Medieval Mafia - Game Over

[Xylthixlm]

What? What? What?

My wagon APPEARED because of my joke.

They haven't gone away yet.

Where did that come from?

You were at L-2 before the "joke". That's some amazingly selective memory you have there.

Seriously. Why haven't we lynched stark yet?

[hasdgfas]

MOD:

CORRECTION: Xythlm is in violation of

RULE 3, SUBCLAUSE B

stark, why do you feel it necessary to ask for a modkill in thread?
I find that quite scummy.

Wow.
I wonder if you read stark's post.

Unvote

Vote: hascows

why yes, as a matter of fact, I did read stark's post. He asked for a modkill because of rule 3, which is "have fun, don't make personal attacks." I don't see anything there that's a personal attack or not having fun.
What in that post is worthy of a vote, if I may ask?

[Caboose]

why yes, as a matter of fact, I did read stark's post. He asked for a modkill because of rule 3, which is "have fun, don't make personal attacks." I don't see anything there that's a personal attack or not having fun.
What in that post is worthy of a vote, if I may ask?

I'm pretty sure stark meant that as a joke.
Trying to torque that into a scumtell is scummy.

[hasdgfas]

why yes, as a matter of fact, I did read stark's post. He asked for a modkill because of rule 3, which is "have fun, don't make personal attacks." I don't see anything there that's a personal attack or not having fun.
What in that post is worthy of a vote, if I may ask?

I'm pretty sure stark meant that as a joke.
Trying to torque that into a scumtell is scummy.

looks pretty serious to me

[hasdgfas]

why yes, as a matter of fact, I did read stark's post. He asked for a modkill because of rule 3, which is "have fun, don't make personal attacks." I don't see anything there that's a personal attack or not having fun.
What in that post is worthy of a vote, if I may ask?

I'm pretty sure stark meant that as a joke.
Trying to torque that into a scumtell is scummy.

looks pretty serious to me

and this is the exact same discussion we've been having. Did you vote Xyl, Tar, or whoever else voted/expressed suspicion for stark for his earlier "joke"?

[Xylthixlm]

why yes, as a matter of fact, I did read stark's post. He asked for a modkill because of rule 3, which is "have fun, don't make personal attacks." I don't see anything there that's a personal attack or not having fun.
What in that post is worthy of a vote, if I may ask?

I'm pretty sure stark meant that as a joke.
Trying to torque that into a scumtell is scummy.

I'm rolling on my bed laughing here.

Guys, can we stop discussing the joking thing? It's distracting from the fact that stark is a lying scumbag.

[Caboose]

The earlier mason softclaim had nothing around it to indicate it was a joke. stark's "request" for an Xyl modkill is so absurd that it looks like a joke.

Unless I'm "dense" and I can't read stark's posts correctly.

[hasdgfas]

The earlier mason softclaim had nothing around it to indicate it was a joke. stark's "request" for an Xyl modkill is so absurd that it looks like a joke.

Unless I'm "dense" and I can't read stark's posts correctly.

it doesn't look at all like a joke to me. He took posts of Xyl's and called out for a modkill. It looks completely serious to me. We apparently just have complete opposite views on this. As I have mentioned before(I think), I like looking at so-called "joke" posts or comments to find scum. Even if you think it's a joke, it's still really scummy to ask for a modkill.

[Kmd4390]

Warning! The post you are about to see quoted is scummy.

So I'm scum because other people are dense?

Let's go with "You're scum because of your callous disregard for how your joke would be interpreted".

Really? Making a joke and not realizing people will take it seriously is something that only scum do now? Really? Are you being serious right now?

Also, seriously guys. If you can't tell that Stark has been joking A LOT, there's something wrong.

[Xylthixlm]

This:

Vote Count:

9 to lynch

stark: 6 (Caboose, Tarhalindur, DrippingGoofball, populartajo, camn, Xylthixlm)

Preceded this:

I'm also confirmed town anyways.

But stark said this:

My wagon APPEARED because of my joke.

Now, the most charitable interpretation I can give that is that stark wasn't looking at the vote counts, didn't realize there was a bandwagon on him, and wrote his "Frustrating that I have to do a long post now" post for some other reason. In that case, he would just be totally useless as a townie.

The alternative interpretation is that he's a lying scumbag.

[Caboose]

The next person to make a joke will automatically be getting my vote.

[Xylthixlm]

Really? Making a joke and

not

realizing people will take it seriously

but posting it anyways

is something that

only

scum do now?

Yes.

[Kmd4390]

Really? Making a joke and

not

realizing people will take it seriously

but posting it anyways

is something that

only

scum do now?

Yes.

Um.

Why'd you cross out the word "only" if it's a scumtell?

But if you think he honestly EXPECTED that people would take it seriously and posted it anyway, how is THAT a scumtell?

Let's break this down. He has a joke. People will probably take it seriously. What's the expected result? Suspicion. Why would any non-jester role purposefully attract suspicion. And why would scum specifically do it? Or do you think he had another motive for it aside from attracting suspicion?

