In post 3983, MMR wrote: In post 3979, Scarfmanship wrote:So this is where I reveal my shifty eyes: MMR, you said you are able to check someone tonight. When you roleclaimed you can check one person each night.
The next phase is not night. It's noon.
It's per night. We are used to normal mechanics where night is every other phase; we cannot target this upcoming phase.
~Mumps
For the record, I feel obligated to say (the inner mastina is screaming at me to not but I would like to remind both her and y'all that I said I was done being mastina):
I actually am doubting MMR as scum from this post alone.
It might seem odd to doubt MMR as scum from this post alone, so I should clarify that it's not this post alone,
per se
, so much as it is, acknowledgement that there
are
reasons for MMR to be town (T-Bone has posted some, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow has posted some, maybe others?), and those explanations I recognize as plausible, and noted them myself.
It's not like everything MMR did was some 100% guaranteed always-scum thing; there were town and scum explanations for both, and there still are.
There's still scum explanations for this, and I can explain them if need be.
But it'd be dishonest for me to not acknowledge that there
are
town possibilities--and this post is, so to speak, a facilitator of them. (One part of that is that from my own role PM, with me essentially as an even-night astrologer, I
was
expecting there to be a town odd-night equivalent of my role. I thought that any role able to act the same night as me would be a scum counterpart to my role, which is both why I pushed MathBlade thinking he was claiming my role and a contributing factor behind the MMR push, but if MMR acts on odd nights, then that fills the niche I was expecting for a town role to be in, instantly producing doubt.)
I can explain the nuances of this stance if you prefer, but ultimately, it doesn't make me unvote for a simple reason:
Past Present Future is never scum here.
If the options are {MMR, PPF, mastina} for an elimination, I'm
never
letting PPF go through (I literally would rather let myself die), and I am not interested in letting myself die--which by default, leaves MMR as the only option.
Possible scum, versus guaranteed not scum. MMR has given me pause, MMR has given me doubt. This is not "I suddenly think MMR is town". MMR could still be scum. But they're far less scum to me than they were last night. If last night was 98%, they're down to around 20-40%: possible scum, but less likely scum.
I also recognize that people want to resolve in that pool today. Their desire to make it resolve today means there's probably going to be too much resistance to vote anyone outside those three names. They'll insist that this isn't going to go away any time soon, that the MMR vs mastina + PPF will still be here tomorrow, unresolved. So they will continue to hard push for resolving it today. Making attempts to eliminate someone outside those three nearly impossible.
So like. If those people can't be swayed, then I'm going to vote MMR because PPF is town and I am town so there's only one scum possible even though it is also possible to all be town.
But my preference now would be the scum fanning the flames of this, in the likes of {unwnd, furtiveglance, Firebringer}.
I'm keeping my vote on MMR, because, again: still
possible
scum, and possible scum has a higher chance of flipping scum than guaranteed not-scum (PPF/myself), but actually, my preference would in fact be the "don't resolve it today", because in the event it is three town, I'm not looking forward to the clownfest of three consecutive townflips.
The advocates for resolving it today will say it won't go away tomorrow. That we'll just start it up tomorrow again--but given that was the same logic used to try and push my mislim through yesterday, I'm disinclined to believe that logic and actually as I was writing this out I think I just talked my way into "fuck this" in regards to the people insisting on resolving this today because fuck that logic, it literally was what almost got me mislimmed yesterday so no, fuck that, we can afford to leave it unresolved.
VOTE: unwnd
