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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:09 pm

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It may be hard to for you understand, but in Canada they have these education facitilies called
Schools
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People called
Students
attend these facilities to learn.
At these educational facilities, you can learn about various things. One such thing is
Time Zones
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Around the world, times differ depending on where you are located.
That means that the times people sleep vary as well.


I just got home, i'm making my role claim look all nice and presentable before you get to see it.



School - an institution where instruction is given
Student - a person formally engaged in learning
Time Zone - one of the 24 time regions or divisions of the globe
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:10 pm

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Korlash wrote:So you are subtley trying to coach Zee on his claim?
Are... are you serious? For starters, there's nothing subtle about me saying "Zee is the doctor because of x, y and z posts/tells/hints." How is it even processing in your brain that that is subtle? I'm blatantly saying what I think. I fail to see how you think it's coaching, as well.

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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:14 pm

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Zee, if you've got enough time to type post 700, you've got plenty of time to make a roleclaim. Unless you've got the most complicated role possible, which I highly doubt, you're stalling. So have a vote.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:15 pm

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Yes, i'm stalling when i'm the one role claiming with no pressure from anyone else.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:18 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:
Yes, i'm stalling when i'm the one role claiming with no pressure from anyone else.
If there was sarcasm in that, I didn't take it as such.
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:26 pm

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Are you a hollow?
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:39 pm

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Dang, you signed out.
I thought I could interrogate Jebus since this is the first time he has been active like.. ever.
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:03 pm

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ZEEnon wrote:
Are you a hollow?
No, I'm not.

Care to answer my question?
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:25 pm

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I love it when people pretend there is a question to be answered.
The only question you have asked this game:
Jebus wrote:Care to answer my question?
Anyways, do you normally lurk in games, or are you doing so in just this game?
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:31 pm

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Oh, sorry, I didn't post the question, it seems.

I was going to ask this - are you going to claim as you said you would, or not. And if not, saying so now would be helpful.

Also, on the lurking bit - I only lurk when I'm not caught up, or not around to post. Which tends to happen more often than I'd like.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:52 pm

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Almost done writing my post.
You've been a good distraction while I was writing it.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:56 pm

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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:24 pm

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Post By Post Analysis:
(The following are posts that I felt the need to post on)

GLaDOS wrote:ZEEnon, would you mind giving a compiled synopsis on why you suspect Korlash?
Not sure how to explain it, but when I read through his posts in isolation, he caught my eye.
I actually agree with his views early on. On day two however, he takes an opposite change.

Korlash wrote:So Vote: Zeenon for the doctor thing... yeah...
This is the only reason given on last day for voting me.
Never more does he mention a thing about me.
Although his vote sits in a comfortable spot and
does not change
,
even when he voices that Seriphim's role claim was not believeable like I had stated.
Korlash is not my main concern however.

In post 654, Gorrad completely changes my meaning of my first post on day two around.
Also, at the end of day two, Gorrad forgets if he was helping his partner or bussing him.

Mastin wrote:(epicmafia.com. I know ZEE's a player there as well. We've played a few matches here and there, I believe, a long time ago).
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Korlash wrote:I will say I targeted Gorrad one of the nights and if he had been able to tell me which night his latent abilities (if any) had been activated I could have thusly helped confirm him if and when i flipped town thus preventing the double mislynch GC seemed to be setting up.
Gorrad, you still haven't answered, athough it's clear to everyone what night you were targetted.
Also, not everyone might have a latent ability.

Jebus wrote:I'd prefer a Zeenon lynch, but since we're so close to deadline, Seraphim to avoid a no-lynch.
Explain please. You say this but have failed to give reasons or an explanation.

I suggest for everyone to read Jebus' posts in isolation, he is not to be overlooked.
Korlash wrote:So you are subtley trying to coach Zee on his claim?
Are you subtley trying to pair me with Green Crayons?


At this time, my suspicion list, as I created on Day One, goes as follows:

- - - 1. Gorrad
- - - 2. Xtoxm
- - - 3. Korlash


End of Post By Post Analysis



Role Claim:
(My first time doing it, isn't this special?)


I am
Yuzu Kurosaki
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Image
Contrary to popular belief, I am not a doctor.
I am a Nurse.
I have a 50% chance of saving my target, and 50% that my save will fail.
I targetted GLaDOS both nights.
(OhGodMyLife: Sorry if I included too much, this is my first role claim!)


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Theory:
(The following is speculation made by myself)


My theory is based on:
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Karakura_Superheroes
Yes, the Karakura Superheroes.
BleackWiki wrote:The Karakura Superheroes is a team created by Don Kanonji, who attempts to boost ratings for his declining TV show. Kanonji formed the team from Ichigo's sisters Karin Kurosaki and Yuzu Kurosaki, the children Ururu Tsumugiya and Jinta Hanakari from the Urahara Shop, and Kon as a mascot to slay Hollows and protect Karakura Town, particularly while Shinigami such as Rukia Kuchiki and substitute Ichigo Kurosaki are stuck in Soul Society (while likewise ignoring true substitute Shinigami Zennosuke Kurumadani, who was assigned to the area in their absence.) The Karakura Superheroes take the form of a Super Sentai team, in which the "red" member traditionally acts as team leader.
This idea came when Xtoxm first claimed.
PhilyEc, Ururu Tsumugiya, is one member of this group, as am I, Yuzu Kurosaki.
I would
definitely
not be surprised if Karin Kurosaki was in the game.
I even think I know what the role she would be.
With my theory, I think these five characters are in the game:

BleachWiki wrote:
Don Kanonji - Karakura Golden

Karin Kurosaki - Karakura Red
Yuzu Kurosaki - Karakura Yellow

Ururu Tsumugiya - Karakura Pink

Jinta Hanakari - Karakura Red
Kon - Karakura King
Two have been proven to be in the game. (Ururu Ysumugiya and Yuzu Kurosaki, myself)
Kon however, was given to the scum as a fake claim.
Therefore, I am wary of Xtoxm's claim.

