California Trilogy: City of Angels - On Camera (Game Over)

[Mighty Orbots]

HADOUKEN UPDATE

hewitt

KY Krew

- Was on-screen Scene 1
- Iso 8: Calls out KY for staying silent when called upon to participate
- Iso 10: States he will "nail [KY Krew] when they get Off-Camera"
- Iso 13: Votes Panzer
- Iso 14: Agrees with a KY lynch

This is really interesting. Hewitt stays remarkably quiet on the KY issue, basically just saying that he'll deal with KY once KY is stunted back in. But when this happens, he doesn't question KY and doesn't even vote him. Instead he stays on Panzer. This really looks like deflection to me.

Rawr/Pooky

- 0 mention of Rawr.
- Iso 41: Says he's tired of Pooky not doing anything
- Iso 60: Wants Pooky off-stage to lynch him
- Iso 64: Pooky is high on his scum list
- Iso 77: Moar Pooky lynching
- Iso 94: Votes Pooky
- Iso 96: Pooky's wagon isn't going anywhere, but he can't live to endgame
- Several Pooky can't live, is a wild card posts.

Hewitt was anti-Pooky the entire time. What's kinda odd is that he changes his stance on his is 94 vote post from "Pooky is scum" to "Pooky is a wildcard". Also I don't see him trying to convince the town to lynch Pooky, he just repeats that Pooky needs to be lynched over and over. Ironically, when given the chance, he instead hammers Gaspar.

GoofballsAndBaloons

- Iso 9: Condorcet votes GnB 5th
- Iso 11: Condorcet votes GnB 5th
- Iso 13: Condorcet votes GnB 5th
- Iso 98: Accuses GnB of trying to distract from the Gaspar lynch.
- Iso 108: Says GnB's defense of of a Pooky modkill is scummy

There are some other posts where he answers posts from GnB, but nothing else regarding alignment.

Thok

Nothing, whatsoever.

StarKiss (Starbuck/Kise/dramonic)

KY Krew

- Was on-camera Scene 1
- Iso 6: Believes KY is 3rd party
- Iso 10: Condorcet votes KY #1

Very sparse. I'm not thrilled about the 3rd party speculation.

Rawr/Pooky

- 0 mention of Rawr Hydra.
- Iso 39: Lists Pooky towards the bottom of a scumlist
- Iso 52: Pooky seems to have vanished.

The lack of anything regarding Pooky seems deliberate. He mentioned a couple times that they should wait for Pooky to chime in on something, but never condemned him for not participating and also never addressed him directly. It looks especially bad combined with the lack of KY postings.

GoofballsAndBaloons

- Iso 4: Accuses GnB of being contradictory
- Iso 43: Accuses GnB of not being active? I don't understand this post.

As prolific a poster as GnB was in this game, this is all we have. Amazing.

Thok

Nothing, whatsoever

Thesp

KY Krew

- Was on-camera Scene 1
- Iso 4: KY is definitely scum
- Iso 7: Condorcet votes KY
- Iso 12: Votes KY Krew

Not a lot here, but he was on the wagon, so.

Rawr/Pooky

- 0 mention Rawr Hydra
- Iso 33: is "uncomfortable" with Pooky's posts
- Iso 52: Doesn't like Pooky's voting record
- Iso 53: Pooky needs to die

Again, not a lot here.

GoofballsAndBaloons

- Iso 7: Condorcet votes GnB 6th
- Iso 53: Says GnB should die for being wrong the last two scenes

There are a few posts where Thesp agrees with GnB's posts, and a couple where he throws questions at them, but that's it.

Thok

- Iso 58: Has a hard time finding Thok scummy

That's literally it.

VP Baltar, replacing ThebladethatkilledMufasa S2

KY Krew

- Mufblade Iso 7: Listed KY as scum in scumlist
- Mufblade Iso 9: Didn't like KY's actions
- VP Baltar Iso 1: KY Krew is scum (duh)
- VP Baltar Iso 3: Condorcet votes KY #1
- VP Baltar Iso 8: Wants to extract info from KY
- VP Balar Iso 12: Votes KY Krew

All good here. Even the Mufblade part. Wow.

Rawr/Pooky

- No mention of Rawr Hydra by Mufblade
- No mention of Rawr Hydra by VP Baltar (replaced already?)
- VP Baltar Iso 54: Neutral Pooky read
- VP Baltar Iso 65: Pooky posts garbage everywhere!
- VP Baltar Iso 120: Pooky in neutral category
- VP Baltar Iso 126: Dislikes Pooky's on-camera choices but likes his Gaspar attacks
- VP Baltar Iso 133: Pooky is unreadable and unhelpful

I'm really not sure what to think of this. Continually listing Pooky as neutral, without trying to do anything to shift him one way or another, isn't good. However I did see him agreeing with Pooky's points in a couple of spots.

GoofballsAndBaloons

- Mufblade Iso 7: Lists GnB towards the top (town) of a scumlist
- Iso 33: GnB is town
- Iso 54: GnB is town
- Iso 56: Accuses GnB of "looking busy"
- Iso 82: Is definitely against a GnB lynch
- Iso 120: GnB listed nuetral (?)
- Iso 126: GnB nuetral for being non-commital
- Iso 146: Suspicious of GnB for being friendly with Pooky
- Iso 150: Says GnB is townish (?)

