A Clash of Kings - A Divided Kingdom

[Rifka Viveka]

If you have an issue with it, vote for me. I'm in the playerslot now, so if you really think it's that much of an issue, vote for me. Bringing up things from Modem for no reason is scummy, and just a way to get people suspicious of me without putting yourself out there.

Right, your posting decently for now so i prefer to let it play out. Voting for you now, would simply be a way for someone to hide behind a vote that couldnt be defended against.

[Eddard Stark]

Vote count 1.6: The '

As the gods will it. Bring on your storm, my lord - and recall, if you do, the name of this castle

' votecount

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Lynch Count

Deer (1) -

Rifka Viveka

Super Smash Bros. Fan (3) -

CCARaven4, Kleedrac, Unsight

LynchMePls (1) -

Mikujin

animorph (1) -

Deer

RichardGHP (9) -

CryMeARiver, MacavityLock, I doubt it, LynchMePls, xvart, Drippereth, MagnaOfIllusion, danakillsu, vezopiraka

CryMeARiver (1) -

RichardGHP

MagnaOfIllusion (1) -

Axelrod

Drippereth (2) -

animorpherv1, Benmage

Migwelloni (2) -

Migwelloni, Mina

Vezopiraka (1) -

Hayker

Hayker (1) -

Percy

Not voting to Lynch (3) - Paranoia, hasdgfas, Super Smash Bros. Fan.

Hand of the King Count

Kleedrac (2) -

Kleedrac, Deer

Super Smash Bros. Fan (1) -

Super Smash Bros. Fan

Mikujin (1) -

Mikujin

xvart (2) -

Percy, xvart

MacavityLock (1) -

MacavityLock

CryMeARiver (2) -

CryMeARiver, Axelrod

RichardGHP (1)-

RichardGHP

Axelrod (3) -

vezopiraka, MagnaOfIllusion, danakillsu

Benmage (1) -

Benmage

I doubt it (1) -

I doubt it

Not voting to Raise (11) - Unsight, Paranoia, animorpherv1, Migwelloni, Hayker, Rifka Viveka, Drippereth, Mina, LynchMePls, CCARaven4, hasdgfas

With 26 alive, it takes 14 to lynch and raise.

The deadline for today's lynch is

10:00pm (site time) on Tuesday the 22nd of June

. You can view a countdown to the deadline

here

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[LimMePls]

Hmm.

So you agree with Percy's defence of Richard, attack of Hayker, and suspicions of CMAR in 213? Are there any points of his you disagree with?

Uhm, did you read 213? Here it is...

@Cow

: Hayker's catchup post reads as conjuring up reasons (while parroting others) to jump on a wagon. The case itself is weak and overreaching, and nothing else about the game was discussed.

Catchup posts like yours give me townvibes, but I'd like you to put your vote somewhere. Catchup posts like Hayker's give me scumvibes.

Also, I use "site time" when I run my games; it's the time as displayed on the

Forum Index

page, top left corner.

Where does he defend Richard here or mention suspicions of CMAR?

What I agree with from this post is liking Cow's catchup post, and not liking Hayker's. Cow's was actually useful, and Hayker's was useless. All he does is point out the obvious strange posts of vezo, then claims to have more to say, but only wants one topic per post. So where are the other posts?

@Mina Why did you assume that I was agreeing with a defense of Richard or an attack of CMAR? Did you read 213 that I was agreeing with before accusing me of that?

[Mina]

Sorry, LynchMePlz. I mixed up 200 and 213. My next post was going to be, "HAHA, caught you flipflopping on Richard!" but the error is on my end.

[CryMeARiver]

Okay, I will get caught up soon, but to those voting to raise axelrod, I would just like to say that whoever gets the double vote will likely die quickly and axelrod already endorsed me getting the double vote. I'm willing to take that sacrifice for town. I'll admit axel seems to be a very good player and I'll likely take his advice into consideration when using a double vote. Just putting it out there.
By the way, glad to see the Richard wagon is taking off. Pillars of the evil king's castle are finally falling 2day.

[Deer]

Okay, I will get caught up soon, but to those voting to raise axelrod, I would just like to say that whoever gets the double vote will likely die quickly and axelrod already endorsed me getting the double vote. I'm willing to take that sacrifice for town. I'll admit axel seems to be a very good player and I'll likely take his advice into consideration when using a double vote. Just putting it out there.
By the way, glad to see the Richard wagon is taking off. Pillars of the evil king's castle are finally falling 2day.

