The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)


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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:57 pm

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Considering Zito died I do not think we have a protective role, VP.

Unless, there was some bus driving going on by scum. That would explain a Zito death with a protective role going on. Could also explain Tubby's failed hide if he is legit. Could. But not very likely.


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@Tubby- The point of a hider is to clear people. Not to be protected. Why were you targeting a guy who was obv town at that point?
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:58 pm

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tubby216 wrote:
VP Baltar wrote:Or you clearly don't understand how a hider works and you thought you could get away with hiding behind a dead person so you didn't have to "confirm" any more innocents (or out your buddies by claiming you hid with them).
really i chose PZ because he was most likely that he was not a convert. How is it my fault for picking a guy who was gonna die? now you think i am clairvoyant as well as cult? interesting
I think that while tubby's claim is obviously a lie, he's not lying in the above post simply because he's not aligned with the converters. He's cult.
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:59 pm

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I believe stark (I assumed that was what the white powder statement was about).

I, again, am vehemently saying that we need the massclaim today and need to work this out. Our cop claimed. Then died. We do NOT have protective roles. We have 5 of 16 players not claimed.

Further, since I believe stark we're at day 4 with a cult. This needs to be parsed out and lynched (I'm a little weary of the fact that looking at our high profile deaths none of them were culted)
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:02 pm

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SpyreX wrote:I believe stark (I assumed that was what the white powder statement was about).

I, again, am vehemently saying that we need the massclaim today and need to work this out. Our cop claimed. Then died. We do NOT have protective roles. We have 5 of 16 players not claimed.

Further, since I believe stark we're at day 4 with a cult. This needs to be parsed out and lynched (I'm a little weary of the fact that looking at our high profile deaths none of them were culted)
As cult, ideally you want recruits that are playing under the radar, right?

Also, SpyreX, can you give more than one potion a night?

Is there one in your arsenal that looks especially protective?
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:03 pm

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Sajin wrote:Considering Zito died I do not think we have a protective role, VP.

Unless, there was some bus driving going on by scum. That would explain a Zito death with a protective role going on. Could also explain Tubby's failed hide if he is legit. Could. But not very likely.


Meh.


@Tubby- The point of a hider is to clear people. Not to be protected. Why were you targeting a guy who was obv town at that point?
i thought the clearing was a bonus. I diddn't like the other choices available to me
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:08 pm

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One potion a night. I've given up on there being ANY correlation between colors and what they do.

If I were to get my cult hat in a large game I'd be recruiting a mix:
- players that are active and not scummy (volkan)
- players that aren't going to die (SB)
- (depending on mechanics) players that have a high chance of being kill protected and useful (Zito)
OR, of course
- players that have role information to out me (stark, Plum, Vaya)

As it sits I don't know what the hell. With the swath that has been stomped out with no flips we're in bad shape if this is a normal cult.
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:13 pm

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I forgot to mention as well that as a part of my ability, I am immune to brainwashing/the effect of Cava.
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:14 pm

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:(

You COULD have left that part quiet you know.
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:18 pm

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If we don't go threw with this mass claim, I swear I'll make the weather slightly unpleasant tomorrow. Don't think I wont!!
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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:24 pm

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SpyreX wrote::(

You COULD have left that part quiet you know.
That's a good point. I probably should have. But we're lynching the cult leader today anyways, so we shouldn't have to worry about further recruits.

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I propose a truce. The cult is as much of a problem to us as it is to you. You're down two members, so a cult is the last thing you want to deal with. The town won't pursue the Converters for as long as we're dealing with the Cult.

If dramonic was telling the truth about the Converters being non-violent ergo not responsible for the death of the Giver, then we're on the same side.

I should also mention that my investigations will only produce results for members of the Cult. If I investigate a converter, it's going to show up the same as a member of the town.

Therefore there's no point in killing me. It looks like PZ was the only one who could successfully investigate you.

Instead of killing me, I would propose that you kill off suspected members of the cult. They're our common enemy.
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:30 pm

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chamber wrote:If we don't go threw with this mass claim, I swear I'll make the weather slightly unpleasant tomorrow. Don't think I wont!!
^I have to admit I got a good chuckle.


