Mini 760 - Bleach Mafia: Karakura Town - Game Over!


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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:43 pm

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I guess one could read it that way. I have always read something like "he is not dancing around the question" to mean "he is directly answering the question" rather than "he is not dealing with the question at all." I suppose I am forced to accept that there are other interpretations, though.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:45 pm

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Who do you think is more suspicious, Korlash or Green Crayons?
I really think Korlash is the way to go.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:53 pm

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Difficult question to answer, because I am seriously starting to think that both Korlash and Green Crayons are town and that Jebus is scum. That aside, I have never really suspected Korlash except for reasons stemming directly from his role-claim, whereas I have been suspicious of Green Crayons for most of the game. Hence, I would probably prefer the Green Crayons lynch if I were forced to choose solely between those two players.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:03 pm

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I think that having more vanilla would make the game more balanced, no?
I mean, we have quite a few power roles including latent abilities.
Due to that, I think Jebus is town.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:31 pm

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Not necessarily, no. Assume Jebus is scum. We are then left with:

1.) Two Spirit Enablers. When a mod basically includes two of the same role in the same game, they are almost always considering the fact that those two roles may get into a war with each other to the point where the town lynches one or both of them on the theory of "both cannot be town";
2.) A 'Hollow Cop' which is seriously weakened by the presence of both a Godfather (which I assume was investigation-immune) and a possible Miller; and
3.) A Nurse who is not even guaranteed to successfully protect anybody; and
4.) A hodge-podge of other seemingly weak roles that might be able to give the town small benefits, and even then some can only do so if they are actually activated.

Throw in the fact that the town has to deal with a Mafia Redirector and a second kill every night from a Serial Killer and I tend to think our town is not as strong as you think it is.
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:55 pm

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*yawn*

You go ahead and push my lynch there Zee, just don't act surprised when I come up town and you take heat for being the guy who roleblocked me just to make me a mislynch target.

I don't really care who is lynched first between Jebus and Glad. As far as I know Jebus is the ONLY claimed vanilla... The only other possible vanillia role was Mastin which doesn't help that Jebus only claimed his role after Mastin was killed. And the fact Mastin said his flavor matched Sera's kinda tells me he had some indication of being something other then vanilla. I mean the way Mastin was talking I almost started calling him a tracker right there, I can't believe it's just coincidence he happened to be one.

Based on that I'd give it pretty good odd's Jebus's claim is a manufactured one based on Mastin's role.

I've lessened on how much I disbelieve Glad. I don't find it too suspicious only Chad is in the game. I mean both sisters are in the game but Jinka isn't. Why? Uryu is... And technicaly my role, the SK role, and Chad all fit together anyway. So really it's not impossible. As Gorrad said it's possible the mod put a main character in to help strengthen the Rukia safeclaim.

The biggest downside to her right now is the fact she is using night 1 as kinda a main defense. I mean the odds scum no killed is pretty high actually. Sera's fakeclaim = hider, a no kill strengthens his claim, Gorrad's fakeclaim = JK, a no kill strengthens his as well. Theoetically, if Glad is scum a no kill strengthens her claim too. A no kill on night one would have been a trifecta of believability for the scum in this scenario. And with the SK dead, it's not like the scum were really sweating going into night or anything.

I don't get why GC is one of Zee's biggest suspicions. I thought the two of them were on the same page for most of the game. Whatever... it seems everything zee does is suspicious to me now a days...
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:13 am

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Don't think K is scum. Him being a mafia SE doesn't make sense, and I don't see him claiming like he did without the role. Also, he would have no need to claim his action failed if he was scum.

I could go with a Jebus or Glados lynch...

Vote Jebus


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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:30 am

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I rather vote Glados.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:24 am

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Unvote.

I'm trying to draw reactions with my vote, but so far they all have seemed legit.
I'm not sure who is the lynch for the day.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:57 am

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I have limited access since yesterday. I've only been able to skim over the thread. I won't be able to post anything worthwhile until tomorrow or Friday.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:15 pm

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Managed to sneak in a quick review.