I don't know if this is scummy or just arrogant.

By the way, Richard is playing straight into his scum meta. I don't want to talk about ongoing games, but I've seen him flip scum and he played basically exactly like this. Making jokes about his scumminess, being scummy, etc.

unvote, vote: Richard

unraise

until I find a suitably pro-town player.

[Drippereth]

FOUR more will lynch Richard.

Now. For the raising. The towniest player besides myself is Percy.

We have a question.

Who would be in favor of raising the Drippereth hydra? Who would be against? Please explain your decision.

[danakillsu]

I would be in favor. Drippereth is a good alternative to CMAR or axelrod. If a few people decided to raise Drippereth, I would definitely do it, although I would prefer to raise axelrod. My reasoning is that I have no reason to believe Drippereth is scum, and they are definitely experienced enough to handle a double-vote properly.

[LimMePls]

@Drip: I would consider raising you, because so far I think you've been pretty town. I even find a strange amusement in giving a hydra two votes. However, you yourself pointed out in 152 that you draw a lot of NKs. Do we need to compound the problem by drawing a huge bullseye on you?

[Drippereth]

Sometimes we make it past day 2 if there is no outed cop or similarly important power role drawing protectio - otherwise the scum may assume that we are protected, since we tend to be a priority NK target.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Defindently

unraise

. I have a few pro-town reads now.

We have a question.

Who would be in favor of raising the Drippereth hydra? Who would be against? Please explain your decision.

I'll be in favor of raising you. Like others said, you have been playing very well. Although I prefer to raise Macavity Lock instead, you're not a bad choice either.

[Unsight]

Defindently

unraise

. I have a few pro-town reads now.

We have a question.

Who would be in favor of raising the Drippereth hydra? Who would be against? Please explain your decision.

I'll be in favor of raising you. Like others said, you have been playing very well. Although

I prefer to raise Macavity Lock instead

, you're not a bad choice either.

The same MacavityLock who suddenly perked up when I vote you but still manages to put you in his dislikes? You scum buddies are funny.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Plus, I had no idea you thought my slot was scummier. You didn't mention anything about Dr Modem/Me in that post, no "I still think Modem is scummier than Richard". It just looked like you were being overly cautious in terms of jumping on the wagon.

I'll explain why I found your slot originally scummy

He stated that RVS doesn't end for him until Day 2. If we stayed in RVS until Day 2, we would have gather almost no information and it would severely hurt the town in the long run. He contradicted that post in ISO: 7 by saying there was no random voting "period", saying he makes one random vote until something solid grabbed his mind. When asked to explain a couple of things, he backs down and replaces out. This is why I considered you my top suspect at the time.

9) Super Smash Bros. Fan, I'd have felt much better about you if you'd stood your ground when Dripp asked you why you had no read on Richard. Instead you quickly tried to appease them, by saying "Yes, now that you mention it, I've just seen the light on that scummy scumbag!" Furthermore, you copied vezopiraka's reasoning for suddenly suspecting Richard.

1. I was more concentrated on my other suspects (DrModem at the time, Vezopiraka, and CryMeARiver) and I never really saw why RichardGHP was originally scummy. Looking back at his posts, I finally knew what people were talking about when they were suspecting RichardGHP.

2. I'd like for you to explain why I parroted Vezopiraka. I haven't seen my reasons for suspecting RichardGHP being explained by anyone else really.

[Eddard Stark]

Ani, Kleedrac and Mikujin have all been prodded.

[hasdgfas]

5)

@Cow:

if you weren't paying attention, I explained the nameclaiming joke two posts down. It's a reference to Faraday's

A Game of Thrones

mini, which had a few of the same players. Re: townleading, I see where Percy (funny, his read on Richard is pretty much the same as mine on CMAR) is coming from more than you. When I think of townleading, I think of vocal players who are very active and engaged, play assertively, lead lynches, and try to solve the game. Accusing someone of being scum for "leading the town" (read: playing well) is one of my absolute worst pet peeves.

Also, you realize that Unsight's point was that people

can

change their mind over three months, right?

