Kmd4390 wrote:Fair enough. That's just a terrible hammer attempt with only one boost at the time. It's hard to accept that ConsM is town, but if Mufasa is scum, I'm gonna have to do that. If both of these guys are town, I just suck and am going to retire from mafia. XD.
We both know why a quick hammer is bad, so I won't rehash all that. The fact only one boost was in place just makes it worse.
I haven't seen much from ConsonantM that makes him scummy other than his uncharacteristic lurking. Is there something I've missed?
Battle Mage wrote:
But i dont really take it seriously. It's only a shame that we will be forced to lynch him at some point or another, regardless of how he plays, because no scumbag in their right mind would NK him...
So that means he deserves a policy lynch why?
Because we'll never be able to get a read on him, because he won't ever do anything. 'Policy lynch' as a phrase, carries alot of stigma. But the fact is, we have very little choice with a player like Zwet-there is no way in hell im risking letting him win as scum.
BM
Zwet is retarded as scum. If he's scum, we'll catch him.
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Papa Zito wrote:
We both know why a quick hammer is bad, so I won't rehash all that. The fact only one boost was in place just makes it worse.
Meh, if it weren't for the boosting, I'd disagree to an extent. Not important though as I agree that it was scummy.
Zito wrote:I haven't seen much from ConsonantM that makes him scummy other than his uncharacteristic lurking. Is there something I've missed?
Actually, I've hardly even mentioned lurking in my case against him. I didn't like his baseless attack on Semi, his doing things just to look protown along with his constant assertion that his behavior was null as opposed to protown, his pointless lurker callouts as opposed to real scumhunting, his huge (9 I believe) number of players he is calling scum, his OMGUS on me, and probably other things that weren't as huge a deal that I don't remember. Those are the biggest points against him though. I guess you can add his recent lurking too because he is posting in other games and seems to be intentionally avoiding this one.
Zito wrote:Happy scumday BTW.
Thanks.
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Kmd4390 wrote:Actually, I've hardly even mentioned lurking in my case against him. I didn't like his baseless attack on Semi, his doing things just to look protown along with his constant assertion that his behavior was null as opposed to protown, his pointless lurker callouts as opposed to real scumhunting, his huge (9 I believe) number of players he is calling scum, his OMGUS on me, and probably other things that weren't as huge a deal that I don't remember. Those are the biggest points against him though. I guess you can add his recent lurking too because he is posting in other games and seems to be intentionally avoiding this one.
Now you've made me have to go back and re-read him. OMGUS. heh
Ya, Both accounts were against ConsM which many of us have belief that he is scum. I can promise you if we lynch ConsM today and he isn't scum (which would be incredibly shocking) than yes you should lynch me tm based on the fact that we have set each other against each other at two different sides of the spectrum that one of us has to be opposite the other.
Well, you didn't seem to be voting him because he was scum. You seemed to be voting him because he was annoying.
I already do plan on probably voting you tomorrow if ConsM is town.
Why do you think one of you and ConsM absolutely has to be scum? I only think that because you are both scummy as hell, but not connected. I fail to see how you can't both be town aside from the fact that you are both scummy.
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Well seeing I am town it is a possibility that ConsM is town also, but he really hasn't been around enough to say much lately. So, really It could turn out even worse for the town and that myself or ConstM is lynched today and we are town, then tm the other lynched and is also town would be bad. I can only really speak for myself on this issue as I know that I am town, and ConsM really has left me with no choice due to his lurking to really find out any new information from him to determine if he is also town. With the deadline so close the town is gonna have to take a risk by lynching one of us, I just wish ConstM would come out from lurking.
Mufasa wrote:Ya, Both accounts were against ConsM which many of us have belief that he is scum. I can promise you if we lynch ConsM today and he isn't scum (which would be incredibly shocking) than yes you should lynch me tm based on the fact that we have set each other against each other at two different sides of the spectrum that one of us has to be opposite the other.
I can probably give you a little insight into why I think your scummy.
Unless you are scum together you do not know ConsM's alignment.
So if we as a town lynch consM and he turns town: you say we should automatically go after you. Essentially signing your death warrant.
Now if your town, you are making us waste another night and 2 townies by doing this. Obviously anti town.
If your scum, you are sacrficing yourself which makes no sense, unless your sure your going down anyway.
The only way this could possibly benifit you is if your both scum, you see him going down anyway and your getting some heat so you make this statement, we lynch him, you were right, we dont lynch you.
Then, of course, he might be scum and you might be town... however then you shouldn't be making such definite assumptions on matters you are not sure about.
Mostly retired. Unless you ask or it's something interesting.
Mufasa wrote:Well seeing I am town it is a possibility that ConsM is town also, but he really hasn't been around enough to say much lately. So, really It could turn out even worse for the town and that myself or ConstM is lynched today and we are town, then tm the other lynched and is also town would be bad. I can only really speak for myself on this issue as I know that I am town, and ConsM really has left me with no choice due to his lurking to really find out any new information from him to determine if he is also town. With the deadline so close the town is gonna have to take a risk by lynching one of us, I just wish ConstM would come out from lurking.
How is this "risk" of mislynching on back to back days greater than any other scenario?
