Boost Mafia 2 (Game Over)

[Patrick]

Votecount

Empking (1) -- zwetschenwasser
Ether (1) -- Battle Mage
semioldguy (3) -- Sajin, OhGodMyLife, Kmd4390

Not voting: Everyone else
12 alive, 7 to lynch.

Boosting

Sajin (4) -- Ether, Kmd4390, Empking, OhGodMyLife
Korejora (2) -- Kmd4390, Ether
cateraction (3) -- Kmd4390, Battle Mage, Empking
Kmd4390 (1) -- Battle Mage
Battle Mage (1) -- Empking
zwetschenwasser (1) -- semioldguy
Porochaz (1) -- Sajin

I should probably be clear that I'm looking for a Sir Tornado replacement. Have been for a couple of days.

[zwetschenwasser]

semioldguy, are you going to say anything?

[Sajin]

/Request prod on BM

When you join the thread again please answer the questions I asked of you that are still pending as well as commenting on the last 2 pages. Thanks.

[Patrick]

He posted less than 24 hours ago.

[Sajin]

Missed that one. Sorry.

Questions still pending.

[zwetschenwasser]

Wow..

[Sajin]

Wow what?

[zwetschenwasser]

Awe at something.

[Korejora]

@Ether - Empking hasn't really said anything throughout the game. I haven't played with him before, so I don't know how to read that. He's not leaning towards townish from my perspective, if that's what you're asking.

@Kmd - I said that Ether doesn't look scummy to me. (If it's necessary to answer the question explicitly: I wouldn't likely boost someone I suspect.)

boost: Kmd4390
boost: cateraction

[zwetschenwasser]

I don't think we should continue multi-boosting KMD. He's been staying largely under the radar all game long.

[OhGodMyLife]

I've realized that if semi is scum, so is zwet.

[zwetschenwasser]

Please elaborate.

[Patrick]

Shanba replaces Sir Tornado. Many thanks to him.

[Sajin]

Shanba claim now.

[Ether]

Pending meta stuff, I'm not really interested in Zwetscum. Just off the top of my head, Empking, Porochaz and BM are all higher on my List.

(Yes, I'm OMGUSing BM.)

[zwetschenwasser]

BM is obvscum at this point.

[Kmd4390]

What has BM done scummy?

[zwetschenwasser]

everything

[Shanba]

Shanba claim now.

I'm a townie, but that's irrelevant since I've already read the game.

The following people are town: OGML, Ether. I probably wont consider lynching any of these people ever. That's how sure I am. Man, Ether is so ridiculously transparent as town that if she is scum she has to be playing the game of her mafia career to come even close.

I was suspicious Sajin early on. Actually, my thought process originally went "yeah, this guy is town" but then after some good pro-town stuff (notably, I thought his position on the boosts, and his advocating of caution looked town) was followed by... a lot of nothing, a lot more theory. In other words, what ether said. But his claim changes things, and we're now lynching a guy he's fingered as scum, which is always the best way to test a cop.

As a side note, I later realised that Sajin's logic was wrong, since what matters is not the ratio between townies and mafiosos, but between power roles and mafiosos. A townie boost is basically an irrelevancy: doesn't hurt or help scum or town. Only boosts on mafiosos and power roles affect the game and that ratio is often pretty close to 1:1, meaning boost at all costs is not as effective a strategy as could be thought. The surface logic is appealing, however, and I don't think Sajin as scum or town realised that it was flawed.

This sentence originally read :"I like empking as scum. zwet is right here" then I went to check my meta on empking that I was basing this on, notably the large normal games that I had been playing earlier this year (mafias 91, 88, 87 and 85) but he was scum in none of them. Which bemused me somewhat, since I had a distinct memory of him being scum in that game. Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure there's at least one scum, maybe more from the group that reads: {emp, zwet, cat, millar}. Not getting enough scumreads from players I can read for all the scum to be in those groups.

Don't see prozacscum. Neutral on him. Similarly on semioldguy. Which leaves me rather bereft of suspects. I need to reread both more thoroughly and I need to see OGML's case on prozac.

KMD/Sajin/BM are players I believe are fairly likely to be town, in about that order of descending likelihood. So I'm searching from a group of {zwet, emp, kore, semi, cat prozac} for multiple scum. I like those odds.

[Shanba]

Oh, and of course sajin has that guilty on semioldguy. So that's probably another scum down.

I'm not convinced we should boost first, but actually, I figure that if we've boosted scum they've probably double boosted themselves by now. for that reason, I only want to boost those already boosted.

Boost:Sajin

since I'd like to see a double boosted cop.

[Ether]

BM just hasn't done that much, and he's now using his Caffhate as an excuse to continue not doing anything. I figure if he

actually

thought I was scum, he'd have put his shoulder into it ages ago. His theory sucks, too, but I guess that's sort of minor.

[Ether]

I'm not really sure why Shanba isn't treating Semioldguy like confirmed scum, but okay.

What do you think of Kore's counterwagon on Day 2?

[Empking]

Is semi still here?

[zwetschenwasser]

he's confirmed scum.

[Sajin]

Zwett- if your town and think I am correct why are you not boosting me?