Yes, I saw the explanation, but didn't think much of it either way when I read it over time. Keep in mind that at the time I mentioned your post, I hadn't seen your explanation
Re:Unsight's post: It seems to be worded strangely if that's the case.
Also, THANK YOU for helping me see one of the reasons why SSBF was making me feel strange about him. I hadn't noticed the appeasement particularly, but I did feel weird about that post and couldn't figure out why.

English is not my first language.

All right, that was my guess. How comfortable are you with the language?

Okay, I will get caught up soon, but to those voting to raise axelrod, I would just like to say that whoever gets the double vote will likely die quickly and axelrod already endorsed me getting the double vote. I'm willing to take that sacrifice for town. I'll admit axel seems to be a very good player and I'll likely take his advice into consideration when using a double vote. Just putting it out there.
By the way, glad to see the Richard wagon is taking off. Pillars of the evil king's castle are finally falling 2day.

BUDDYING ALERT. BUDDYING ALERT. MAN THE HATCHES

vote: CMAR

Not just that, but trying to take the double vote from axelrod as a "sacrifice" rubs me incredibly wrong. Plus, saying he'll likely take axel's advice under consideration is NOT a town move. It's a scum move. If you're town, why wouldn't you use your vote as YOUR VOTE. If you're going to just take his advice, we should give it to him. Also, the acknowledgement of the Richard wagon give me bad vibes. Wish I could put my finger on why.

Who would be in favor of raising the Drippereth hydra? Who would be against? Please explain your decision.

No. I have too many problems trying to read a hydra to give you a double vote. The only possible way I'd consider it is if you each started signing your posts with whichever of you two made it.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Defindently

unraise

. I have a few pro-town reads now.

We have a question.

Who would be in favor of raising the Drippereth hydra? Who would be against? Please explain your decision.

I'll be in favor of raising you. Like others said, you have been playing very well. Although

I prefer to raise Macavity Lock instead

, you're not a bad choice either.

The same MacavityLock who suddenly perked up when I vote you but still manages to put you in his dislikes? You scum buddies are funny.

First off, just because a person might be suspecting me doesn't mean that I get a scum read on them. That's like saying I suspected you because you suspected me.

Secondly, MacavityLock expressed his dislike of my raising, not of me in general.

[animorpherv1]

Been prodded. Will look intp the Richard lynch.

[Benmage]

I refer to the process of raising the expectation of evidence to an unreasonable level early in the game. Its the extended version of a player getting caught in the RVS and defending himself using the argument ''you cant catch scum in the RVS''. Why would you even use the word ''concrete'' in that context?

Unreasonable evidence?? Drip said it was in his iso, I was asking for him to highlight it or rephrase it for me...how is that unreasonable?

Im sure you have played mafia offsite. Perhaps you have played in a game heavy with roles, where the players spend more time explaining why the scum cant be caught and this that and the next thing are null cause they do it to. Then they no lynch and wait for cops and vigs to bail them out. This attitude pisses me off. We can find scum, we probably already have and several people need to be gunned down

This is just a retarded ramble...if anything I think cops/investigative roles take away from games and players using skill to play. Moreover I could never be construed as a "fence-sitter" or idle person waiting for someone else to do my job for me. And whats this offsite reference? I'm one of if not the, most experienced and best player in this game (from this site).

Then ill reverse the question;how does your vote on drip find lynch scum? You think drip should be lynched?

1) Tis a work in progress.
2) Yes.

[animorpherv1]

[]bunvote, vote Richard[/b]

Not sxumhunting, trying to extend RVS... etc.

[animorpherv1]

unvote, vote Richard

Not scumhunting, trying to extend RVS... etc.

EBWOP.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

animorpherv1's return post was most defindently not to my satisfaction. He just deliberately parroted other people on why he suspected RichardGHP. I'm going to

FomS: animorpherv1

for now.

@animorpherv1: Do you have any original reasons for voting RichardGHP and do you have other suspects in your mind?

[Drippereth]

Unsight is feisty. I'm liking it.

[Mikujin]

Hopping on the Richard bandwagon for now, 'til I have more time to read through the last few pages I've missed.

Unvote
Vote: Richard

And while I'm at it...

Unraise

'til I get to scan said pages and get a solid read on someone.

[Rifka Viveka]

You trying to troll me, benmage?

[Migwelloni]

unvote

vote: richardhgb

I like a good bandwagon