Mini 760 - Bleach Mafia: Karakura Town - Game Over!

[PhilyEc]

I apologize. Expect content later today.

That was yesterday, please post something sustantial soon, as you can see we're in need.

[OhGodMyLife]

Vote Count:

7 to lynch

zwetschanwasser: 2 (LynchHimNotMe, GLaDOS)
Gorrad: 1 (ZEEnon)
GLaDOS: 1 (GhostWriter)
Giuseppe: 1 (Green Crayons)
Seraphim: 1 (zwetschanwasser)
GhostWriter: 1 (Seraphim)
Korlash: 1 (Korlash)
Albert B. Rampage: 1 (PhilyEc)

Not Voting: 3 (Gorrad, Giuseppe, Albert B. Rampage)

[zwetschenwasser]

It's not a contradiction. I'm still trying to decide whether or not Phily is scum. I won't vote for Green Crayons until I do.

[GLaDOS]

... Processing ...

How is voting Seraphim better than voting Green Crayons?

What prevents you from voting a player you think is scum if you are not sure of the alignment of another player?

By your logic, what prevents from saying:

I don't think Phily is scum, but now I want to wait and see if I think [Insert Subject Name Here] is scum.

In theory, you could continue doing this until you claim to know whether

everybody

is scum. Quit your stalling.

[OhGodMyLife]

Seeking replacements for GhostWriter and Gorrad.

[Gorrad]

I'm here! Sorry. When I got back, I forgot to add this to my watched topics list. Reading through tomorrow, most likely.

[OhGodMyLife]

Gorrad got back before any replacement was found (unsurprisingly, since its been less than an hour) so he stays. Still seeking a GhostWriter replacement.

[ZEEnon]

Sorry, I'm really behind in the game, I will try to catch up.

Thoughts: Both of Giuseppe's initial votes were both based on previous games.

(+1 SP)

Since when do random votes need "justification"?

Random votes are usually given with a random explanation.
I think that is what he is referring to.

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Assuming item X is my move to reveal meta of LHNM.

Although one of the quick hammers he preformed was once on me,
I do not think that this should be held against him in future games, including this one.

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Vote Zeenon

for doubting LOLCAT logic.

I didn't state that I doubted it. I said to watch out for it.

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Can we carry a separated thread of conversation on Bleach?

I'm not quite sure which Bleach character is my favourite.
I do like Ichimaru Gin, but i think I like Rangiku Matsumoto.
Yachiru is pretty cute though, I must admit.

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I think I know why you're voting for Green Crayons, Glados. And IF its for the same reason(s) as to why I'm suspicious of him then you're pretty quick to notice. The fact that you dont want to reveal your reasons yet further makes me think we're on the same line of thinking here.

I'm not sure how to explain this, but this post seems so wrong on so many levels.
Does this post not seem like you are 'buddying up' or agreeing with something you both somehow collectively know?
I acknowledge that later in the game you explain yourself, but I find this post really suspicious.

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Why should others "think up" reasons to vote for Green Crayons? Your posts sound disingenuous.

This post makes a lot of sense actually.
PhilyEC, why would you not state your reasons for voting instead of getting other people to try and determine them?
If someone else comes along with an excellent agrument, it allows you to just state "Oh, I thought that too!"

(+1 SP)

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I really understand the argument made by GLaDOS in post 139. It makes sense, and I can follow it. For Zwetschenwasser,

(+1 SP).

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Unvote, vote PhilyEC

Blatant OMGUS.

[Korlash]

Yay Gorrad I was afraid you would miss the train!

So my interet problems seem to have resurfaced but hey, whatever. i'll deal with it.

When I sign up to play a 12-player game, I expect to see twelve players. This game has fallen far short of that expectation. Even some people who have been posting I would not call "players" for their lack of contribution to the game.

Then you are on the wrong site sister. I don't think I've been in a game yet that hasn't required at least 1 replacement at some point and time.... Well maybe I have and I just don't remember. Although I love to see as many posts from players about the lack of contribution from others as those posts themselves are so awesome in the "contribution" department.

I have earned my title.

Yes, that is kinda the point with titles. Last I checked they weren't some bingo night door prize given out to the first chick to get 5 straight red dots.

Although I really love how you think being you excuses you from explaining and clearifying things.

I've decided to get back into the game. I will take no questions for the moment.