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Mufasa wrote:Well seeing I am town it is a possibility that ConsM is town also, but he really hasn't been around enough to say much lately. So, really It could turn out even worse for the town and that myself or ConstM is lynched today and we are town, then tm the other lynched and is also town would be bad. I can only really speak for myself on this issue as I know that I am town, and ConsM really has left me with no choice due to his lurking to really find out any new information from him to determine if he is also town. With the deadline so close the town is gonna have to take a risk by lynching one of us, I just wish ConstM would come out from lurking.
How is this "risk" of mislynching on back to back days greater than any other scenario?
Other scenario meaning an ordinary game where two people are scummy.
KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare
Mufasa wrote:Ya, Both accounts were against ConsM which many of us have belief that he is scum. I can promise you if we lynch ConsM today and he isn't scum (which would be incredibly shocking) than yes you should lynch me tm based on the fact that we have set each other against each other at two different sides of the spectrum that one of us has to be opposite the other.
I can probably give you a little insight into why I think your scummy.
Unless you are scum together you do not know ConsM's alignment.
So if we as a town lynch consM and he turns town: you say we should automatically go after you. Essentially signing your death warrant.
Now if your town, you are making us waste another night and 2 townies by doing this. Obviously anti town.
If your scum, you are sacrficing yourself which makes no sense, unless your sure your going down anyway.
The only way this could possibly benifit you is if your both scum, you see him going down anyway and your getting some heat so you make this statement, we lynch him, you were right, we dont lynch you.
Then, of course, he might be scum and you might be town... however then you shouldn't be making such definite assumptions on matters you are not sure about.
I pretty much covered each of these scenarios in my post.
Also who are constMs scum partners? Well I can tell you I find Weirdo and semioldguy to be scummy but again constm hasnt talked much lately so hard to get connections.
Let it be noted that cateraction has stalled well today posting very few times with little to no content or views on people. Thats bad town or scum play. Don't be in LY/LO with him. If I die tonight, this is a good place to start.
Also if I had not made it perfectly clear why I am not on either wagon yet and who I am likely voting for of those 2 choices then I must be typing the wrong language.
Can we hurry up and get this boost resolved please?
Mufasa wrote:Well seeing I am town it is a possibility that ConsM is town also, but he really hasn't been around enough to say much lately. So, really It could turn out even worse for the town and that myself or ConstM is lynched today and we are town, then tm the other lynched and is also town would be bad. I can only really speak for myself on this issue as I know that I am town, and ConsM really has left me with no choice due to his lurking to really find out any new information from him to determine if he is also town. With the deadline so close the town is gonna have to take a risk by lynching one of us, I just wish ConstM would come out from lurking.
If this is the post you are talking about then it really isnt good enough.
Mostly retired. Unless you ask or it's something interesting.
Mufasa wrote:Well seeing I am town it is a possibility that ConsM is town also, but he really hasn't been around enough to say much lately. So, really It could turn out even worse for the town and that myself or ConstM is lynched today and we are town, then tm the other lynched and is also town would be bad. I can only really speak for myself on this issue as I know that I am town, and ConsM really has left me with no choice due to his lurking to really find out any new information from him to determine if he is also town. With the deadline so close the town is gonna have to take a risk by lynching one of us, I just wish ConstM would come out from lurking.
If this is the post you are talking about then it really isnt good enough.
Really isnt good enougj? I covered the basics, seriously it may be too much of a gamble for the town but everyone else is keeping their mouthes zipped leaving no other options unless we lynched a lurker
1-6, votes consM because he dislikes his play and finds it "distracting". Tries to "out the alt", doesnt know if hes scum, is voting him mainly due to the annoyance
8, admits to pushing the wagon, with no real reason
10, doesnt understand why people are going for him, who has done "1 action all game" which was scummy over someone who has done "a lot of scumhunting" but has made a few scumtells
11, OMGUS vote on Papa Zito
13, uses the old "lynch me, hurt the town" routine. Which is like saying "I have no defence just trust me"
15, does the same thing except endorses himself as a boost candidate despite being one of the main suspects.
16, the fake hammer, which has already been discussed
19, with no explanion he does a u turn on papa zito and now boosts him
24, noone has played a boost game before unless they played the previous. So read the rules, everyone else has. Its also really obvious by the way.
27-28 is still singing Papa Zitos praises yet still doesnt explain the turnaround.
30, boosts BM with no reasons, even before BM has made a post with his role PM
31, explains it a bit more with his "track record" however in post 9 which I didnt pick up on before, he unboosts OGML for almost exactly the same thing.
Then 33-36 is the conversation with me about why saying "If ConsM flips town, you should lynch me tomorrow" is wrong.
Those are the reasons Im voting Mufasa.
Mostly retired. Unless you ask or it's something interesting.
I'm in Denver at the moment, so posts from me will be a little scarce, and I won't have time for any real cases
BUT -- I think Kise is town. I think the soft claim/claim thing was... a little stupid.
@Kise - Shame on you, you make me regret making you a sammich and bringing you a beer.
I don't think there is a single thing that I can say about ConsM and Mufasa that hasn't been said already. Either way, they're both fighting for top slot on my scum list. *shrugs* I haven't seen anything from either of them that makes me feel otherwise.
Why he's less scummy? All he has to do is say why you are the most scummy, and conso must therefore be less scummy. What are you trying to get him to say? Why not defend yourself instead of just screaming and pointing at Conso?
