926 A Game of Thrones Mafia - Over.

[Confucius]

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The GLaDOS post is mine.

[Percy]

If we have a liar (or liars) amongst the current claimants, I think The Inquisition fits the bill the best, followed by TheButtonmen.

I've already outlined my thoughts on The Inquisition.

TheButtonmen still hasn't clarified his limitations. He concluded that he was RBed on N1 due to his "No Result", but from now he may get "No Result" from being RBed or from his limitation (apparently). I think it's a very convenient scumclaim and I'm not buying it. I want a full and complete claim from TBM tomorrow.

I was getting pro-town vibes from Raivann's consideration of the PR limitations but the fact that he stated that Mac's lack of limits was a factor and now admits it makes no difference to him just makes me think he's set on lynching Mac whatever.

It certainly seems to me like desparate scum lashing out just before their lynch.

I am highly suspicious of Kinetic's and Seacore's votes. I don't know why they're voting Raivann rather than TheButtonmen (especially Seacore), and I get the strong feeling they're using the deadline to cover up their lack of motivations. If Raivann is lynched, then regardless of his flip, I think this is scummy play from both of them.

Raivann should claim. It's less than 24 hours to deadline.

[Seacore]

Percy, I would prefer Buttonmen lynched. But with less than 24 hours to go, I moved to the larger wagon.
I'm incredibly busy at work and also have no internet at home for the time being. So I voted in case I couldn't return.

[Raivann]

Wow! This is like the Red Wedding.

I can't believe im getting lynched D2. This is a terrible mislynch.

I am Robb Stark, heir to Winterfell, you murderous scummy Frey bastards!

I am Innocent Aligned.

I can use Grey Wind for 1 DayKill so I better go ahead and use it now before I get lynched...

Kill: Kinetic

However, Vote: Raiv. He has failed to answer questions, there is the kill method tell, and as the final straw, has taken an easy route in putting himself on my wagon. If I had a second vote, it would go to The Inq. I'm done with his lack of response to the questions put forth, and his 546 is awful. (P.S. @mod, it's almost time for an Inq prod.)

That's a great case.
I'll ask again , What is kill method tell?
So I wasnt posting much for 4 or 5 days so I'm not answering questions?


If I don't get another post - Good Luck Mina and Confucius, you're gonna need it!

Unvote, Vote : TheButtonmen

Because I know I'm town and his lynch seems like the only alternative to mine.

[Raivann]

Ok I missed Percy's and Seacore last posts.
I thought I was lynch for sure so I lied hopeing to get Kinetic to respond to me trying to kill him.
I can't daykill I am just Innocent Aligned, no special powers.

But I like Percy's last post alot and Seacore gets swayed too easy.

So unvote me Percy and Seacore, I'm freakin town!!!

[TheButtonmen]

I thought I was lynch for sure so I lied hopeing to get Kinetic to respond to me trying to kill him.

Why would you backtrack then the minuet it looked like you might not be lynched? You already made the gambit, why not wait and see the outcome?

[Raivann]

Because I don't wanna get lynched if I can help it!

[Raivann]

@Percy- What do you think of a Kinetic, TheInq. scumteam?

I can see what your saying about why he claimed he was targeted.

I now support the following lynches:

Kinetic
MacLock
The Inq.
LockeLamora
Buttonmen

In that order.

[MacavityLock]

If you just day-killed Kinetic, do you need to support his lynch?

[Raivann]

Hi I'm MacavityLock and I'm scum.

[Kinetic]

Hi I'm Raivann and I'm caught, squirming scum. Please die now.

[Raivann]

Hi Kinetic, Still actively lurking the thread i see.

[TheButtonmen]

So you gambited, blew it the minuet it looked like you weren't going to be lynched then claimed VT.

VTing; your doing it wrong.

[Raivann]

Ha! I love that.

My friends and I say that. It's from Mr.Mom when he enters the exit for pickup of his kids- " You're doing it wrong!"

But yeah,anyways, I have no Idea what your talking about.

Are you trying to set me up for your upcoming vote?

I'm here posting until I get lynched. With my Jameson Whiskey+Pepsi's.

Someone please unvote me before Buttonmen hammers!

[MacavityLock]

Sorry about that, I missed that fact that Raiv lied about his daykill as I was in the middle of a roto baseball draft. I still feel pretty good about Raiv lynch.

[Raivann]

How surprising Mac.

C'mon town! - by that I mean Mina, Con.,Seacore, maybe Percy. We can't afford another mislynch!!

[TheButtonmen]

Raiv any reads, ideas, cases you wana make? Rather then just repeating that your town.

[Raivann]

Yes, Thank you for asking.

I really like Mina as town, duh.

I really like Kinetic and MacLock as scum.

I see scum letting Seacore live to endgame because he is wishy washy.

If town loses I blame TheInq. and Seacore(if they're town)

And if you're town Buttonmen, a town loss is totally your fault. You have played very poorly. You didn't even try to scumhunt D1. I must admit I like your MacavityLock vote, but you sure as hell haven't been helpful in your claim or your scumhunting.

[The Inquisition]

This is unusual, but given that if true Raivan's supposed kill should theoretically go through immediately, it's just the mod's absence that keeps it from happening, i'm going to do an if/then thing. I just don't think that raivann's gambit (if he's lying) of playing the deadline should be rewarded just because of a mod's absence (not his fault obviously)

IF Raivann's day kill went through:

vote: thebuttonman

IF there is no day kill:

vote: Raivann

[TheButtonmen]

Sigh, read the thread people; The Daykill was a lie, he then claimed VT.

