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[Goatrevolt]

In a somewhat related realization. I was unaware I had a quick topic(s) to post in until I looked at my role pm again. Upon realization that I can talk to members in my department, I can say my decision this day will no longer be basically random.

What do you expect to learn from discussion in the quick topic that couldn't also be learned from discussion in the thread?

[scotmany12]

Mhm. I have two. Creative and Management.

[scotmany12]

In a somewhat related realization. I was unaware I had a quick topic(s) to post in until I looked at my role pm again. Upon realization that I can talk to members in my department, I can say my decision this day will no longer be basically random.

What do you expect to learn from discussion in the quick topic that couldn't also be learned from discussion in the thread?

For one, I can discuss with them. I guess we could do that here, but I feel I can get a better understanding of how sincere someone is when we talk in private.

[Korts]

Mod: How are roles distributed if the CEO has used his one shot power already and the Creative Director is dead? Does the CEO get to pick a new Creative Director even though he's used his 1-shot already?

The CEO's power is one-shot, regardless of circumstances. If they've used the ability up already, and the Creative Director dies, the role dies with them.

What happens if both the CEO and Creative director are dead? How are roles distributed?

Knew I forgot to include something. Updating rules. If the Creative Director and the CEO both die without the CEO having used their one-shot ability to promote a new Creative Director, a one time public vote may elect a new Creative Director. If this player dies as well, the role stays dead and the creative department loses all active abilities.

[Goatrevolt]

I propose that the CEO

does not

use his ability to appoint a new Creative Director unless the current Creative Director is dead.

Hypothetical: CEO removes scot from his position today. Either we lynch/the scum kill the new Creative Director. We effectively get screwed out of all of our roles as early as day 2. If the CEO saves his ability, then we would at least get another day out of it.

[Adel]

are these accounts "use them or lose them"?

Or, if we don't assign the tracker accoutns today, will we be able to use them tomorrow?

[Adel]

the bussdriver can protect the creative director.

[Adel]

Also, Ren Hoek = TSQ

[Ren Hoek]

Also, Ren Hoek = TSQ

Don't make me ragequit.

Now post a game flowchart or prepare to die.

[Adel]

are these accounts "use them or lose them"?

Or, if we don't assign the tracker accoutns today, will we be able to use them tomorrow?

ah, rule 24: "a list of role actions unique to each Day."

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@TSQ, do you think the mafia has a kill each day?

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should both tracker abilities go to the same creative team to mitigate the risk of scot being scum and the risk of 1/2 of a creative team being scum?

[Ren Hoek]

It doesn't say whether the mafia has a kill each day. My working hypothesis is it does.

(27d)Immediate actions' public results (if any), most notably kills will be posted between 0 and 24 hours of me opening the PM, to avoid Time Zone differences breaking the game.

Does the above rule confirm it?

To be helpful, I am going to come right out and confirm that I'm town. I would appreciate if you could do the same.

[Adel]

Does the above rule confirm it?

only if there is a kill without there being an assigned killing ability.

I'm town too. Two down.

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distractions aside, I think the trick for this game is to establish a process for assigning roles that is robust enough to withstand the decisions of bad faith actors (scum) in the decision chain.

A "good enough" for choosing abilities, and assigning them

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keeping the creative director alive, keep us in power roles.

Keep the CEO alive, and we get an additional back-up creative director.

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I can see utility is assigning PGO and tracker to the same creative team. That would prevent the risk of scum targeting that creative team for a kill, and preserve the tracker result.

options:
A: Tracker + PGO to same team (scum won't target for a kill)
B: Tracker + Tracker to same team (scum would kill one of the trackers, and the remaining partner could be scum)
C: Bussdrive Creative Director with patsy
D: Assign PGO and Bussdriver to same creative team, switch High Value Target with PGO.
E: Assign tracker to two different creative teams. Also assign PGO to one of those teams (leaves creative director exposed)

[Nuwen]

Also, Ren Hoek = TSQ

She's definitely not Shea.

should both tracker abilities go to the same creative team to mitigate the risk of scot being scum and the risk of 1/2 of a creative team being scum?

Probably - a double scum creative team is statistically less likely, increasing the chance that one tracking action will not be scum directed or neutered.

I can already say with certainty that Seraphim is scum. Our interaction in the QT makes it obvious:

Ren seizes Scot's "mostly random" bit.
Seraphim parrots "Exactly my thoughts. We definitely need to pursue this."
Cay says stuff.
Seraphim asks "Do you think we've caught scum in Scot?"
Cay says both are overreacting.
Ren asks if she's explaining well enough, clarifies mounting case
Seraphim: Overreacting is fun! And we can replace him anyway
Cay continues to call Ren's case a stretch.
Ren implies Cay's only reason to attack the case so hard is that Cay is scum with Scot.
Seraphim calls Ren's newer accusations against Cay a reach and is now game for lynching either Ren or Scot, Ren preferred.

Opportunism at its finest.

[Ren Hoek]

Seraphim's first post in the QT stated that one player on the team was scum.

The thought hadn't occurred to me, I hadn't read the rules yet. Now I read the rules, but I'm still somewhat unclear on the concept.

Seraphim knew right off the bat that there was scum in our group.

[crywolf20084]

what do you understand?

[crywolf20084]

what don't you understand?

[Ren Hoek]

what do you understand?

There are a few groups of players can can daytalk and take decisions. The scum is mixed in those players.

My group picks a power.

Scotmany (and others?) pick who it goes to.

[scotmany12]

Seraphim's first post in the QT stated that one player on the team was scum.

The thought hadn't occurred to me, I hadn't read the rules yet. Now I read the rules, but I'm still somewhat unclear on the concept.

Seraphim knew right off the bat that there was scum in our group.

The only way he would know if there was scum in your team was if he was scum. Town would have no prior knowledge to suggest that there is scum in your group.

[Ren Hoek]

what don't you understand?

Everything else. If I could name it, I would be understanding it.

[Ren Hoek]

The only way he would know if there was scum in your team was if he was scum. Town would have no prior knowledge to suggest that there is scum in your group.

That's what I thought. I immediately thanked him for 'fessin' scum.

Then he replied something about it being a "joke."

[TDC]

Mod: I might've missed it, but can you confirm that the Bus Driver can actually target himself?

[crywolf20084]

don't think that question has been asked yet.

[crywolf20084]

what do you understand?

There are a few groups of players can can daytalk and take decisions. The scum is mixed in those players.

My group picks a power.

Scotmany (and others?) pick who it goes to.

I only meant to post the second part.

what don't you understand?

Everything else. If I could name it, I would be understanding it.

Gotta remember this is deep south as well.

[Ren Hoek]

The only way he would know if there was scum in your team was if he was scum. Town would have no prior knowledge to suggest that there is scum in your group.

The time stamp on the QT when he came in asking whether any of us were scum was 12:17.

His first in-game post was 12:16.

The roles were sent out a few hours prior to the game opening.

[Ren Hoek]

Gotta remember this is deep south as well.

Duly noted.