Mini 164: Rock Paper Scissors Mafia - Game Over

[vikingfan]

Good point. I could VERY easily see this being a game where nobody wins because no one is alive at the end.

On the other hand, doc protection will be huge. I would expect that if someone from one tribe protects someone being attacked by each of the other tribes, then that person will be killed. If the person is double-attacked and double-protected, the person would survive, right?

[vikingfan]

Oh, and are we allowed to do "Bah" posts or not?

[Fuldu]

Good point. I could VERY easily see this being a game where nobody wins because no one is alive at the end.

On the other hand, doc protection will be huge. I would expect that if someone from one tribe protects someone being attacked by each of the other tribes, then that person will be killed. If the person is double-attacked and double-protected, the person would survive, right?

That last paragraph is correct. One doc protection will prevent one kill. Two doc protections would protect against two kills, but with only three teams that's not actually possible. One of the protectors would have to be on a team with one of the killers, at which point he'd just be killing along with them.

As for the first paragraph, it's actually harder to do than you think. And there are mechanisms in place to address that eventuality.

[Fuldu]

Oh, and are we allowed to do "Bah" posts or not?

You can, but as usual, no information should be contained in them.

[Mgm]

[quote="Fuldu]Any non-killing night choices that target a player being killed by another team will function as a doc choice.[/quote]
How exactly does this leave any choice to be cop investigations? Here, you said all non-killing choices are docs.

[Narninian]

Not sure you understand correct, let me say how I interepret:

3 Results

A) Your target gets targetted by 50% or more of your family's night choices.
The target Dies.

B) Your target Does not get targetted by% or more of your family's night choices.
B1) Your target get 50% or more of

another

family's night choices - you prevent them from dying.

B2) Your target does NOT get 50% or more of any family's night choices. You get an investigation of that target.

Is this correct Fuldu?

[thrawn1020]

From what I read, that sounded right Narninian.

[Fuldu]

Narninian's interpretation is correct. Another way of looking at it is that no choice that functions as a doc choice will be wasted. Docs will always protect individuals who were attacked, because if the individual isn't attacked, the targeter won't be functioning as a doc.

[Fuldu]

That looks like enough discussion, then. Night One falls and will end Friday at 9:00 PM GMT. Since there aren't any groups discussing at night, I'm going to try to keep them short.

[Fuldu]

Except that I've only just now remembered to change the Subject of the thread to Night One, so there are some players who probably think we're still in Pregame. Deadline is shifted 24 hours further on to give them time to notice and send choices.

[Fuldu]

Good morning. It seems the night was a calm one, as no one is dead. All living players should always receive a dawn PM telling them what they did during the night. If you didn't this morning or don't on any subsequent morning, PM me and I'll fix it.

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

[Coron]

Thrawn is scum scum scum

Vote Thrawn

[thrawn1020]

Yeah, and so is everyone else.

Vote Darklight140

[Locus Cosecant]

Thrawn is scum scum scum

Vote Thrawn

Makes sense to me.

vote Thrawn

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[Coron]

So, would this count as pro-town for him or not? Probably not.

[pwnz]

Hell.. I'm going to kill scum no matter who I vote for, eh?

Thrawn

[Coron]

also, do they count as correct lynches

[Locus Cosecant]

This isn't a game of mafia, and, as such, does not go on my record.

[Coron]

This is totally a game of mafia no matter what you say.

[Mr. Flay]

It's not a game of mafia in the conventional sense, as there's no town, and we're only an uninformed majority until we get to the point where we're sure of who is on our side, then we act like silent mafia. The fact that it uses the same mechanisms as a mafia game doesn't make it so.

Vote: Coron

as he seems pretty gung-ho on killing Thrawn right off.

[Coron]

My read on Mr. Flay is that he's scum too, I'd vote for him, I think scum is following me too so I must be wrong,

unvote

[Save The Dragons]

K, just because it's got a bunch of special goodies added to it, doesn't mean it's not a game of mafia. If you take a scoop of vanilla ice cream, add some chocolate sauce and some candies, and then put a scoop of peanut butter on it, is it not a sundae just because people don't traditionally put scoops of peanut butter on sundaes?

I'd just say if you think it screws up your record, just don't count it. No one will care.

And now what do we do with the lynch? Do we bandwagon everyone for claiming? We might as well just mass roleclaim. Why the hell are people going after Thrawn? Let's discuss why we lynch before we do. And as to why we are lynching, I really have no clue.

[Locus Cosecant]

However, a Salisbury steak is not a sundae, even if you put hot fudge sauce on it. Lynches and the like do not make mafia.

[Save The Dragons]

The like refering to...oh...mafia, right?

Bah, I'm not going any further than this.

[vikingfan]

To me, this IS a game of mafia-we are all mafia here, just of different branches. If you sign up for a game on mafiascum, it counts toward your record-though I personally don't care about my record and don't know what it is.

One wonders if lynching will really serve anybody's purpose as hardly anyone will know, at least today, whether they're killing somebody on their own side or not. Might it not be better to consider no lynching?
Plus, roleclaiming will not do much, as one quarter of this group will know who their comrade is, while the other 3/4 will want to kill him. Role claiming, IMO, does no good in this game.

Random vote Locus

, though I'm not sure if lynching serves everyone's purpose-there's a 1-in-3 chance of nailing your own team.