[Raivann]

Bah!, Go Town!

[Percy]

I don't know if The Inquisition's vote is going to be counted. I think it will be.

I think that is just about the scummiest way I've

ever

seen someone hammer

.

Unvote, Vote: TheButtonmen

, just in case; if there was a wagon on The Inquisition, I'd sure as hell join it, and if I'm alive tomorrow I'm going to see The Inquisition lynched.

I actually believe Raivann now; his final posts read like town to me, and though the "gambit" wasn't very good, I don't think it makes him scum, and I don't see anyone giving me compelling reasons to think that it makes him scum.

I think Seacore's excuse of jumping from a 3-person wagon to a 4-person wagon with almost 24 hours before deadline is pretty poor; instead of trying to show the town why Raivann was a better lynch, he used the deadline excuse.

I think The Inq is scum. I think Kinetic is likely scum. I think TheButtonmen is also likely scum. I think Seacore may be scum, but is probably just playing a very anti-town game. I think MacavityLock, Mina, Confucius, Raivann and Locke are town.

[Confucius]

The quotes of Percy:

Raivann

His Unvote on Seacore gives him a few points, but his vote on my predecessor sits really oddly, as though he's content to let another VI lurker get lynched without following up on any of the other players in the game. Mild scumread.

I appreciate it, Raivann, but is that all you've got? Seriously?

It's a few days before deadline, and your lurker vote didn't pan out, and you've said things like this:

The Inq. brought the pressure on himself by saying he was targeted by scum and that he was semi BP.

I'm kinda suspicious of the players who are voting him actually.

...and no comment?

I say we lynch The Inq, and if he flips scum, we lynch his buddy Raivann.

I think Raivann is looking like a very good lynch also, but nothing has persuaded me to move my vote from The Inquisition.

But right now, I am happier with a dead Raivann, the obv caught scum.

Unvote, Vote: Raivann.

So, who to lynch, who to lynch, who to lynch.

Right now I'm still thinking Raivann, but I want TheButtonmen to answer my two questions/requests before I make up my mind. I could get down with a The Inq lynch also.

Raivann should claim. It's less than 24 hours to deadline.

I actually believe Raivann now; his final posts read like town to me, and though the "gambit" wasn't very good, I don't think it makes him scum, and

I don't see anyone giving me compelling reasons to think that it makes him scum.

What concerns me is the bolded section of Percy's very last quote. He obviously saw "compelling reasons" to vote for Raivann since he had been voting Raivann for four pages, and then did not unvote Raivann when Raivann was one vote away from being lynched. Unvoting after you know a player has been lynched is disingenuous. Claiming that nobody has given "compelling reasons" for Raivann being scum while you yourself supposedly gave compelling reasons is further disingenuous.

FoS: Percy

I am now adding Percy to my suggestions of players to be nightkilled by MacavityLock. Obviously, TheButtonMen is a fourth suggestion since he was somehow not lynched for a second day in a row.

[Confucius]

And now is the point where I realize I read Percy's post too quickly -- he was saying that he did not see anybody giving compelling reasons why the gambit in particular made Raivann scum. Which is still odd since he himself does not give any compelling reasons why such a gambit would make Raivann Town. In theory, it could have been an attempt to (i) cast doubt on his own lynch, or (ii) distance from Kinetic, or (iii) see if he might get Kinetic to claim his role before deadline.

These are simply theoretical reasons, of course: I have never really suspected Raivann in this game. I hope Raivann is scum now that he is lynched, but seeing as this just looks like the Heilograph lynch all over again, I rather doubt it.

I am highly suspicious of Kinetic's and Seacore's votes. I don't know why they're voting Raivann rather than TheButtonmen (especially Seacore), and I get the strong feeling they're using the deadline to cover up their lack of motivations. If Raivann is lynched, then regardless of his flip, I think this is scummy play from both of them.

This post was made while Raivann was one vote away from being lynched. By not unvoting Raivann, Percy was tacitly consenting to a hammer.

Denouncing the make-up of a wagon while you yourself choose to stay on the wagon is scummy.

My second FoS on Percy stands, albeit on different reasoning.

[Percy]

@Confucius

: I will re-quote myself here:

I actually believe Raivann now; his final posts read like town to me

I've had some experience reading about-to-be-lynched posts, and Raivann feels town. I pushed hard against him, and I wanted him lynched all the way up until his posts on this page.

I was very suspicious of the makeup of the wagon, but I was still happy with my reasoning, so I kept my vote on. I was not "tacitly consenting" to the hammer; I specifically asked for a claim, not a hammer vote. Once the claim came and I read his posts, I became pretty sure my read was wrong. The Inquisition's incredibly scummy hammer sealed the deal on this being almost certainly a mislynch.

I also saw people making a big deal about Raivann's gambit, but I read it as a bad play from a desperate townie. The Inquisition

hammered because of it

, and I don't know why.

I want Raivann to be scum, but I don't think it's going to be the case. The justifications that people like Seacore, Kinetic and The Inquisition used are all incredibly weak, and my gut is telling me he is town. I can't give you any concrete reasons why I think this is the case; however, I saw a drastic townie shift in his attitude right at the end, and I cannot square his words with a scum motivation.