I find it odd that in 907 DOS makes a bet with Albert, in 911 she decides to claim her main account and then immediately in 919 wants us to forget the whole thing lest it become a distraction. Uh. Couldn't you have just skipped the wager/main account reveal and save us the trouble of forgetting something that can't be forgotten? Just pointing this out because it's irksome more so than anything else. Might as well as get a brightly flashing billboard reading "Ignore the Pissing Contest, Folks!"

ZEE wrote:I feel more stronger on the former, due to his passive ability claim, although he has helped lynch both scum thus far.
Yeah, you haven't really explained how 1) my passive ability claim is suspicious and 2) how it differs from the other players who have also claimed to have a passive ability to make it suspicious.

ZEE wrote:Ah, you took that really literally. Let's just say it's a figure of speech, such as:
"My character is not a big part of the storyline."
The only reason why I am explaining this for him is because I also used the same phrase earlier on.
No. It's a figure of speech that, if he intended it to mean what you're saying, he used incorrectly. It means exactly what DOS said. When you "dance around" something, that means you are a tangential figure, or circumventing the main point or being a general outlier. When you aren't dancing around something, that means you're in the thick of it, going straight to the point, etc.


vote: Jebus
. A Jebus scum would wrap things up incredibly nicely. He was also next in line after my Gorrad/Korlash dichotomy.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:19 pm

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I'm starting to like you, Green Crayons.

Unvote, vote Jebus


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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:55 pm

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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:09 pm

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Unvote


Nah, Jebus is town.
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:18 pm

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LynchHimNotMe (Jebus)'s attack on Gorrad was too direct, it couldn't have come from a scumpartner.

Jebus helped lynch Seraphim when he could have lurked it out.

Jebus would never have killed Mastin:
Mastin wrote:Jebus was either told EXACTLY, word for word, what to claim, or his claim is legit. There's absolutely no way his claim could match mine so perfectly otherwise.
Jebus is not scum.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:22 pm

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By elimination, it has to be..

Vote Korlash


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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:28 pm

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I'm just a bit less than 95% sure that the scum is Korlash, 5% sure its Glados, and less than 1% its someone else entirely.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:30 pm

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PJ, GC, will you do the honors of explaining to everyone why Korlash is scum?
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:33 pm

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I also narrowed down the scum to either Green Crayons or Korlash,
and I find Korlash to be the worst of the two.
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:34 pm

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Yep. Vote away, my fellow canadian friend.
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:38 pm

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Vote: Korlash .

I've longed to see you lynched Korlash!
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:03 pm

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Korlash (45%) or GLaDOS (50%), or someone different (5%) is what I think. If Korlash is the way you're going, I'll happily follow.
unvote, Vote: Korlash


A votecount might be nice. I'm pretty sure this is the L-1 vote, by my count.


Also, I took "does not dance around the main plot" to mean "is not important/is not part of the main plot," if that wasn't already apparent.

Also, V/LA for the next 24-36 hours or so.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:08 pm

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... Processing ...

Tired and about to go to bed. Guess I'm still not quite sure what the case against Korlash is, if there is something besides some form of process of elimination.

Regardless, I think this is definitely an appropriate time for Korlash to claim his passive ability.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:49 pm

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Shit, Jebus has already been lynched.
I really believed him as town too ... Oh well, no perfect record.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:53 pm

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My passive ability is "cursed" any nightkill that targets me is passed along to whoever I am attached to.

I really don't like how ABR keeps jumping around but to be honest with three straight days of seeing scum hang I'm not too bent out of shape over my mislynch. I'd rather see Glad or Jebus or perferably GC but... Hell I'm just tired of being in a game with Zee to really care one way or another.

I would however think it best to say WHY I'm scum before you lynch me so that the scum amoung you can't "wing it" tomorrow. I think that's acceptable no?
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