I agree with stark's sentiments about a temporary truce. Cult needs deadening with extreme predjudice before we get on with the formalities.
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:35 pm

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@SP - Did you block me last night? Something is not adding up with what is going on and this I hope is the explaination. Of course I think milk targeting me is useless after SC is dead now...

Are we name/massclaiming or not at this point.
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:58 pm

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No drugs here.

SB is prob not Converter.

So. We have a scumgroup (that's one group and clearly one separate alignment), probably an SK who strangles, and possibly a cult. Dram's behavior on the Sajin wagon suggests a strong connection which I mislike.

What are good cult RECRUITER tells? I want to know.

Stark, you've suspected Tubby since I don't know when. Why have you not investigated him for drugs, pray tell? I understand the PZ thing. Why me and KScope?
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:00 pm

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LlamaFluff wrote:@SP - Did you block me last night?
Nope.
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:04 pm

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Plum wrote: SB is prob not Converter.
You are indeed right. I'm no converter. I'm with the council.

I dun get the drug thing... ¬_¬
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:23 pm

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stark wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Has Plum/Vaya claimed their result yet?

Stark's claim is likely bs. If you felt Tubby was breadcrumbing very early on that he was looking for you, why would you not target him before now?

Finally, there is no merit to me claiming atm. Although, in fairness, i've yet to see a good reason given for ANYBODY to claim now.

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1. Don't play dense. Plum/Vaya can either confirm or deny the "Causer of Weep" claim. That's the FIRST THING we needed to do today.
Stark wrote: 2. Have you read the game? I have had it out for tubby for a long long time. +12 Scumpoints
2. Lol, have you investigated him, and found him to be cult? Because i dont think you claimed you had. And assuming you havent, my question is, why not, given you are a Cult-Cop, and have felt he was cop for 3(?) nights now?
Stark wrote: 3. With the introduction of a cult into the town's scum-o-dometer, we need to take full diagnostic of our pool. Massclaim is how you do it.
Lol, ok, once you hang, we'll look at the possibility of a cult. In the meantime, i think you're just rolefishing. :P

I'm actually appalled that anyone is buying this claim. You're claiming Cult Cop, who has a top suspect on Day 1, but hasnt investigated him yet, choosing to take stabs in the dark instead?
You're claiming that the existence of a Cult is a reason for us to mass-claim today, but have not explained why you are choosing to do this now, when you have provided no useful information from your investigations so far.

I've seen how you roll, and i think there's a good shot you're scum here.

Unvote, Vote: Stark

Stark wrote: You should start thinking of a fakeclaim. Maybe you can be the Pleased Pulsating Pelican?
OMG, you guessed my actual role! That's so freaky! xD lol

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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:27 pm

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stark wrote:
@ All the Converters


I propose a truce. The cult is as much of a problem to us as it is to you. You're down two members, so a cult is the last thing you want to deal with. The town won't pursue the Converters for as long as we're dealing with the Cult.
Lmao. Gogo Hollywood! :D
Stark wrote: If dramonic was telling the truth about the Converters being non-violent ergo not responsible for the death of the Giver, then we're on the same side.
Lovely. You expect us to believe Dramonic...why?
Stark wrote: I should also mention that my investigations will only produce results for members of the Cult. If I investigate a converter, it's going to show up the same as a member of the town.

Therefore there's no point in killing me. It looks like PZ was the only one who could successfully investigate you.
I'm not sure if ur trying to set up some kind of WIFOM here, or are a 3rd party, actually trying to discourage the mafia from killing you. :P

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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:29 pm

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stark wrote:I forgot to mention as well that as a part of my ability, I am immune to brainwashing/the effect of Cava.
Cava...as in, wine? 0.o

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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:31 pm

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VP Baltar wrote:hey, battlemage, so your feeling is that we shouldn't lynch tubby today, right?
I'm favouring a Stark lynch atm. But we need to resolve the Plum/Vaya situation before the day is out. What's the problem with Tubby? sketchy Hider-claim?

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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:35 pm

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stark wrote:That's a good point.

Can we have BM claim, lynch Tubby, and go to bed?

I am about 97% sure that he is alligned with tubby. Who is cult.
Lol, i'd love to be in a cult with Tubby. :D

But id also love every single player here to explain why they AREN'T voting for Stark.