Basically, I don't follow you here.

[stark]

Rule 3 subclause B is "Have Fun"

Please calm down hasdgfas.

[hasdgfas]

Rule 3 subclause B is "Have Fun"

Please calm down hasdgfas.

stark: how was Xyl not following that rule?

[Xylthixlm]

Really? Making a joke and

not

realizing people will take it seriously

but posting it anyways

is something that

only

scum do now?

Yes.

Um.

Why'd you cross out the word "only" if it's a scumtell?

But if you think he honestly EXPECTED that people would take it seriously and posted it anyway, how is THAT a scumtell?

Let's break this down. He has a joke. People will probably take it seriously. What's the expected result? Suspicion. Why would any non-jester role purposefully attract suspicion. And why would scum specifically do it? Or do you think he had another motive for it aside from attracting suspicion?

Basically, I don't follow you here.

I think we've just established that a lot of people will give anything a free pass if they think it's a joke. If he could get the votes off him long enough for another bandwagon to build, and then later wave it off as a joke, that would be pretty good for him. Worst case? Some people unvote him and then revote, and everyone else says "it was just a joke, it's not scummy".

[stark]

Rule 3 subclause B is "Have Fun"

Please calm down hasdgfas.

stark: how was Xyl not following that rule?

I compiled a list of quotes to prove that point. Don't be so pedantic.

That was my second joke. I see I'm really bringing down the house. I hope I get nominated for funniest player next scummies.

[Yosarian2]

I think we've just established that a lot of people will give anything a free pass if they think it's a joke.

There may be a valid reason, somewhere, to be voting Stark. I donno. I do know that the "I am confirmed" thing is not a reason, at all.

You seem to be missing the point. It's not "If X is a joke it's not scummy", that's obviously not true. The point more was that "You completly misinterpreted his post, because you complely misunderstood what he was trying to say, now you're trying to attack him because of your mistake."

So, just explain this to me. Why is it you think Stark is scum?

[Yosarian2]

The next person to make a joke will automatically be getting my vote.

So, a 12 year old boy walks into a whorehouse, dragging a dead frog on a string...

[qwints]

I'm just posting to note that I was gone for the last three days - the hotel I was at didn't have free internet. I'll re-read as soon as I get the chance and post.

[crywolf20084]

The next person to make a joke will automatically be getting my vote.

So, a 12 year old boy walks into a whorehouse, dragging a dead frog on a string...

Hah..hahahah ahhaaaaaaaaahahaha

*whipes eyes* You are now my hero.

[stark]

The next person to make a joke will automatically be getting my vote.

So, a 12 year old boy walks into a whorehouse, dragging a dead frog on a string...

Hah..hahahah ahhaaaaaaaaahahaha

*whipes eyes* You are now my hero.

Q
F
T

Made my night.

[Xylthixlm]

You seem to be missing the point. It's not "If X is a joke it's not scummy", that's obviously not true. The point more was that "You completly misinterpreted his post, because you complely misunderstood what he was trying to say, now you're trying to attack him because of your mistake."

Are you missing the fact that the post which people "misunderstood" was not his post where he said "I'm also confirmed town anyways", but his second post where he repeated it?

So, just explain this to me. Why is it you think Stark is scum?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 53#1520653 not good enough?

[Xylthixlm]

Elaborate stark.

I'm also confirmed town anyways.

stark is town; i guarantee it.

So... stark made a comment which might have been a joke. Someone asked him to elaborate. And what did he do? He quoted his post together with sam.samhorn's post. That doesn't fit with the idea that his first post was a joke based on some witty banter that happened Feb. 12.

[populartajo]

You bastards. Beach weekend and you fill this thread with "jokes in mafia" analyzing.
With that said I really dont know what to think about stark. My initial reason for voting him was his near lynch vote WITHOUT analyzing qwints, that as I stated earlier, its not an optimal lynch. Then the wagon went crazy and stark defended in an unusual way.
About his joke, well, scum wouldnt softclaim masons with someone they know are town (unless sam is scum with stark). Maybe stark was softclaiming that sam would have an investigation on him and that he is a godfather. His joke, yeah, some of you are right, doesnt feel right but I think generating a case about it is a little exagerate. Tar is crazy or obv scumthere.
So I still think this statements are true : Caboose and sam are town. KMD, Xyl and DGB are neutral sligthly town. Qwints is neutral, some posts are looking protown but we dont have that much information on him. Stark is meh, I really cant read him. If he is scum he is doing a good job of not dropping scumtells during pressure. Crywolf, Tar and Farside lurker are neutral slightly scummy. And....

MOD:

CORRECTION: Xythlm is in violation of

RULE 3, SUBCLAUSE B

stark, why do you feel it necessary to ask for a modkill in thread?
I find that quite scummy.

This cow is so scum it hurts. I really think stark lynch is not the way to go with obvscum here.

Unvote Vote : Has.