Mini 742 Monopoly Mafia - Game Over!

[Gamma]

i needc replacement

my computer just shit out

again

dsdffdsdsd

unvote

for whoever replaces me

[Nightfall]

Oh hi Nightfall, how's the citation hunt coming along?

I'm sorry, there's a lot of games that I have been in that I'm trying to look over in a short period of time. I haven't found a specific example yet where a "joke vote bandwagon" has ended in a lynch, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened.

Just to point out too, of course now in the current situation most people on the "joke wagon" would post it was a joke, but if it built to a lynch people could claim it was a gut motivated vote or something like that.

I know I've seen games where there have been people lynched way too quickly though, and you can't be too cautious when it comes to avoiding situations where townies could do stupid things to harm the town.

[Alabaska J]

:/
No, but I think what he wrote is pretty straight forward.

Well then can you show me what he means?

Also, although it is total wifom i dislike gamma exit from this game very much, as his replacement certainly won't be able to explain his actions.

[StrangerSSK]

Stranger I'm terribly sorry, I just checked the Theme Queue..I'm gonna be up by tomorrow. So I'm gonna have my hands full with 3 games and I just got back in Survivor and my other mish mashs + modding. I can't take on this game as a faver.

Terrific >< Replacements are a pain in my neck right now (I don't know about MafiaSSK), but I'll try to get one...

i needc replacement

OK, ooba replaces you.

VOTE COUNT

Gamma (1): Alabaska J
Yawetag (1): Jebus

[StrangerSSK]

ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager.

[ac1983fan]

Alright, I've already quickly read through day 1 and fully read through day 2 so far.
I don't think the day 1 lynch of charter was particularly scummy. Nameclaiming would've helped the scum more than town.
I don't really understand the case on yawetag. I think it was obvious that it wasn't serious, and that charter had to ask was odd. While gamma's hammer was not scummy, his early proposal to wagon yawetag to "change his mind" seems, if not scummy, rather unorthodox. Jebus's blindly following gamma is much more scummy in my mind, but it's hard to take anything from the first couple of pages too seriously. However, his only day 2 post makes a very bad (IMO) case on yawetag, so

fos: jebus

.

[ooba]

Hi.

Will post as soon as I give this a read ..

[Nightfall]

Oh hi Nightfall, how's the citation hunt coming along?

In the house of mirriors game I'm in we're at l-3 because Zwet posted a
lot of shocked emoticons...

-site removed- First Warning.-SSK

[Spolium]

You said

I've been in numerous games where innocent
townies have been lynched on not so serious band wagons.

so I would like you to cite the thread(s) which address this claim, if you please.

[Alabaska J]

Oh hi Nightfall, how's the citation hunt coming along?

In the house of mirriors game I'm in we're at l-3 because Zwet posted a
lot of shocked emoticons...
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5&start=50

As a rule, you shouldn't cite ongoing games.

[Jebus]

Alright, I've already quickly read through day 1 and fully read through day 2 so far.
I don't think the day 1 lynch of charter was particularly scummy. Nameclaiming would've helped the scum more than town.
I don't really understand the case on yawetag. I think it was obvious that it wasn't serious, and that charter had to ask was odd. While gamma's hammer was not scummy, his early proposal to wagon yawetag to "change his mind" seems, if not scummy, rather unorthodox. Jebus's blindly following gamma is much more scummy in my mind, but it's hard to take anything from the first couple of pages too seriously. However, his only day 2 post makes a very bad (IMO) case on yawetag, so

fos: jebus

.

It wasn't at all a bad case, though if you think so please point out where/why.

Also, my 'blind' following of Gamma on the Yawetag wagon was for pressure wagoning, because I thought he was somewhat scummy then. This is still the case, I still want to pressure wagon.

[ac1983fan]

Alright, I've already quickly read through day 1 and fully read through day 2 so far.
I don't think the day 1 lynch of charter was particularly scummy. Nameclaiming would've helped the scum more than town.
I don't really understand the case on yawetag. I think it was obvious that it wasn't serious, and that charter had to ask was odd. While gamma's hammer was not scummy, his early proposal to wagon yawetag to "change his mind" seems, if not scummy, rather unorthodox. Jebus's blindly following gamma is much more scummy in my mind, but it's hard to take anything from the first couple of pages too seriously. However, his only day 2 post makes a very bad (IMO) case on yawetag, so

fos: jebus

.

