Megatheory wrote:K, let's work backwards a bit here. What do you mean by "serious vote?"
One with a serious reason for it... (I felt that was clear from before, but whatever)
@Megatheory - Now that you have an answer to this, could you explain what else charter could have meant by "serious vote"?
Braeden wrote:Everyone knows the more infamous properties on the Monopoly board, and I believe that special roles would go with the 'special properties.' (speculating here)
This makes sense. Also, there are enough properties to allow for scum to fakeclaim without too much risk of conflicting with an existing player.
(I will be away for three days in the coming week as my family and I are visiting my grandmother - Right now it looks like I will be away Monday morning to Wednesday evening but that can change - Sorry if this causes any problems.)
yawetag in Post 90 wrote:You [charter] state that by roleclaiming, both scum and town have fun analyzing the names, but it's "possible to tell the difference."
In a normal game where roleclaiming isn't done, both scum and town typically analyze what people say to make suspicions and votes.
charter wrote:
yawetag wrote:Would you now say that both of my statements are correct?
I suppose.
If roleclaiming has the same overall point as general scumhunting, why would we want to do it? It ends up giving more information to scum while keeping the townies at the same place (simple scumhunting).
unvote; vote: charter
for thinking it's a good idea.
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." --John F. Kennedy
If that's not a blatent twist of the actual facts, shoot me now.
It has the same overall point in that it helps catch scum. Once again, you are assuming that my suggestion has no protown benefit, you don't even care to see them. From past experience, scum got NOTHING out massnameclaim but town was able to catch them.
And did I say I don't want to do "general scumhunting"? No I did not.
So take your wrong assumptions, throw them out the window, and try again.
charter wrote:If that's not a blatent twist of the actual facts, shoot me now.
It has the same overall point in that it helps catch scum. Once again, you are assuming that my suggestion has no protown benefit, you don't even care to see them. From past experience, scum got NOTHING out massnameclaim but town was able to catch them.
And did I say I don't want to do "general scumhunting"? No I did not.
So take your wrong assumptions, throw them out the window, and try again.
I never said you didn't want to do "general scumhunting." However, when the thread is already full of analysis of players' normal chat, I don't think adding in the analysis of roleclaims is much help. My mind might change a few days from now, but right now looking for scum through chat is my best bet.
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." --John F. Kennedy
charter wrote:So you're admitting you're voting me for a bullshit reason then?
No, I'm voting for you for suggesting that roleclaiming was a good idea. As you can tell, I, and most everyone else, doesn't think it's a good idea.
My point was that roleclaim scumhunting would only confuse the normal scumhunting. This confusion is something scum would want.
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." --John F. Kennedy
And I'm saying that's a bullshit reason because you never once considered the benefits it might have. You just used my suggestion as an excuse to vote me.
And nothing about my suggestion or massnameclaim interferes with "normal scumhunting".
charter wrote:And nothing about my suggestion or massnameclaim interferes with "normal scumhunting".
Other than the added confusion, you're right.
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies." --Winston Churchill
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." --John F. Kennedy
I don't find advantages on nameclaiming, charter. Outguessing mod=likely mistakes=epic fail.
And, no; the reason you state to nameclaim are totally the same if we were playing normally. With the difference that scum will have 99% more possibilities for power rolefishing and it's more probable to lynch someone based on outguessing the mod.
Ok, since no one will listen to the reason I suggested it, either lynch me for a complete bullshit reason or drop it.
I wasn't advocating it to play outguess, I wasn't advocating it to replace scumhunting, I was advocating it to analyze how people reacted after we did it. That's how you catch scum, not playing outguess.
charter wrote:Ok, since no one will listen to the reason I suggested it, either lynch me for a complete bullshit reason or drop it.
I wasn't advocating it to play outguess, I wasn't advocating it to replace scumhunting, I was advocating it to analyze how people reacted after we did it. That's how you catch scum, not playing outguess.
Unfortunately, as I stated above, scum will have rolefishing sooo easy, still if you don't pretend to.
charter wrote:either lynch me for a complete bullshit reason or drop it.
Sounds like a challenge to me.
unvote, Vote: Charter
And an FoS to Yawetag, suggesting something that people turn out to not like is not a scumtell, it was the non-existent rolefishing that would be the scumtell. In this case, it was just an idea that may or may not have been thought through. So dependent tell at best.