I understand the move from town to nuetral, but I don't get the move back to town territory.

Thok

- No mention of Thok by Mufblade
- Iso 47: Bit of a defense of Thok re: scumlist posting
- Iso 54: Wouldn't mind a Thok lynch; disliking playstyle
- Iso 82: Thinks Thok should be dead
- Iso 120: Lists Thok in his list of "People who I think need to be lynched"
- Iso 150: Thok is townish (??)

[Mighty Orbots]

@hewitt: What was your opinion of GnB/Thok in Scene 7?
@Starkiss: The same.
@Thesp: Why didn't you push for a GnB lynch?
@VP: Please explain why GnB and Thok regained town status Iso 150.

[VP Baltar]

@VP: Please explain why GnB and Thok regained town status Iso 150.

Honestly, I can't tell you very accurately because in hindsight I should have been more critical of both of them at that point. I think I probably felt like they were trying to help determine the best way forward with the onstage problem. I was very guilty this game of giving DGB too much leeway because she was putting effort forth (though always conveniently leading to a bad decision).

Thok had been lurking a lot, so seeing more effort from him likely impacted my read when I should have stuck with how I was seeing him earlier.

The length of this game has probably also not been great for me getting consistent reads on who is scum because over a long enough time period, most people end up looking reasonably scummy.

On a side note, thank you very much for pushing through your burnout MO. Makes me feel a lot better about lynching hewitt and starkiss.

[StarKiss]

Don't bust that nut just yet! Net went kaplooey again, and I'm not even home right now. Going to pick up some food and I WILL answer those questions. Scout's honor.

{Kise}

[Thesp]

@Thesp: Why didn't you push for a GnB lynch?

Good question. In part, I thought curiouskarmadog was scum in part for putting all the information roles on-scene in Scene 5 (?), and I pushed hard and heavy for his lynch at that moment. After that, I was onstage for Scene 6. Actually, I don't think I was ever offstage with GoofballsAndBalloons, and I was pushing harder for other people's lynches in between. G&B slipped to a lower priority than perhaps they ought to have.

Still haven't heard from hewitt, and I'm not letting his silence escape us like yesterday. I can't see town acting like this, and it should be pretty clear where I stand. If hewitt's not scum, then I'm happy conceding at this point. I will vote for StarKiss instead if necessary to get his lynch - they're the two I think are scum.

Vote: hewitt

, StarKiss, Mighty Orbots, VP Baltar, [No Lynch, Thesp]

[Mr. Grey]

Vote Count:

3 to lynch.

hewitt: 1 (Thesp)

Not Voting: 4 (hewitt, Mighty Orbots, StarKiss, VP Baltar)

Current Condorcet Winner:

None. Current Smith Set: hewitt, Mighty Orbots, StarKiss, Thesp, VP Baltar, No Lynch

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[StarKiss]

@hewitt: What was your opinion of GnB/Thok in Scene 7?
@Starkiss: The same.

I thought they looked beautiful. I mean, the way they just did away with ShadowLurker so fast without really attempting to play out the day was awe-inspiring. I can only imagine how exhilarating it was to get away with lynching a townie and peeling off... lemme try.

Vote: hewitt

[Mighty Orbots]

Troll gives warm greetings to all in the thread.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Vote: hewitt

[VP Baltar]

@hewitt: What was your opinion of GnB/Thok in Scene 7?
@Starkiss: The same.

I thought they looked beautiful. I mean, the way they just did away with ShadowLurker so fast without really attempting to play out the day was awe-inspiring. I can only imagine how exhilarating it was to get away with lynching a townie and peeling off... lemme try.

Vote: hewitt

So you are claiming scum?

[VP Baltar]

Ah balls. I'm a little slow.

[StarKiss]

Trust me when I say I had no idea I was picking incorrect choices.

[Mr. Grey]

Final Vote Count:

3 to lynch.

hewitt: 3 (Mighty Orbots, StarKiss, Thesp)

Not Voting: 2 (hewitt, VP Baltar)

[Mr. Grey]

Scene 9.3

Mr. Grey:

That's that, then.

Mr. Grey stands and walks over to the bar along the wall to refill his drink. He sits back down and leans back.

Mr. Grey's Assistant:

Aren't you going to get in there and finish things off? You must have some big dramatic reveal in mind.

Mr. Grey:

I suppose I could. But frankly, I don't think this hewitt character deserves it.

[Mr. Grey]

Scene 9.4

The Next Day...

Millions of moviegoers across the world are enthralled by the action, the drama, the romance, and the magic of David Blaine, as City of Angels premieres simultaneously in theaters everywhere.

In fact, they are so drawn into the movie that one might call them brainwashed zombies.

The ending drops on them almost without warning. For five minutes and thirty seven seconds, the five member main cast sits around and does virtually nothing, and then suddenly there are three votes, hewitt is dead and revealed as Ron Howard/Count de Morcerf, the longest surviving role in the film series, and the remaining members of the Church of Scientology immediately turn on the other two and stab them in their faces.

