FFVII Mafia: Over

[christiano drago]

Undisputed claim from ages ago, only scummy behavior has been assuming that the mafia group with less members didn't kill [OMIGOD!] and your rather lynch me than Iam, despite his OBVIOUS lying about his role yesterday and putting town in jeopardy.

Well done, that man. *holds out spazzy hand*

[Jebus]

I wouldn't have voted you if not for this (post 1773):

Horseshit.

Assuming that Shinra were disabled out of three scumgroups tells me that you're thinking something like "Oh, I know that their kill didn't get through because (a) my group's kill got through or (b) my groups kill didn't get through."

1773 didn't exactly lighten anything :/

I'm perfectly happy voting Iam if you can explain this. Both of you are most definitely scum, though, in my eyes.

[CarnCarn]

Or the other scum team's for that matter.

or my investigation while we're at it.

Wait, you didn't get an investigation result?

[CarnCarn]

^^^I ask that because I thought I figured out a lot of what happened last night.

[christiano drago]

I said "Horseshit" because I felt your suspicion was exactly that.

I assumed Shinra's kill didn't go through because as was broached yesterday that might have been their final scum kill [having gone through on the death of Scarlet]. I'm simply carrying an idea forward from the day before.

[Yosarian2]

I'm perfectly happy voting Iam if you can explain this. Both of you are most definitely scum, though, in my eyes.

SO...you're going to vote for the guy with one possible scumtell over the guy who lied, claimed to be the turk cop and claimed a guilty result on the actual turk cop?

[CarnCarn]

Also, Carn is right, there seem to be a few missing kills. If anyone is a roleblocker who thinks they might have stopped a kill, you might want to claim today, before we lynch Iamusername.

Are you sure about this? I think a roleblocker should stay hidden until tomorrow, even if they have a "result." Why? Because they have a chance to prevent another kill, and we already have a lynch lined up for today.

[Jebus]

I said "Horseshit" because I felt your suspicion was exactly that.

I assumed Shinra's kill didn't go through because as was broached yesterday that might have been their final scum kill [having gone through on the death of Scarlet]. I'm simply carrying an idea forward from the day before.

Well, thanks for that then.

unvote
Vote: Iam

[CarnCarn]

I assumed Shinra's kill didn't go through because as was broached yesterday that might have been their final scum kill [having gone through on the death of Scarlet]. I'm simply carrying an idea forward from the day before.

Horseshit.

[Yosarian2]

Also, Carn is right, there seem to be a few missing kills. If anyone is a roleblocker who thinks they might have stopped a kill, you might want to claim today, before we lynch Iamusername.

Are you sure about this? I think a roleblocker should stay hidden until tomorrow, even if they have a "result." Why? Because they have a chance to prevent another kill, and we already have a lynch lined up for today.

Hmmm...I donno, with up to 3 killing scum groups, in a game this small, seems like the risk of the roleblocker dying tonight without sharing the key information might be too high. Yeah, we're goig to kill Iamusername today, but we still will need that information.

[christiano drago]

They each still have one kill per night, evident by the fact that despite Scarlet's death, there were still two scum killings last night [Scarlet and Wedge].

That actually doesn't prove that; players can shoot someone on the same night they died, so technically, Scarlet could have been the last Shinra member and shot Wedge. I don't believe for a second that that is the case, but there's nothing right now that definitely proves it isn't.

This.

I know it's from the mouth of scum, but it's what I read from yesterday that had me thinking this way.

Please remove your horseshit?

[CarnCarn]

Also, Carn is right, there seem to be a few missing kills. If anyone is a roleblocker who thinks they might have stopped a kill, you might want to claim today, before we lynch Iamusername.

Are you sure about this? I think a roleblocker should stay hidden until tomorrow, even if they have a "result." Why? Because they have a chance to prevent another kill, and we already have a lynch lined up for today.

Hmmm...I donno, with up to 3 killing scum groups, in a game this small, seems like the risk of the roleblocker dying tonight without sharing the key information might be too high. Yeah, we're goig to kill Iamusername today, but we still will need that information.

See, the strange thing is, Zakeri was blocked and there should logically be no reason for that. I don't think a protown RB would have done it, and there doesn't seem any reason for a Turk RB to do it either.
On top of that strangeness, I was

also

blocked (and I'm not lying this time; if I ever go back on this, lynch me). I had Kill on IAAUN, but it didn't go through. I'm not sure why a protown RB would target me, so my initial guess at daybreak, given the night info, was that the Turk RB blocked me, MBL protected me, and the Shinra tried to NK me. I'm not sure of this anymore, though, given Zakeri was blocked.

Please remove your horseshit?

There is basically no way Shinra would be a two-man scum group in a 25 player game. Citing obvscum comments as the basis for your thoughts doesn't help, either.

[christiano drago]

Three man scum group was my thinking. RB, Goon, Godfather. With the Godfather afraid of getting his hands dirty.

[CarnCarn]

Three man scum group was my thinking. RB, Goon, Godfather. With the Godfather afraid of getting his hands dirty.

Oh, but now you're backtracking since you first said that you assumed Scarlet was the final Shinra. This is more realistic but I don't see any reason for a GF to not kill anyone last night.

[christiano drago]

I was saying she was the final killer - in that the Godfather identified the targets and the goon and RB done his bidding. Is there not a Godfather role that essentially needs his subordinates to function? That was my thinking.

You may continue to seek your scum tells if you want but we're kind of delaying the inevitable IAUN lynch.

[Natirasha]

Vote: IIUN

Today, we lynch obvscum. Tomorrow, we go about everything else.

However, I would like Zakeri's results while we're at it.