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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:13 pm

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Because Stark is living on borrowed time. And, of course, if he's lying he will get found out from team mason-rolecops.

And, of course, the fact that I believe him. Even the weirdness with the white powder makes sense.

I'll give you that I would have investigated tubby. Or mentioned it sooner. Both of those things bother me a lot.

However, I'm totally not diggin the jive of "kill the cop to confirm the scum"

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Tubby is going up the tree today. Stark can be dealt with. Sajin still needs to go a danglin'.

I, again, am in favor of the massclaim.
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:31 pm

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Wow. I am impressed. A 5x multipost chainsaw assault to save your leader. You go girl. Pulling out all the stops.
Plum/Vaya can either confirm or deny the "Causer of Weep" claim. That's the FIRST THING we needed to do today
This is not correct. Dealing with a cult is always priority. Always. Unfailingly.
Lol, have you investigated him, and found him to be cult? Because i dont think you claimed you had. And assuming you havent, my question is, why not, given you are a Cult-Cop, and have felt he was cop for 3(?) nights now?
I suspected him as a converter before. It wasn't until recently that I put the pieces together and pegged him as cult.
Lol, ok, once you hang, we'll look at the possibility of a cult. In the meantime, i think you're just rolefishing.
Yeah, I'm rolefishing a game where more than half the players are already claimed. Good job.

I'm also not the first person to ask for a roleclaim, but suddenly, I guess I'm the champion of the roleclaim cause. Convenient
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I've seen you too, BM. This is what you look like as scum. This is not how I look as scum.
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Lovely. You expect us to believe Dramonic...why?
Good one. Let me get my own quote for a second.
If dramonic was telling the truth about the Converters being non-violent ergo not responsible for the death of the Giver, then we're on the same side.
I'm pretty sure that that statement was addressed to the Converters. Not the town. I believe what dramonic said. I'm not saying anyone else should.

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I hope that you all noticed how BM jumped out of
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Tubby is dying today. That's not up for debate.

If the converters would be so kind as to kill BM tonight, I would be much obliged. He's super obv obv recruit.

Let's do the massclaim.
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:54 pm

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omfg plz lynch me now so stark will shut up.

if he lives wich he won't he'll be all like " well at least tubby was so useless to this game. I need to start policy lynching that guy on site"

just put me out of my misery
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:19 pm

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tubby216 wrote:omfg plz lynch me now so stark will shut up.

if he lives wich he won't he'll be all like " well at least tubby was so useless to this game. I need to start policy lynching that guy on site"

just put me out of my misery
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:39 pm

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stark wrote:Wow. I am impressed. A 5x multipost chainsaw assault to save your leader. You go girl. Pulling out all the stops.
Plum/Vaya can either confirm or deny the "Causer of Weep" claim. That's the FIRST THING we needed to do today
This is not correct. Dealing with a cult is always priority. Always. Unfailingly.
This assumes you are telling the truth.
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Lol, have you investigated him, and found him to be cult? Because i dont think you claimed you had. And assuming you havent, my question is, why not, given you are a Cult-Cop, and have felt he was cop for 3(?) nights now?
I suspected him as a converter before. It wasn't until recently that I put the pieces together and pegged him as cult.
If you did a reread, have u got notes to back it up? Note that this does not tie in with your answer to me in a previous post.
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Lol, ok, once you hang, we'll look at the possibility of a cult. In the meantime, i think you're just rolefishing.
Yeah, I'm rolefishing a game where more than half the players are already claimed. Good job.
Exactly. So why not drop the arrogant tone, and just be up front about it?
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I've seen how you roll, and i think there's a good shot you're scum here.
I've seen you too, BM. This is what you look like as scum. This is not how I look as scum.
Hahaha! Sorry kiddo, but u got it the wrong way round. You're a smart guy, and this bs reads as a smart fakeclaim. However, somebody told me that you're pretty useless as town. So actual participation is your scum meta. And you think i'm playing to my scum meta here? I'm listening. :D
Stark wrote: I hope that you all noticed how BM jumped out of
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Appeal to Authority.
Stark wrote: Tubby is dying today. That's not up for debate.
Right. Well, before he does, mr Cult Cop, sir, can you please explain why Tubby tried to "recruit" Papa Zito last night? :roll:

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