain talking about me 'pocketing' The Bombay and then goes and says 'I really like Passenger because he is always engaging and is thinking about stuff from multiple angles' but yeah hmm
NYM - done nothing, don't like the vote on Flavia which was unexplained. I think Flavia seems quite natural so far.
Star Power - done nothing. I don't really think their opening was scummy but just lack of posting so in the poe.

You’ve probably got two reads wrong there: us and I think Bell. I think Flavia wagon is pure. I thought you were better at reading me. Maybe you should maybe reread Trees again. I think the similarities should eventually become overwhelmingly obvious to you. Anyway, I agree with you on 218 so might switch my vote to that.

And it’s kind of ridiculous to call my vote here “naked”. A) it’s a post cap game and B) I told Frogs I would look at his case and found it pretty compelling but I’m starting to lean to maybe Kokabiel being scummier. I don’t understand why they are so over the top defensive in pretty much every single post.

I’m also liking Bombay. Luke sounds similar here to LOST I think.

~Nancy

? You have like 3 posts and expect to be out of poe???

[PenguinPower]

It's nancy.

[Passenger]

How specifically am I misrepresenting your motivations? As for 135, I found it very hard to follow the specificities of your interaction with Kokabiel so I wanted to logically map it on paper before I came to a conclusion.

The misrep comes from summarizing my interaction with Koko and then attributing a scum motivation on my end when my motivation could more easily be explained as a Resident trying to solve the game from an uninformed perspective.

Can you elaborate? What about your posts can be more easily explained by town trying to solve?

[Passenger]

I townread Passenger

Congrats, you have now ensured your survival to endgame.

(I'm half-joking, you may be right for all I know, it feels a little presumptive to me though)

Let me get this straight. furtive’s townread on me is presumptive, but your team solve with me in it is not presumptive?

You aren't in my team solve. *snap snap* sharpen up.

I was definitely in your team solve when you made that post.

[Frogsterking]

Frog, if you are getting the feeling that Flavia is scummy, while also getting the feeling that she feels isolated. Why is your conclusion "she is the most active groupcum" and not "she seems like 3p"?

Because what I pointed out in my big post are groupscum tells. I think 3rd parties read more like Townies who are underperforming.

I townread Passenger

Congrats, you have now ensured your survival to endgame.

(I'm half-joking, you may be right for all I know, it feels a little presumptive to me though)

Let me get this straight. furtive’s townread on me is presumptive, but your team solve with me in it is not presumptive?

You aren't in my team solve. *snap snap* sharpen up.

I was definitely in your team solve when you made that post.

Touché.

[Frogsterking]

How specifically am I misrepresenting your motivations? As for 135, I found it very hard to follow the specificities of your interaction with Kokabiel so I wanted to logically map it on paper before I came to a conclusion.

The misrep comes from summarizing my interaction with Koko and then attributing a scum motivation on my end when my motivation could more easily be explained as a Resident trying to solve the game from an uninformed perspective.

Can you elaborate? What about your posts can be more easily explained by town trying to solve?

Everything.

[Flavia]

ything, Kokabiel’s continued doubling down is scummy - scum try to win arguments, town try to gauge alignment.

Yes, but they also want to not get elim, so in my mind, it doesn't help them much to continue with an argument that's either not that popular or could make them look bad whem/if it leads to a miselim.

Sort of why I actually think unfortunately, frogsterking is more likely town here.

[Frogsterking]

Passenger made a scum tell by the way. Are they still voting me? If I'm wrong on Flavia and right on Kookaburra then it would make sense for scum to be on a vanity wagon right now because they know it's a TvT cross.

[Frogsterking]

I townread Passenger

Congrats, you have now ensured your survival to endgame.

(I'm half-joking, you may be right for all I know, it feels a little presumptive to me though)

Let me get this straight. furtive’s townread on me is presumptive, but your team solve with me in it is not presumptive?

You aren't in my team solve. *snap snap* sharpen up.

I was definitely in your team solve when you made that post.

This is the scum tell by the way.

And if I take Dease word for it on Flavia and stick to my read onKookaburra then like I said it makes sense for Passenger to be attempting to discredit me right now while Town is split between two Townie wagons. If Passenger's vote is still on me I'm going to start pushing them instead.

[Frogsterking]

Flavia (4) - Bell, Herta, Frogsterking, N.Y. M
Kokabiel (3) - The Bombay, DeasVail, PenguinPower

Frogsterking (1) - Passenger

Yup. I'm going in this direction now. Kookaburra and Flavia are scummy-looking Town and Passenger is scum pushing a vanity wagon on me to try and keep me in the PoE. Passenger is way too concerned about being placed in a D1 team solve which wasn't even current at the time they bitched about it.

VOTE: Passenger

[N.Y. M]

UNVOTE:

[Frogsterking]

N.Y.M, try rereading Passenger under the assumption that Kookaburra and Flavia are Residents and tell me what you think.