[Elias_the_thief]

Day Five Votecount Numero Uno:

iamausername - 4

(

Christiano Drago, Yosarian2, Jebus, Natirasha

)

Jebus - 0

Zakeri - 0
Cephrir - 0
Grimmy - 0
Empking - 0
Natirasha - 0
CarnCarn - 0
Yosarian2 - 0
KaleiÃ

[Zakeri]

I was not blocked. There was a minor discrepancy that's been fixed now.

But I don't really believe it's true. Coupled with your general actions and attitude, your recent scum tell of knowing who it was that was blocked and stumbling around to try and make sense, and then how hard you tried pushing the ABR lynch as a good lynch in what I can only describe as an attempt to rescue CallMeLiam on day 2 ...

I'm pretty sure the reason I haven't been killed since my roleclaim was because I was inherently Pro-Town ever since Scarlet Died. The only person left would be Rufus, The Likely Godfather, correct? And as the godfather role goes, the Investigation results in seeing him as a townie right? I thought it was weird I managed to survive the last two nights but it makes sense when you think about it that way.

Anyway, I investigated christiano drago, but the result came as such a surprise to me since I have him completely pegged as Shinra. He turned up Innocent...

Vote: IAmAUserName

[Zakeri]

I was not blocked. There was a minor discrepancy that's been fixed now.

But I don't really believe it's true. Coupled with your general actions and attitude, your recent scum tell of knowing who's kill was blocked and stumbling around trying to make it sound like something town you, and then how hard you tried pushing the ABR lynch as a good lynch in what I can only describe as an attempt to rescue CallMeLiam on day 2 ...

I'm pretty sure the reason I haven't been killed since my roleclaim was because I was inherently Anti-Town ever since Scarlet Died. The only person left would be Rufus, The Likely Godfather, correct? And as the godfather role goes, the Investigation results in seeing him as a townie right? I thought it was weird I managed to survive the last two nights but it makes sense when you think about it that way.

Anyway, I investigated christiano drago, but the result came as such a surprise to me since I have him completely pegged as Shinra. He turned up Innocent...

Vote: IAmAUserName

grammar fixes, it should read better now.

[CarnCarn]

I was not blocked. There was a minor discrepancy that's been fixed now.

But I don't really believe it's true. Coupled with your general actions and attitude, your recent scum tell of knowing who's kill was blocked and stumbling around trying to make it sound like something town you, and then how hard you tried pushing the ABR lynch as a good lynch in what I can only describe as an attempt to rescue CallMeLiam on day 2 ...

I'm pretty sure the reason I haven't been killed since my roleclaim was because I was inherently Anti-Town ever since Scarlet Died. The only person left would be Rufus, The Likely Godfather, correct? And as the godfather role goes, the Investigation results in seeing him as a townie right? I thought it was weird I managed to survive the last two nights but it makes sense when you think about it that way.

Anyway, I investigated christiano drago, but the result came as such a surprise to me since I have him completely pegged as Shinra. He turned up Innocent...

Vote: IAmAUserName

grammar fixes, it should read better now.

Well, if you weren't blocked then my theory above still holds.
So, IAAUN is at L-2. I'm not sure if we will get anything more today, unless people think Yos2's plan about an RB claiming makes sense. He's right that, with possibly 3 NKs, it's possible we could lose the RB overnight, as well as any "result" they have.

[Cephrir]

This post does ot contain a vote for IAAUN so that we can avoid a selfhammer.

[Cephrir]

And that's what I get for not refreshing first. I suggest someone unvote if we're considering having this possible RBer come out.

CarnCarn, he's at L-1, not L-2.

[iamausername]

vote: iamausername

CarnCarn is Shinra, btw. Laters.

[CarnCarn]

Right. Cuz we totally trust you. I expect one of the teams will kill me tonight anyway, but your team was lucky I didn't vig you last night (well not really lucky; you obviously planned to RB me, but w/e).

[christiano drago]

I was not blocked. There was a minor discrepancy that's been fixed now.

But I don't really believe it's true. Coupled with your general actions and attitude, your recent scum tell of knowing who it was that was blocked and stumbling around to try and make sense, and then how hard you tried pushing the ABR lynch as a good lynch in what I can only describe as an attempt to rescue CallMeLiam on day 2 ...

I'm pretty sure the reason I haven't been killed since my role-claim was because I was inherently Pro-Town ever since Scarlet Died. The only person left would be Rufus, The Likely Godfather, correct? And as the godfather role goes, the Investigation results in seeing him as a townie right? I thought it was weird I managed to survive the last two nights but it makes sense when you think about it that way.

Anyway, I investigated christiano drago, but the result came as such a surprise to me since I have him completely pegged as Shinra. He turned up Innocent...

Vote: IAmAUserName

What a wonderful way to waste an investigation, Zak. Look at my reaction and change of pace after ABR was NK'd. I clearly changed the way I was playing because I realised how wrong minded I had been to push that vote; But there were more than a few townies on that Wagon over the course of the day, the only thing that set me apart from the ones that jumped over to CML nearer the end of the Day Phase is that I hate vote-hopping, it makes me feel like I'm clearly not acting on my own instincts.

That aside, all I should really need to focus on here is; My investigation came up clean and I was tracked and that came up clean too. Two roles have now looked in to me, and come up with "didn't move" or "innocent".

Someone will have to enlighten me as to whether or not a GF would have come up as not moving, since I'm not familiar with the tracker role [But I'd imagine since there was a goon being told to do the killing that It would show that I had spoken to someone or directed them to do something?].

But if you are going to start to build a case on me for tomorrow, I really suggest you start it on more steady foundations than; "You've been investigated twice and come up squeaky clean both times, you twat!"