Cam
Mini 183: Quick and the Dead - Town Wins!
Forum rules
???mathcam wrote:I am a named character, and I know for a fact that the setup is not simply "major character or generic role claim."
I am confused. Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough before. I am not suggesting that the choice is simply between
major
named character and generic
role claim. I think there is a good possibility that there will be many "named" character roles who were quite minor players in the film. But those are still "characters." Is that what you are talking about?Mgm, however, is still the only one that I am aware of who has suggested that he doesn't have a role that is a "named" character in the film. I threw out the possibility that there could be "generic" roles in the game , which could be roles in the film that didn't have character names (like "gunslinger"). Do you see any other possibilies than those? Or are you just hinting at being a minor character?
-
-
SquareKnight Goon
-
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 125
- Joined: December 15, 2004
I'm in a bit of a bind here. I'm not sure I can give an answer to the question that isn't misleading. I am not a named character, but I have reason to believe that my role in this game is unique (i.e. no other player has a role with the same name).
did you ever have a sister did you did you
[i]a broken smile beneath her whispered wings[/i]
[i]a broken smile beneath her whispered wings[/i]
- _Obelix_
- _Obelix_
-
_Obelix_
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 177
- Joined: February 26, 2005
- Location: Granada, Spain
- Contact:
Coron, what we are trying to state now is whether our roles are generic (ie. "gunman", or "barman") or named after characters in the movie(ie. "Cort the Preacher").
It would help if everybody answers this question, because I think it would make more clear the strategy to follow.
Tomorrow I will do a summary of the game, including what people has claimed to this point, but now I am going to bed.
It would help if everybody answers this question, because I think it would make more clear the strategy to follow.
Tomorrow I will do a summary of the game, including what people has claimed to this point, but now I am going to bed.
Record of all my games here:
(Wiki page under construction)
(Wiki page under construction)
- The Shadow
- The Shadow
-
The Shadow
- knows
- knows
- Posts: 548
- Joined: October 18, 2004
- Location: In the shadows...
Your wish is my command:Coron wrote:I'm flying under the radar for a good reason, all we are talking about is name claiming, and since I do not know the theme I will have to refuse.
If you think that's scummy then vote me, but this is stock policy.
-Coron
Vote: Coron
Because it
is
scummy. And we aren't asking for name claims right now anyway. Doesn't mean you are a scum, but it could be that, or you could just be too lazy to look up your character.- Puzzle
- Puzzle
-
Puzzle
- Has a Cunning Plan
- Has a Cunning Plan
- Posts: 885
- Joined: March 11, 2005
- Location: UK
Sum-up of Coron's posts :
Post #26 :
However, I think that we should complete the claims of whether one has a named character or not before putting pressure to claim too much from anyone.
Anyway :
- if Coron is scum made nervous by this approach, it means it's good, so let's continue by as little steps as possible.
- if Coron is townie, no need to get a big claim from him : it would only help the mafia find some niches to hide.
Fake Edit : By the way, I am fully aware that this mere post will draw FOSes to me.
Post #26 :
Post #79 :Coron wrote:There is a good reason I'm not trying to annalyze things, I've never watched quick and dead so I don't know anything, also, while not illegal, mass name claim this early seems against the spirit of the game, butI guess we could anyway.
This is what I call a contradiction, or at least a change of mind. What happened between these post ? Axelrod's proposition of little steps towards name claiming began to bear fruits.Coron wrote:I'm flying under the radar for a good reason, all we are talking about is name claiming, and since I do not know the themeI will have to refuse.
If you think that's scummy then vote me, but this is stock policy.
-Coron
However, I think that we should complete the claims of whether one has a named character or not before putting pressure to claim too much from anyone.
Anyway :
- if Coron is scum made nervous by this approach, it means it's good, so let's continue by as little steps as possible.
- if Coron is townie, no need to get a big claim from him : it would only help the mafia find some niches to hide.
Fake Edit : By the way, I am fully aware that this mere post will draw FOSes to me.
- NanookTheWolf
- NanookTheWolf
-
NanookTheWolf
- R.I.P. He trusted mathcam.
- R.I.P. He trusted mathcam.
- Posts: 3187
- Joined: February 15, 2004
- Location: Jersey shore
You can only participate in one challenge in one day .. So the answer to your second question would be that the person is immune ...Squareknight wrote:If person A challenges person B and wins, the person A cannot challenge again, correct? But can person A be challenged by anyone else, or is he now immune because he's participated in a duel already?