It wasn't at all a bad case, though if you think so please point out where/why.

Also, my 'blind' following of Gamma on the Yawetag wagon was for pressure wagoning, because I thought he was somewhat scummy then. This is still the case, I still want to pressure wagon.

The main points of your case are that he wasn't willing to answer a dmb question until his much less dumb question was answered and that he was strongly against the nameclaim. I fail to see how that is scummy.

[Alabaska J]

mod i quoted his post you might want to remove the link form mine too

[pacman281292]

grr... I HATE THOSE F*****G INTERNET DEVICES!!!
Back. Rereading in process (still when there is not so much stuff to readd... stupid inactivity )

[Alabaska J]

This game seems to be going by really slow. time for some more analysis!

[Jebus]

This game seems to be going by really slow. time for some more analysis!

Please do, I'd like to hear yours.

[Nightfall]

This game seems to be going by really slow. time for some more analysis!

I'm looking for games to back up my point...
It takes a while to read through multiple games...

[Grimmy]

Ive been checking in, but nothing is really going on, so Im dealing with my RL work in the meantime.

Grimmy
checking in

[ac1983fan]

Well, nothing's going to go on unless people do something.

So I guess I'll be that person.

fos: alabaska J

Don't ask for analysis but not post any good content yourself.

vote: grimmy

You're only long post is just speculation on the flavor that corresponds to roles, which isn't really to useful. Other than that, you've made six posts, two of which were joke posts, one was explaining a joke, and one was your 'checking in' post. That leaves two posts which I would consider semi-useful. There has been plenty of stuff for you to comment on, why haven't you done such?

I still find jebus scummy, but if grimmy's play so far isn't anti-town and/or scummy, I don't know what is.

[Jebus]

My case may be a bad case relative to one that would appear in a game of longer duration and size, but it's still a case, and I doubt I could make a stronger one on anyone at the moment.

I'd like to see what you've got on Alabaska. If you think my case on him is bad, why's yours okay, and what makes it stronger?

Also, the Grimmy seems more of lazy than scummy to me. It is scummy, I agree, but not as scummy as Yawetog and Alabaska have been.

[Nightfall]

You said

I've been in numerous games where innocent
townies have been lynched on not so serious band wagons.

so I would like you to cite the thread(s) which address this claim, if you please.

I have been unable to find games to back up my claim.
But I stand by what I said. I know I've seen innocents
lynched for stupid reasons. There's a (likely) chance it
wouldn't have happened here, but it

could have

and that's why I didn't like the "joke" bandwagoning.
The wagon also appeared really clique like, almost like
a lynch on site metagaming thing which didn't sit right with me.

[Alabaska J]

It seems to me like nightfall and spolium are really splitting hairs. i think he was just warning of a quicklynch and wouldn't look into it unless the person who would have been lynched turns up scum and one can make a case for him being his scumbuddy. right now though, i think it is pointless.

[ac1983fan]

My case may be a bad case relative to one that would appear in a game of longer duration and size, but it's still a case, and I doubt I could make a stronger one on anyone at the moment.

I'd like to see what you've got on Alabaska. If you think my case on him is bad, why's yours okay, and what makes it stronger?

Also, the Grimmy seems more of lazy than scummy to me. It is scummy, I agree, but not as scummy as Yawetog and Alabaska have been.

I never said your case on alabaska was bad, I said your case on yawetag was bad.

[Spolium]

Frankly, I think there's more to it. Contrast what Nightfall said here:

I've been in numerous games where innocent townies have been lynched on not so serious band wagons.

With what he said immediately after I requested a citation:

When I get a chance I'll look over some past games and see if I can find something.

I'm sure it must have happened in mafia history though.

What started as a confident claim based on direct experience rapidly retreated into the realms of "

well, I'm sure it happened at

some point in Mafia

". More recently, he has bounced back to a comfortable mid-way point:

There's a (likely) chance it wouldn't have happened here, but it

could have

and that's why I didn't like the "joke" bandwagoning.

So basically I can't ask any more of him without expecting him to sift though every game he's ever played, but whether or not he experienced it personally it

could have

happened AND THAT IS THE POINT.

No, I don't like that one bit; nor do I like the fact that he was subtly taking pot shots at charter without committing to a vote throughout D1.

vote: Nightfall

[pacman281292]

aaargh stupid homework

still rereading. sorry for active lurking; needs time to reread better