Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[Past Present Future]

Math, I don't think you'll actually listen to what I say. Been bit too many times.

I haven't read 90% of the posts here lately as it's mech drowned out again.

It's just little fun to play in a game where I have no sutonomy.

VOTE: MMR

While I'd love to love out Math, there isn't evidence to policy lim him.

~Titus

You realize I was quite for like 3 days deliberately not taking a side until Nancy head said y’all won’t cooperate right?

Not making readslists on command is consistent for me and if you really want I can find plenty of examples of my getting shit on for those readslists. There’s no point in my making a readslist before I’m ready when they have consistently gotten trashed, except for the one time I was scum and got insta townread for it.

[T-Bone]

I don't even know what you're doing. Is this you flailing because you're actually scum? There's no benefit for town!PPF to not flip MMR.

[T-Bone]

Like, zero. Nada. I don't know why you keep trying to shift the game elsewhere.

[T-Bone]

Right, if you're town stuck in a 1v1, you know that the rest of your fellow townies needs to see the 1v1 resolved. Only scum doesn't need to see the 1v1 resolved, because there's always tomorrow for them.

[Past Present Future]

Like, zero. Nada. I don't know why you keep trying to shift the game elsewhere.

Nancy wants to actually play. I don't blame her. That's sailed though.

VOTE: MMR

~Titus

[Past Present Future]

VOTE: Scarf

Since d1, they’ve been sussing me for bs reasons. First, it’s because I defended my strong tr and threatened me not voting him Then he susses me because he’s the cw and thinks I’m defending Dangle or something p. Now I’m suddenly inexplicably Solar. I just think his reads on us are fake.

We should flip Scarf of all people instead of resolving one of the two slots entangled by a claimed guilty? Why would that be more important?

Why are they not voting us then? My strongest sr’s since d1 have been Scarf and Radja and that hasn’t really changed. We compromised voting out Bunny and she flipped town. In Post Apocalypse, we almost lost the game due to my making compromise votes.

They have a claim about their role double thing and I think it’s antitown af that no one id seriously trying to make sense of it. I want to find out if both could possibly be telling the truth and that would mean in that case, that the role they’re referring to is somewhere else. Or one of them could be lying. I still strongly town toneread Mastina but I don’t know why MMR is saying what they are about their role?

@MMR, what is the specific name of your role? You claimed loyal neapolitan, correct? So where then is the informed part of it?

I would optimally like this entire thing resolved because I think it’s extremely important and don’t understand why no one else seems to really care about doing that.

[Past Present Future]

I still prefer Scarf or Radja here until this whole thing gets resolved but whatever.

[Radical Rat]

How does pushing wagons on other people or fighting with MathBlade get anything resolved?

[MMR]

@MMR, what is the specific name of your role? You claimed loyal neapolitan, correct? So where then is the informed part of it?

I forgot to include that in my original claim.
We're

Town Astrologer

.
-Rubella

[furtiveglance]

Didn't Mastina say Astrologer

[MathBlade]

The Claim:

Don't expect anything groundbreaking. I've repeatedly reiterated that my claim won't save me. It's important information to have, but it isn't something that makes me any more town and from a surface level can even look more scum.

I'm a Town Limited Astrologer.

During Noons (so, effectively, in normal games, even-night), I check for the attunement of my target.

The attunements in the game are Sun and Moon.

All Solar Cult Members have a Sun attunement;
All Lunar Cult Members have a Moon attunement.

But attunements aren't just for scum.

Some town are sun attuned, some town are moon attuned, and this is not randomly done. (It's a pregame thing apparently.)

Given that, I genuinely don't know the strength of my role. When I confirmed I said "so something between gunsmith and rolecop in strength, I guess", which is about my estimation. It's hard to say, I don't think anyone can really know until we see the whole setup.


My role PM specifies I'm limited in who I can target. (This is the wording I'd expect RR to have.)

I can't target the same player twice (not 'twice in a row', twice at all--once is it). (This part is obviously specific to me.)

But, some things can prevent me from targeting a player. (This is the wording I'd expect RR to have.)

I'll be informed in the event of that. (This is passable as specific to me, given I am an investigative.)


Radical Rat's claim lacking the "limited in who you can target" and "some things can prevent you from targeting" sections, is why I think their claim is suspect.

I'm afraid that's it. I warned you it wasn't groundbreaking, but I've gotten all my thoughts out and shared my info and why I think it implicates RR so I'm done now.

She did.

So then MMR is scum trying to take out two people who they believe are not aligned with them or they’re town.

I kinda want Mastina and MMR to sort themselves out.

There’s no reason they can’t check each other or be forced to check the same target,

[MathBlade]

In contrast PPR is demonstrated an unwillingness to cooperate and the other two slots have cooperated even if it’s poorly.

[MathBlade]

I think all three quite frankly have a chance of being scum here and it’s just picking.

Both of you should be prepared to share your result regardless of PPF flip and assume you will get a limited post or two before I fire between you depending on PPF flip.

[MathBlade]

Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.

[MMR]

Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.

Got that.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
-Rubella

[Scarfmanship]

MMR, you are able to check someone tonight, right?

[Scarfmanship]

Would you be willing to do someone like tbone/myself/enchant tonight? Or like, ydrasse?

[MathBlade]

Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.

Got that.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
-Rubella

I think Mastina is genuine true claiming here regardless of alignment.

When scum Mastina pushed me only a limited set of roles would make me back off.

So I don’t doubt her claim.

Just like ironically enough with how bad you’ve played this I don’t doubt your claim.

What I doubt are your alignments.

[MathBlade]

So I think forcing you and Mastina to spew gives people information to work off of especially if I die.

[MathBlade]

How I think the setup works is each scum team has an astrologer or invest PR to find scum.

MMR scum probably got some sort of invest that makes them think PPF is scum.
Mastina would be the scum invest here

PPR is probably some important scum role.

[MathBlade]

I don’t know for certain but this is what I feel matches everyone’s play.

[Radical Rat]

Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.

Got that.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
-Rubella

Didn't you say you were informed scum had a near identical role? Why would your conclusion be mastina's Town because she isn't fakeclaiming instead of her being scum because she's you? Also Loyal isn't in your name, but Limited IS in mastina's. That discrepancy seems important to me.

It really does just look more and more like you don't believe your own claim...

[Scarfmanship]

yes I am on the same page and have been saying this for many pages, also ignore my last 2 posts, was hoping mmr would actually respond to me but lol imagine

[MMR]

Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.

Got that.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
-Rubella

Didn't you say you were informed scum had a near identical role? Why would your conclusion be mastina's Town because she isn't fakeclaiming instead of her being scum because she's you? Also Loyal isn't in your name, but Limited IS in mastina's. That discrepancy seems important to me.

It really does just look more and more like you don't believe your own claim...

It's because Loyal is embedded in the role.
And yes, I said that scum had a near identical role, but that doesn't mean that only mastina can be it.
I just doubt scum claims a CCable flavour.
-Rubella

[MathBlade]

Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.

Got that.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
-Rubella

Didn't you say you were informed scum had a near identical role? Why would your conclusion be mastina's Town because she isn't fakeclaiming instead of her being scum because she's you? Also Loyal isn't in your name, but Limited IS in mastina's. That discrepancy seems important to me.

It really does just look more and more like you don't believe your own claim...

It's because Loyal is embedded in the role.
And yes, I said that scum had a near identical role, but that doesn't mean that only mastina can be it.
I just doubt scum claims a CCable flavour.
-Rubella

Who are your TRs? Outside of Mastina and PPF and me?