Delayed Vote Count:
3 - Coron (Puzzle, Axelrod, Zippy)
2 - Puzzle (Myopia, Mastermind of Sin)
1 - Mathcam (_Obelix_)
1 - Zippy (The Shadow)
1 - Squareknight (MgM)
1 - Mastermind of Sin (Coron)
Not Voting: Mathcam, Squareknight
11 Alive, Takes 6 to Lynch!
Sorry for taking so much time to get back to you guys .. I had a very busy week, and my weekend doesn't look promising either, but I will stop in to check in between shifts at work.
- _Obelix_
- _Obelix_
-
_Obelix_
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 177
- Joined: February 26, 2005
- Location: Granada, Spain
- Contact:
The summary I promised:
People who have claimed to have a role who is not a villain in the movie:
Axelrod
Puzzle
MGM
Zippy
_Obelix_ (95% sure)
People with "generic roles"
MGM (suspects there are more players with his same role)
SquareKnight (believes his role is unique)
People with "named roles"
_Obelix_
Myopia
Puzzle
Mathcam (suggests having a secondary character from the movie)
The Shadow
People who have not claimed generic or named yet
Coron
Zippy
MoS
Axelrod (suggested the idea but did not claim)
All this is, obviously, subject to mistakes and thus should not be taken as completely accurate. Feel free to correct any mistakes and, if you have not claimed in the Named/Generic debate, please do so.
Well, I hope this helps. To finish I will say that MGM appears the most suspicious to me at the moment, given how the claims are going, but I think it is better to wait until everybody has claimed.
Until then, I will
People who have claimed to have a role who is not a villain in the movie:
Axelrod
Puzzle
MGM
Zippy
_Obelix_ (95% sure)
People with "generic roles"
MGM (suspects there are more players with his same role)
SquareKnight (believes his role is unique)
People with "named roles"
_Obelix_
Myopia
Puzzle
Mathcam (suggests having a secondary character from the movie)
The Shadow
People who have not claimed generic or named yet
Coron
Zippy
MoS
Axelrod (suggested the idea but did not claim)
All this is, obviously, subject to mistakes and thus should not be taken as completely accurate. Feel free to correct any mistakes and, if you have not claimed in the Named/Generic debate, please do so.
Well, I hope this helps. To finish I will say that MGM appears the most suspicious to me at the moment, given how the claims are going, but I think it is better to wait until everybody has claimed.
Until then, I will
Unvote:mathcam
, since the game is already advanced enough that a random vote has absolutely no sense.Record of all my games here:
(Wiki page under construction)
(Wiki page under construction)
- Mgm
- Mgm
-
Mgm
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: May 2, 2004
- Location: Dordrecht, Netherlands
- Contact:
I'm sure this is going to draw votes and FOSses to me, but I should really correct this. I had my role mixed up with that of another game.
Vote me if you want, I deserve it.
Note: I might have limited access tomorrow as well.
I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A NAMED ROLE....
Vote me if you want, I deserve it.
Note: I might have limited access tomorrow as well.
Show
"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
[u][b]Next:[/b] Doctor Who Mafia[/u]
[u]Testimonials about Mgm:[/u]
:shock: - Stoofer
You put me through hell Mgm, my nerves are crushed :/ - Patrick
[u][b]Next:[/b] Doctor Who Mafia[/u]
[u]Testimonials about Mgm:[/u]
:shock: - Stoofer
You put me through hell Mgm, my nerves are crushed :/ - Patrick
- _Obelix_
- _Obelix_
-
_Obelix_
- Goon
- Goon
- Posts: 177
- Joined: February 26, 2005
- Location: Granada, Spain
- Contact:
So, both Zippy and MGM have named roles. It seems the only generic one so far is then SquareKnight´s.
Big, obligatory,
At this point, I believe your behaviour is scummy enough that it deserves a claim, but I am only proposing the idea to be debated, not asking for it inmediately.
On an unrelated note, I will most likely not have access until Monday.
Big, obligatory,
FOS:MGM
. You should not play that many games at a time if you get the roles mixed. At this point, I believe your behaviour is scummy enough that it deserves a claim, but I am only proposing the idea to be debated, not asking for it inmediately.
On an unrelated note, I will most likely not have access until Monday.
Record of all my games here:
(Wiki page under construction)
(Wiki page under construction)
Oooooo. That is sooo unbelievable. You were arguing forMgm wrote:I'm sure this is going to draw votes and FOSses to me, but I should really correct this. I had my role mixed up with that of another game.
I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A NAMED ROLE....
Vote me if you want, I deserve it.
Note: I might have limited access tomorrow as well.
four days
about this. Are you saying not once did you bother to check what your role actually was? Can you say what the name of the role in the "other" game was. I am having real trouble believing this. Coron, you may be off the hook for the moment.Unvote: Coron
Vote: Mgm
Vote: Mgm
This had better be a good claim (...or maybe they could just duel each other?)
