Mini #138 Space and Sci Fi Mini-Mafia- FINALLY DONE!

[CoolBot]

I've never heard of an ambassador role. It seems to greatly weaken the scum in a game that already has plenty of town roles.

One problem I noticed in my plan; it takes Jedi claims it takes two nights to clone someone. Mafia will probably target him tonight to prevent any further revivials, and I doubt we have any more docs left. Finally, Jedi won't be able to hide in his ship if he's cloning someone.

[Crola]

from what I understand he samples DNA, I think the second night while it's processing he can hide id that right?

so, lynching IS might be a bad idea

Unvote IS

If we do lynch IS and Jedi is killed tonight, we lose both cloners, a risk I don't want to take

unless someone is a doctor, and will risk their life to tell us this, I don't see why we should destroy all chances of having a cloner

also, we can't hide in ships for two straight days, so if Jedi hid last night he can't hide tonight, in which case if he lives in the morning he has a better chance of being scum

Jedi, when did you last hide? You do not have to answer this, but if you're alive two days in a row, then I will suspect you of being scum

[CoolBot]

He claims he was the one to revive me, which means Jedi hasn't hid in the last two nights. At least, according to his role claim.

[jediknight]

Fair enough questions...

I have not hidden in my ship yet this game. The first night I extracted DNA from save the dragons. The second night I extracted from sycko. The third night I sucked dna from Coolbot. The fourth night I "simmered" (for lack of a better word...I prefer to think of myself with a bunsen burner or a crock pot!) us Coolbot back. There is no indication in my role whatsoever that my clones are evil. My role is explained as pro-town so I can only assume that my clones are pro-town as well.

I asked Vraak last night if I had to choose between performing a night choice and staying aboard ship. He told me that I did have to choose one or the other. My role only tells me that I can extract DNA from a person and revive them the next night. I don't know anything about this idea that I have stockpiles of DNA hanging around and when I went back to look for it I couldn't find it...perhaps I dreamed reading it. I can ask Vraak upon his return I suppose.

[jediknight]

I knew I wasnt crazy...

Jedi appears to be cloned several times, so killing him would be a waste, and also I saw Coolbot, so that clears Jedi...I think.

and...

I believe knowing that you have several clones is enough information to prove myself.

That being said...I'm not really sure what Sycko means by these two statements... What do you mean sycko?

[Crola]

wait, better question, how did Sycko know you had cloned already?

Okay, Jedi, you should have enough money to hide for the rest of the game(well, alot for that matter)

So you hide tonight, we lynch IS, (

Vote IS

)if he's good, then grab some DNA and clone
I doubt the Space station is a safe place for you, unless you're mafia, but at this point I'm going to trust you

[sycko999]

Jedi, when I investigated you I got a result saying many strands of the same person, and Coolbot, I guessed that meant if you died then you would be regenerated. I have see the ambassador type role, I was once one in a game, and it could be likely. Crola, he took my DNA, thast how he has me on file...I guess.

- Pug

[Crola]

Crola, he took my DNA, thast how he has me on file...I guess.

I'm not a cloner, how can I take your DNA?

[Crola]

wait, I think I misread that, or just didn't read the commas

my question was how did you know Jedi cloned at all, not if he'd taken your DNA or not
you completely avoided my question

[sycko999]

I don't even know any more...I've been feeling off lately so if I say somthing that makes no sense just question it and I'll make it make sense.

wait, better question, how did Sycko know you had cloned already?

I read that wrong, what the hell were you saying?

- Pug

[jediknight]

Who have you investigated Sycko? This is the first time that i've heard of you investigating me. So that's news to me as well.

I think you better explain your role a little better for us.

[sycko999]

Night 1-Crola=Fenix
Night 2 - innocent
Night 3 - Maximus=Thor
Night 4 - Jedi=Cloner
I don't know why night 2 I got innocent instead of a role, mabye no role.

- Pug

[CoolBot]

Hmm, Night 2 was the same night I only got innocent. I wonder if the results are related somehow.

[Crola]

Coolbot, can you show us the list of your investigations, I know you showed us a while back, but can you reshow them? mainly to pair it with Sycko's

Jedi, when I investigated you I got a result saying many strands of the same person, and Coolbot,

Sycko, I asked you 'how did you know that Jedi had previously cloned'?
You said your investigation showed you that Jedi cloned, is this true?

Jedi, Sycko says you may have cloned yourself, but according to you, you cloned a new individual each night, so why would he say you have many strands of DNA of the same person, and coolbot if you had a different person each night?

Sycko are you sure you know what you're saying?
Jedi, are you sure you cloned these people?

Jedi, can you clone yourself?

[Internet Stranger]

Nothing to add, this is bonkers.