The scene shifts to the other room, where Mr. Grey and Mr. Grey's Assistant had been sitting. They are still sitting there... except their heads have been exploded telekinetically. Blood is everywhere. Mr. Grey's drink has a tinge of red. It is sitting on the table in front of him, along with a golden apple.

The scene shifts back to the two remaining cast members. One of them takes out a large pad of paper like the ones used in the classic game show, Win, Lose, or Draw. The other is sitting nearby, surrounded by computer and musical equipment.

The camera zooms in on the paper as the music begins to play.

No mehum can draw this fast. What flashes before the viewers is as smooth as a video on Youtube. The Scientologists had hoped to have Tom Cruise to do this scene live when they took over the film, but alas, they are forced to improvise...

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Video.

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In theaters everywhere, there is a moment of silence as the cartoonist stops drawing, and the music ends. Then, as one, the newly converted Scientology Zombie Horde rises, turns toward the nearest aisle, and begins to march out of the theater and into the unprepared world...

Roll credits...

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hewitt (Ron Howard, Innocent), Thesp (Clint Eastwood, Innocent), and VP Baltar (Innocent Angeleno, Innocent) are dead.

Mighty Orbots (Danny Elfman, Scientologist), StarKiss (Jack Chick, Scientologist Traitor) and the rest of the Church of Scientology win!

[Mr. Grey]

Roles, etc. to appear here.

Scientologist QuickTopic:

Link

Quick Notes:

The much talked about Scene 1 Advocate PM was both to inject a bit of intrigue in the event that both Advocates ended up being Innocent, and to add confusion to the nature of the scum group/setup. Talitha was closest to figuring it out, though of course no one listened. Had curiouskarmadog chosen to advocate for the wrong choice, and had he been successful, he would have joined the "Screen Mafia Guild", of which he would have been the only member. The Screen Mafia Guild's goal was to get screen time, and his new win condition would have been to get on screen one more time.

Jack Chick only knew that DrippingGoofball was scum. StarKiss joined the group between Scenes 6 and 7 (this was pre-determined, to allow for a little final-scene planning). The group knew they had a traitor, but not who it was (and they thought it was ckd for most of the game).

I was a little surprised no-lynching wasn't considered more. But it probably wouldn't have helped, after the scum turned around the On Camera results.

The secret words in the previous two games were mostly irrelevant, other than hinting at the hidden mechanics. This time, they clued Mr. Grey's true identity, and the scum were able to successfully figure it out (with the help of Gaspar asking for them), getting a -2 bonus toward Endgame.

Aside from the AP (which was confirmed innocent in the Endgame), there were two non-vanilla Actors on the Innocent side - Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were daytalking masons. They were given fakeclaims, and the scum were told that at least one non-vanilla role existed so that they could try to eliminate them before Endgame.

There were a couple of mistakes that slipped into the role PMs that I didn't catch until claim time - the win condition changed between adding the Sample PM to the Rules and sending out PMs; Thesp caught it, but fortunately hewitt and VP Baltar did not. VP Baltar's PM said "Role Name" instead of Actor Name, another mistake that slipped in because it was copied from the Sample.

Scum had three kills to use total. They decided to use two at once to add to the "two group" confusion - which worked to some extent, but also meant they couldn't get rid of both masons and the AP once they figured them out.

The participation/modkill rules did not go as well as I had hoped. I think strict rules can work in theory, but they need some more tweaking, and I need to be far more selective about who I let into the game in the first place.

[Talitha]

But how can

this face

possibly be scum?

[VP Baltar]

Good job, MO. Had me fooled. Your quick hammer yesterday was strange.

This game was very frustrating and difficult for a number of reasons and I'm glad it's over, but I had a lot of fun too.

Thanks for the great game, mith!

[Zachrulez]

I'm surprised he didn't get considered for a lynch due to that quick hammer.

[Zachrulez]

Also, it looks like we were on the same side afterall VP... but at least I was right about Goofball.

[DrippingGoofball]

Aye aye aye

This game was an uphill battle alright... really really tough... had me biting my nails like crazy.

It was fun though! Great modding, thank you mith and I HATE Scientologists! That Tom Cruise video is hilarious.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, it looks like we were on the same side afterall VP... but at least I was right about Goofball.

Yeah, we had to kill you.

[Zachrulez]

Also, it looks like we were on the same side afterall VP... but at least I was right about Goofball.

Yeah, we had to kill you.

So I assume that was why?

[Zorblag]

No, we knew your secret as well. We had known since about scene 3 when Troll alluded to it in the off camera thread. Troll was surprised the rest of the town no noticed it but many things surprise Troll.

Actually, the hammer yesterday was really an accident but Papa Zito can talk about that if him wants to.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, it looks like we were on the same side afterall VP... but at least I was right about Goofball.

Yeah, we had to kill you.

So I assume that was why?

Oh yeah.

[DrippingGoofball]

And the mason thing I massively alluded to without anyone picking it up. Thanks for the reminder, troll!