Gorrad wrote:When I wrote Death Note Mafia (And I'm going to be bringing this game up a lot due to similarities) I put only one member of the Kira Insvestigation Team (Matsuda) as a role and put the others as fakeclaims, despite their fitting the flavor well, with Matsuda there to make them seem more likely.
This might be what the moderator is doing to me.


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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:27 pm

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Xtoxm, thoughts on Zeenon's claim?
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:39 pm

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On time constraints now, cause it's getting late here, I see the claim. Claim sounds believable.
unvote


Also, I saw the Karakura Superheroes come up there somewhere, I kinda doubt they're involved in this at all. That bit came up as a filler somewhere in the anime-only arc, if I remember, which came well after the soul-society arc. So very unrelated, I think.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:50 pm

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GC wrote:I've noticed you've declined to comment on your steady push to lynch the obvDoc on D2.
Korlash wrote:Sorry, what? Did I miss something? Can't very well comment on something I have no knowledge about now can I? Are you saying you know who the doctor is?
GC wrote:Please reread 668, 671 and 674. I was/am waiting for ZEE to make his claim before I responded to you in full (which will be basically a "and so what is your response?" so feel free to ready your reply).
ZEE wrote:I am Yuzu Kurosaki.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not a doctor.
I am a Nurse.
Korlash, I've noticed you've declined to comment on your steady push to lynch the
obvDoc
obvNurse on D2.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:08 pm

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Jebus wrote:Also, I saw the Karakura Superheroes come up there somewhere, I kinda doubt they're involved in this at all. That bit came up as a filler somewhere in the anime-only arc, if I remember, which came well after the soul-society arc. So very unrelated, I think.
Assuming my theory is incorrect, there is no other reason that Don Kanonki could be in this game.
Therefore, if everyone thinks my theory is incorrect, Xtoxm should be lynched.
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:14 pm

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1) Nurse is an infamous fakeclaim for scum

2) He admitted to looking up his role on wikipedia (very much a scumtell imho)

3) He could easily have been setting himself up, hoping that Seraphim was town and that by getting the softclaim of a role linked to Seraphim done early, that Seraphim would semi-confirm him by his death. AKA what I said about Matsude, with one person being there as a townie and the rest being fakeclaims, could just as easily have him using one of the fakeclaims like Seraphim was.
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:16 pm

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Gorrad wrote:...hoping that Seraphim was town...
The rest of your post was ignored due to your stupidity.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:21 pm

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Gorrad wrote:3) He could easily have been setting himself up, hoping that Seraphim was town and that by getting the softclaim of a role linked to Seraphim done early, that Seraphim would semi-confirm him by his death.
Right, this makes no sense. If ZEE was scum then he would know Seraphim was scum and wouldn't be hoping for jack. Care to modify your point?
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:29 pm

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Green Crayons wrote:
Gorrad wrote:3) He could easily have been setting himself up, hoping that Seraphim was town and that by getting the softclaim of a role linked to Seraphim done early, that Seraphim would semi-confirm him by his death.
Right, this makes no sense. If ZEE was scum then he would know Seraphim was scum and wouldn't be hoping for jack. Care to modify your point?
Multiple scumgroups. Still haven't given up the possibility, what with the hollow cop.
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:31 pm

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Gorrad isn't lynched yet?
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:31 pm

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I doubt there's 3 scumgroups.
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:27 pm

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Vote Count:
5 to lynch

Gorrad: 3 (Xtoxm, ZEEnon, Green Crayons)
Xtoxm: 2 (Albert B. Rampage, Gorrad)

Not Voting: 4 (GLaDOS, Mastin, Jebus, Korlash)
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:39 pm

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... Processing ...

I want a Gorrad claim. I am ready to vote for him and I am only not doing so in order to disallow a hammer vote (including a self-hammer).

I am still in favor of a mass-claim. If we’re going to do it, though, then sooner is better, as (i) it prevents an additional night of thinking and planning and reacting to further deaths; (ii) the scum probably pretty much know most of the set-up by now; and (iii) it prevents an end of the day claim on a wagon which could result in a last-minute scramble.

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I am also going to make this very clear. Our claimed Nurse has claimed to protect me on Night One, the night we did not have nightkill. Unless you think mafia no-killed or something else prevented a nightkill, then in all likelihood the mafia tried to kill me on Night One. For those who do not think there are three scum groups, this means I’m not scum. This comment is mostly made with an eye towards Albert B. Rampage, since he seems to be the only one who has not gotten this through his head.

If I am correct about this then if the scum want me dead they’ll pretty much have to lynch me. Good luck with that, by the way.

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ZEEnon, a few questions.

1.) What did you have to ask the mod about to clarify your role?
2.) Why did you protect me Nights One and Two?
3.) Are you given any indication of what way your 50% goes each night? Any notification for successful protects?
4.) Please explain how the presence of Yuzu makes Kanonji a less likely character with your theory. It seemed like just a while ago your theory
supported
Kanonji being int he game, so I am confused.

Also, because I feel it might be unfair for me to keep silent on this issue, the first thing I did was to check ZEEnon’s link for his picture to see if it came from the same website as my picture. It did not. ZEEnon’s picture in fact came from ZEEnon’s photobucket account, where he had 7 other recent photos with Yuzu in them. A few of those had other characters in them, but they all largely centered on Yuzu (except for one ‘family’ picture). Unfortunately I could not find a way to figure out what days ZEEnon uploaded the photos onto his account.

The mod has allowed me to post this since the information was fair game for anybody willing to do the research. I tend to think this supports his claim.
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