What a perfect way to get back into a game.

So you're saying that there were no suspicions you had about Phily prior to his vote on you?

No.

First off, does anyone else think Erg0Green would be a great name for some industrial cleaning solution?

Also would you mind pointing out what and where these suspicions are for us deaf and dumb people like me that need constant reassurance? Or do you still need time to find something that sounds remotely good enough to pass off? I would think seven pages isn't that hard to manufacture a sutable answer.

It's not a contradiction. I'm still trying to decide whether or not Phily is scum. I won't vote for Green Crayons until I do.

... Why should Phily have anything to do with a vote on Green? Are you incapable of voting one player and still questionin another? Are you a person who believes that once you vote you aren't allowed to change it later? If you have reason to vote green, do it while you wait so you might be able to have something come of whatever it is you suspect green of.

And unless I'm mistaken your last... 4-5 posts deal primarily with green, what the hell are you waiing on Philly for? Did you ask him a question 2 pages ago and just forgot to bring it up again or do you think Philly will just come out and say something to catch your fancy? Saying you are trying to figure out if so and so is scum while not actually doing anything along the lines of, you know, trying to figure out if he is scum, is bull shit. have you even commented on anything Philly has posted? have you asked him a single question? Have you responded to anything about him at all? Ever? And yet somehow you vote on Green is influenced by this so called non-existant scum hunt process you aren't doing with Philly?

Yeah ok,

Unvote:, Vote: zwetschenwasser

You can't be trying to decide if Phily is or is not scum without interacting with him in some way.

[PhilyEc]

Wow strange night, two people returned

@Zeenon

LOLCAT logic vote on you was a joke vote, thought that would be obvious =P

I acknowledge that later in the game you explain yourself, but I find this post really suspicious.

Later explain myself? I prove I have reason to doubt Green Crayons by providing what are obviously written up notes on him after people make it obvious I should just spit it out, after I 'explained myself' scrutiny over the post you mention vanished and for good reason.

PhilyEC, why would you not state your reasons for voting instead of getting other people to try and determine them?

I believe the second Albert came under scrutiny he curled up into a defensive little ball and began firing out craplogic claims to seem more like a poor player rather than have to answer questions. Perhaps hes not good at defending himself or perhaps he doesnt want to allow too much attention to come his way this early. I'll post some of the quotes that make me feel like this;

PhilyEc, your most recent squander, coupled your suspicious behavior outlined in the quote below, have shown us how little you understand the game.

I will now ignore you entirely until you post something of value.

My oh my, someone doesnt want the spotlight put under him alright. Its okay Albert, your avoidance will be accepted instead of a respectable post. (you're still due at least one)

Vote Albert

If you're town, ignoring someone questioning you will never vice well, if you're scum, thank you.

Unvote, vote PhilyEc

What I like about Giuseppe's last post is how he's shown that he doesn't pretend like he knows what he's doing, different to PhilyEc, who knows very little about what he's doing, but likes to show off a whole lot.

What's that? Did you guys hear something? Maybe just the wind

Unvote

I've decided to get back into the game. I will take no questions for the moment.

Last quote makes me wonder, what happened to make him unvote? He seemed pretty serious about that OMGUS, could it have been an emotionally driven vote instead of a reasonable one?

I'm happy with where my vote lies ZEEnon.

[OhGodMyLife]

Xtoxm replaces GhostWriter. Thanks, Xtoxm!

[Green Crayons]

I would like wasser to take a few minutes to explain his posts as if we were five years old. Since apparently he thinks his posts make an obvious amount of sense but there are several of us who do not, either he's a scumbag trying to minimize suspicion before the ball gets rolling or he's town bad at explaining himself. His responses so far - which are more one-liners than true explanations - are only making me grow more suspicious all while I still fail to see how his posts were making any sort of sense.

Also, Albert: ...What? So, what suspicion did you have re: Phily prior to his vote on you (I skimmed your posts but didn't really see anything). Why did you say your title fits?

