Saving Nasubi: Game over, Nasubi is Dead Long Live Nasubi

[Tenchi]

If he is going to continue to be a dick and not scumhunt, then we lynch. If he is going to start trying to play the game, we go from there.

I'd go this way too. But I guess after dealing a few other trolls in my other game, the best way to deal with it is to ignore (saves us a lot of pointless conversations on random things and the possible cussing), then lynch that person if there's no other viable option, or if it will be informative.

Ignoring the troll, gives the troll the time to calm down/get bored/get replaced. Any of which actually helps us.

[Tenchi]

totally. Scum all know 2 people who aren't Nasubi, too.

This statement worries me.

It can be interpreted two ways:

1. Scum know their buddies, and there is three of them.
2. Scum are working alone, but they know two other people who are innocent.

(Or maybe a combination of A and B, but that's unfair to one side)

Anyway, that level of specificity makes me think you know something related to how scum are operating in this game.

Nevermind. Post 188 explains it.

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Also, I am bothered by the Sajin wagon on Page 6. It went too fast, I don't know if it was all a joke or what but Zwet and Millar were confused, apparently both were expecting Sajin would be lynched.

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That same wagon happened just after the 142/145 controversial statement by Camn (see above).

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However, I won't blame Sajin for thinking that Camn could be scum after that statement. (see above) I assumed it like that until I read 188. I'm going to reread page 8 onwards tomorrow.

[DrippingGoofball]

Or 3. Scum are working alone, and don't know any innocent.

[elvis_knits]

I am working under the assumption that all they received was their scum partners for info. With 3 scum they would know 5(if they were all the same 2)to 9(if they were all different). 9 is way to many to know day 1 are not nasubi therefore I conclude that they DID NOT receive the additional notification of 2 non nasubi members.

You seem pretty sure about what the scum got in their role PM.

vote Sajin

[DrippingGoofball]

Sajin seems to have fallen into a pattern of arguing details with a small number of players.

I don't think anyone is particularly scummy in the exchange.

The sudden take off and subsequent derailment of the millar13 wagon worries me intensely.

I want millar13 lynched. ASAP.

[zwetschenwasser]

unvote

WTF? :-/

This bothers me. He's using the chaos of the moment to hop off a bandwagon without scrutiny (or reasoning), especially since he was the earliest proponent for a Sajin lynch.

[elvis_knits]

I am working under the assumption that all they received was their scum partners for info. With 3 scum they would know 5(if they were all the same 2)to 9(if they were all different). 9 is way to many to know day 1 are not nasubi therefore I conclude that they DID NOT receive the additional notification of 2 non nasubi members.

You seem pretty sure about what the scum got in their role PM.

vote Sajin

This is what the camn-sajin exchange reads to me:

Camn made some assumptions about the scum. Sajin knew she was wrong, since he's scum. Sajin is alluding to his extra info in an effort to make it look like camn is scum.

[zwetschenwasser]

...while Camn is alluding to her extra info to make Sajin look town.

[elvis_knits]

Where?

[DrippingGoofball]

unvote

WTF? :-/

This bothers me. He's using the chaos of the moment to hop off a bandwagon without scrutiny (or reasoning), especially since he was the earliest proponent for a Sajin lynch.

Good catch. I could kill Claus. And millar. Choices, choices.

[DrippingGoofball]

Camn made some assumptions about the scum. Sajin

knew she was wrong, since he's scum

thought she assumed with too much certainty. [semantic arguments].

[elvis_knits]

Camn made some assumptions about the scum. Sajin

knew she was wrong, since he's scum

thought she assumed with too much certainty. [semantic arguments].

Sajin is assuming with certainty too (MORE, IMO). Which is something that I would not expect him to do if he was town, given that he objects to camn doing the same thing.

[zwetschenwasser]

When I asked camn about the two non-Nasubi players she implied that sajin was a pro-town powerrole.

[elvis_knits]

Quotes or it didn't happen.

I didn't see that at all.

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't do quotes unless absolutely necessary. You should know that by now.

[Stephoscope]

Good catch. I could kill Claus. And millar. Choices, choices.

Now that I have stated that Sajin is not Nasubi, I think we need to go ahead with the Sajin lynch.

[elvis_knits]

Boo I didn't unvote

unvote; vote sajin

[farside22]

Ugh my head. millar did the fake hammer. Zwet is jumping between 2 BW's and sajin makes my head spin. I swear that the only sanity I have seen is DGB and that scares me.
Right now I like my vote were it is. Put seriously millar has a death wish.

[camn]

Quotes or it didn't happen.

Truest thing ever written.

It DIDN'T happen at all. Don't get me started, Zwet.. I am already grumpy.

[populartajo]

So when did this game start?

[camn]

Hello, sir. Nice to see you.

[populartajo]

Hello camn.

[populartajo]

After a quick reread, I can give you already a tempting one of my famous scumlists.

Prob town

Stephoscope
Sajin
DGB
zwet
Tenchi

Neutral

Fluff
Claus
farside
Seraphim

Prob scum

millar - terrible start and terrible "hammer". Interchangeable with Sajin, though.
camn - I dont get all the argument with Sajin but I really got protown vibes from Sajin.
Elvis - At first I was going to put her at neutral but then I realized that I dont have a town read from her which is a big flag, IMO.

Votecount, plz.

[shaft.ed]

Nasubi ponders brushing his teeth.

Vote Count:

Sajin

(6) camn, farside22, Stephoscope, millar13, zwetschenwasser, elvis_knits

millar13

(3) Llamafluff, DrippingGoofball, Seraphim

camn

(1) Sajin

Not Voting:

Claus, Tenchi, populartajo

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch or No Lynch

[populartajo]

Wait, what is the case on sajin?
I want everyone in the wagon to respond NAO.