[jediknight]

Each night previously I've extracted DNA from someone. I gave that list above so I will not repeat it. Except for the last night, when I reanimated Coolbot. I can extract DNA or raise the person that I extracted from the night before. I cannot, as far as I know, raise STD or Sycko at this point. I am under the impression from the PM that I must raise the person the very next night. So not sure where sycko's coming from at this point. I have only cloned one person and that was Coolbot.

As for cloning myself, I asked if I could extract DNA from myself the very first night. The answer was vague but I took it as a no. After all, who would "simmer" me if I was in the crockpot? LOL I will ask again when Vraak returns and hopefully get a straighter answer...at the time I asked it mostly as a joke.

It's amazing that I agree with IS on something. This is messed up... Two claimed cops...two claimed cloners...and no scum discovered by either of the claimed cops? Man, this is hard and annoying.

[jediknight]

One thing that I want to ask Sycko is:

Why did you investigate me when I there was already a mechanism in place to prove my role? At this point, and I am really hesitant to go back and read this thread as it is totally annoying me, but you're basing your "copness" on knowing Crola's name and that I had cloned before. I haven't cloned before last night so that makes your results suspect in my mind. I would have tested IS last night and I believe that was suggested by more than one person yet you tested me. Explain?

I don't want to read too much into things but perhaps IS targets someone and learns their role. He targetted me and learned I was a cloner? I don't know anything for sure anymore. All I know is that I am a cloner that is seriously considering hiding in his ship for a while.

One thought....and since we seem to be stalled I'll share it. I can extract and clone the next night (2 days to clone) and if IS is true then he has a fifty percent chance (2 days to clone by virtue of 1/2 percentage) then we could both be telling the truth. But I find that hard to believe cause what if Yaw got the role of IS's cloner? He always comes out on the top of coin tosses and percentage things. That makes the two cloner thing really unbalanced which is why I don't think there are two.

Right now Sycko is acting the most suspect to me and IS for stealing my role. I'd like a better explanation of how your roles work and what your results are sycko.

[sycko999]

I investigated you because I thought at the time you were acting more scummy(no real name, stealing IS's role claim). I plan to investigate IS if we don't lynch him, and Coolbot got innocent for him so I would have wasted my investigation.

- Pug

[Crola]

here's the list of who hasn't been examined by either Sycko or Coolbot and is still alive
Coron, IS, StD, DoomCow, Nanook the wolf (I think he's gone for a time, or lurking), and SinisterOVerlord

I've chosen at random one person from the list

Unvote, Vote Save The Dragons

Don't take this personally, it's just a random vote

I also wanted to point this out from Page One:

10 leaders of this revolutionary front have been selected by random fate alone to determine the outcome and the victor of the Space Wars.

Vraak X said this
I don't know if the post was always like this but we started with 12 and now have 10
(coolbot's name was posted 3 times on this page)
This could have been edited with the game, it may have been a mistake, or 2 people may have fake names, one being Jedi
just a possibility

can we get a votecount?

[Save The Dragons]

Last edited by Vraak X on Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:21 am; edited 13 times in total

Good job Crola...I think you're onto something. I'm willing to bet he is editing them...

But we won't get a vote count. Vraak is gone until the 21st, and he said he had a co-mod for every game, but I think he forgot about this one, or the co-mod did too.

Nanook is MIA. He hasn't shown up on the site for days.

Right now Sycko is acting the most suspect to me and IS for stealing my role.

While I won't deny that as a possibility, saying it with such certainty lifts my eyebrow.

No matter who is telling the truth, I think our cloners have become almost useless anyway. If they are telling the truth, they'll probably die before they get a shot in.

[jediknight]

I'm hiding in my ship... Let's see IS raise the dead. Since he's a cloner that hasn't done it in four nights with a fifty percent chance.

I'm not certain about anything STD...

[CoolBot]

I don't know if the post was always like this but we started with 12 and now have 10

I'm pretty sure the fact only ten are listed alive has nothing to do with the number of townies. Two people are dead, so they're not listed.

I also think it's a bit late to be random voting of any sort. Besides, is there any particular reason to lynch those investigated?

[Crola]

[quote]I also think it's a bit late to be random voting of any sort. Besides, is there any particular reason to lynch those investigated?[quote]
As of now, COolbot, there is no reason to lynch those who have been investigated, hence why I made a list of people who have the best chance of being scum
It's never too late to random vote, people only do it day one because they have no info yet
now that we have a list of possible mafia, we all pick and choose who we want to kill on the list, one of those people is bound to be mafia.

[Internet Stranger]

This doesnt sound right. Is Jedi changing the details of his role with every post in an effort to make me look bad?

So who do we want to lynch? Do we want to try StD? We do need to come to a concensus at some point,

[jediknight]

What did I change? I havent changed anything....sycko apparently is a little confused as to my role...but you better be able to support your statement with facts.