[zwetschenwasser]

Why should Phily have anything to do with a vote on Green? It doesn't
Are you incapable of voting one player and still questionin another? Yes, if I believe the player I'm temporarily voting for isn't my lynch target
Are you a person who believes that once you vote you aren't allowed to change it later? No.
If you have reason to vote green, do it while you wait so you might be able to have something come of whatever it is you suspect green of.
And unless I'm mistaken your last... 4-5 posts deal primarily with green, what the hell are you waiing on Philly for? It's called observing his posts. You should try it.
Did you ask him a question 2 pages ago and just forgot to bring it up again or do you think Philly will just come out and say something to catch your fancy? No. I didn't ask him a question. So yes, I do think Phily will come out and say something to catch my fancy.
Saying you are trying to figure out if so and so is scum while not actually doing anything along the lines of, you know, trying to figure out if he is scum, is bull shit. have you even commented on anything Philly has posted? No. It interferes with my observation
have you asked him a single question? No. It interferes with my observation
Have you responded to anything about him at all? No. It interferes with my observation
Ever? No. It interferes with my observation
And yet somehow you vote on Green is influenced by this so called non-existant scum hunt process you aren't doing with Philly? I'm not voting Green because he's not a lynch target for me at the moment. I'm scum hunting by observing Phily's posts, partially because of a gut feeling about him. I'll question him when I have something to question him about.

[PhilyEc]

@Zwet
Nice, you made a post consisting of paragraphs (first from you that I've seen). One question. Are you observing the rest of the town as well or only me?

[zwetschenwasser]

You. It's a gut feeling.

[Korlash]

So in other words you're a worthless player who is actively lurking? Perfect! Love my vote.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I find zwet 164 scummy.

Vote: zwet

[Gorrad]

Read through. Notable thoughts:
GLaDOS is probably town. I'd bet on ABR-town too.
Scumvibes from PhilyEc. Also, birthday vibes. Happy birthday!
Korlash is Korlash. And awesome. Dunno about allignment.

Scummy actions I'll admit. 'Lying' is never good.

This is completely incorrect, and hypocritical. LALAL.

Vote: Giuseppe

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[VoteAnyoneButMe]

scummy 167

Vote:Gorrad

[PhilyEc]

Thanks Gorrad, oh and Zwets, considering you're playing so many games, is this the reason you've decided to observe only one person? If so, what exactly did I do that caught your eye?

@Giuseppe
Any idea of who here seems most scummy? I'd really like to know what you're thinking right now (understands you're V/LA but I think you'll see this question later).

@LHNM
Seems like an opinion of Giuseppe rather than a scummy move, could be seen as a pre-emptive strike to start a wagon effect but I dont see that happening anytime soon. That would be taking a leap to assume though. A vote seems inappropriate, even scummy in its own sense.

@Gorrad
Following the lynch all liars principle? "completely incorrect, and hypocritical" to him admiting lying is scummy and never good? Seems very correct to say such a thing in his case, though hes basically agreeing with people that what he did deserves a vote. What you've left out is his defense that hes not good with defending himself in the first place.

I think claiming to be poor at your defending yourself is okay, but lying to do it? Either he paniced or else its another lie. This would seem more appropriate to vote towards.

[PhilyEc]

EBWOP: @LHNM:
Seems like an opinion of

Gorrad's

(Apologies, I was referencing as I typed the post, never read it back)

[zwetschenwasser]

Corniness was intended.

FoS

on non speaky people. I dont wanna be dragging lurkers from the shadows when this game is big on players. Could result in them not being noticed.
And yes Guiseppe I stole this theory from you from ze other game~

This has been bothering me since the beginning of the game. You seem too eager to prove to us that you're town.

[PhilyEc]

It was a poke up backsides to get people talking, I was mimicing what Giuseppe did in our other game because I liked the idea. Must admit, it didnt seem to be effective, if I'd waited a while till those 3 werent posting then maybe it would've been more appropriate but couldnt see that coming, anyways, it wasnt a protown effort. I hate people who dodge D1. Theres a fair amount of it going on here in my opinion.

[zwetschenwasser]

That's not the point. I've been observing you because of my discomfort with this early post.

[PhilyEc]

You seem too eager to prove to us that you're town.

Thats your point. (I seem to want to prove im town early)

it wasnt a protown effort. I hate people who dodge D1. Theres a fair amount of it going on here in my opinion.

Thats my intention basically. To elaborate, those who dont post make the game less interesting.

That's not the point. I've been observing you because of my discomfort with this early post.

Thats your point. (You're discomforted by the fact that I look like I'm trying to prove I'm town)

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So how is my explanation of my intent 'not the point'? Thats like casting it off as irrelevant when it directly answers your suspicions.