- Mastermind of Sin
- Mastermind of Sin
-
Mastermind of Sin
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
- Contact:
- Puzzle
- Puzzle
-
Puzzle
- Has a Cunning Plan
- Has a Cunning Plan
- Posts: 885
- Joined: March 11, 2005
- Location: UK
Nanook : I unvoted Coron to vote MGM and stuck to it until now.
However, it's not a problem :
MGM : don't consider yourself cleared for me, although it would explain some things. The least you can do is tell us in which game was the other role.
However, it's not a problem :
Unvote MGM, vote Mastermind of Sin
. It's not because someone admits being scummy that he isn't. Your logic, from the beginning, is much more flawed than Axelrod's.MGM : don't consider yourself cleared for me, although it would explain some things. The least you can do is tell us in which game was the other role.
For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
Commodore Amazing
Commodore Amazing
- Mgm
- Mgm
-
Mgm
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: May 2, 2004
- Location: Dordrecht, Netherlands
- Contact:
No, I'm not considering myself cleared by a long shot, but I can't tell in what game I had the generic townie role. That would interfer with the other game and be against etiquette.Puzzle wrote:Nanook : I unvoted Coron to vote MGM and stuck to it until now.
However, it's not a problem :Unvote MGM, vote Mastermind of Sin. It's not because someone admits being scummy that he isn't. Your logic, from the beginning, is much more flawed than Axelrod's.
MGM : don't consider yourself cleared for me, although it would explain some things. The least you can do is tell us in which game was the other role.
Axelrod, no I didn't look one single time, as I believed I was talking about the correct role. I only checked my role when I went to cleanup my inbox. BTW, I've seen numerous players do it before and I always wondered how it's possible myself.
Now I know.
Show
"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
[u][b]Next:[/b] Doctor Who Mafia[/u]
[u]Testimonials about Mgm:[/u]
:shock: - Stoofer
You put me through hell Mgm, my nerves are crushed :/ - Patrick
[u][b]Next:[/b] Doctor Who Mafia[/u]
[u]Testimonials about Mgm:[/u]
:shock: - Stoofer
You put me through hell Mgm, my nerves are crushed :/ - Patrick
Mgm, is the "other game" a game on this site? Because I only see one other game you are in at the moment, and you have already made your claim in that game (and, yes, it was simple Townie or "Villager"). But you made that claim 4-20-05, so I don't understand why stating it here would interfere with that game. If you hadn't claimed yet it would make more sense. I also don't understand why it would be against ettiquite--especially if that's truly the reason for your error in this game.
- Mgm
- Mgm
-
Mgm
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1964
- Joined: May 2, 2004
- Location: Dordrecht, Netherlands
- Contact:
I'm also in several games over at the GreyLabyrinth. A lot of those players come here too. Not only could they accidentally walk into my role. I'm also prohibited to talk about it in detail outside the game (standard rules).
Show
"Logic is a systematic method to come to the wrong conclusion."
[u][b]Next:[/b] Doctor Who Mafia[/u]
[u]Testimonials about Mgm:[/u]
:shock: - Stoofer
You put me through hell Mgm, my nerves are crushed :/ - Patrick
[u][b]Next:[/b] Doctor Who Mafia[/u]
[u]Testimonials about Mgm:[/u]
:shock: - Stoofer
You put me through hell Mgm, my nerves are crushed :/ - Patrick
- Puzzle
- Puzzle
-
Puzzle
- Has a Cunning Plan
- Has a Cunning Plan
- Posts: 885
- Joined: March 11, 2005
- Location: UK
Nothing to add to the thread yet, but I need to inform you that I will be away to a wedding in France from the 5th to 9th May 2005.
I'll try to find an internet cafe, but can't promise to even have the time.
I'll try to find an internet cafe, but can't promise to even have the time.
For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
Commodore Amazing
Commodore Amazing
Obelix, I just realized I didn't respond to your list. In case it wasn't clear I am claiming a "named" character from the film, who was not a villain.
Mgm, I went to GL (see, I do research) and I still find your claim questionable (although technically possible). What bothers me more, however, is the idea that you got a role
I won't say any more about it, however, if no one else thinks it's worth pursuing.
Mgm, I went to GL (see, I do research) and I still find your claim questionable (although technically possible). What bothers me more, however, is the idea that you got a role
from another site
confused with this role. That seems even less likely than getting two roles from this site confused. I won't say any more about it, however, if no one else thinks it's worth pursuing.