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Post Post #525 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:21 am

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Chrono's had an idea. executioner. In that case, given how it's typically a scum role, that would indicate def. two scum teams, as they wouldn't kill their own. and I'm guessing, given Kise's history of Vote Manipulation roles, that he just might include one. (SE I - Vote thief + Death sentencer (kill after 10 votes placed - negated if lynch in under 10 votes - we used FoSes | SE II -
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Vote Count:

PranaDevil: 2
(vezokpiraka, xRECKONERx)
bv310: 1
(bill1148)
inHimshallibe: 1
(KDub)

Not Voting:

bv310
Chronopie
Fate
Glork
inHimshallibe
Midnight's Sorrow
PranaDevil
quadz08
Zazier

Lynch:

7 votes.

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August 11th - 3:00 AM EST
Last edited by Kise on Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Post #526 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:23 am

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^I'm a lover of harebrained ideas

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Post Post #527 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:41 am

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Harebrained ideas and setup spec is my forte. prior knowledge of a mod helps a bit. :wink:
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Post Post #528 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:20 am

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Executioner sounds right. I'm guessing that it was probably antitown, as I don't see a protown player using it that early in D2.
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Post Post #529 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:21 am

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Vote: Fate
, I like parity.

I'll read up on Prana and try to summarize my precise thoughts on him later, I honestly just don't feel like doing it right now.
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Post Post #530 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:20 pm

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Retrospectively, it's a good thing I didn't claim my buddies N1 in the QT. JP would have handed them straight to his buddies. amirite? reck?
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Post Post #531 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:26 pm

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I'm pretty sure a

Vote: Bv
works right about now.

Already told Chrono and Reck in the QT what I thought/cared about the lynch yesterday. Speculation is pretty fail lets just lynch scumzorz.
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Post Post #532 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:43 pm

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Fate wrote:I'm pretty sure a

Vote: Bv
works right about now.

Already told Chrono and Reck in the QT what I thought/cared about the lynch yesterday. Speculation is pretty fail lets just lynch scumzorz.
Works for me.

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Post Post #533 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:44 pm

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Oh shit. Wait. Wait. UNVOTE: BV

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I Shall No... Ah fuck it. reVOTE: BV
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Post Post #534 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:07 pm

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@Bill (or Chrono, or Fate):
Can you explain the case on BV?
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Post Post #535 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:25 pm

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Bah, would be V/LA starting this friday, but I've got no internet at home anymore :(
So, V/LA from today till 8th August


However, I expect Bill to respond to my points against him. You can look for themselves.
And I want to correct you as I didn't suspect Devo. Nice try, Bill.
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Post Post #536 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:44 pm

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bv wagon.
Something tells me it's a bad wagon. Anyway people voted for him. Nobody wants a MS or prana wagon so I will switch to bv
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Post Post #537 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:27 pm

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Vote: BV


I had some thoughts on something or another about the people in my QT, but I've forgotten them...

my brain is fried atm...

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Post Post #538 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:47 am

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._.
BV is town.
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Post Post #539 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:47 am

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Hoooooley crap. Are we REALLY just throwing our votes around like this, after what happened yesterday? This is a recipe for disaster. As far as I can tell, there is no case of any kind on BV, but there's 5 votes on him. He's at L-2.
vezok wrote: Something tells me it's a bad wagon. Anyway people voted for him. Nobody wants a MS or prana wagon so I will switch to bv
What the hell? "Gee, a whole bunch of people are voting for this guy, I guess I'll vote for him too,
even though I think it's a bad wagon
." That is just horrendous.

We have got to stop throwing our votes around like they're confetti. It's too dangerous in this game.
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Post Post #540 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:13 am

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quadz08 wrote:As far as I can tell, there is no case of any kind on BV, but there's 5 votes on him. He's at L-2.
This.

vezo's reasoning sucks, but to be fair, it's consistent with what I've seen of his town play.
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Post Post #541 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:11 am

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quadz08 wrote:@Bill (or Chrono, or Fate):
Can you explain the case on BV?
Wagon hopping, for the most part. And the one time he exhibits an actual thought it was full of crap. Though admittedly, not as bad as Midnight or Fate.
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Post Post #542 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:13 am

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Woah, L-2 already?! This wagon feels scummy. I think I'll go elsewhere :flipflop:

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Post Post #543 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:16 am

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Post Post #544 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:44 am

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Bill, you're ignoring again.

Also, forgot to
VOTE: Bill
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Post Post #545 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:49 am

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Vote: quadz
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Post Post #546 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:23 am

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That wagon was far too easy for scum Bv.

Also there's definitely two scum teams with that many easy votes.

LETS LOOK BACK AT WHO JUMPED ON:
bv wagon.
Something tells me it's a bad wagon. Anyway people voted for him. Nobody wants a MS or prana wagon so I will switch to bv
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vote bv
lol works for me. Quadz is probably town. Haven't really read Bill.

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Post Post #547 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:42 am

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What do you want Zaz?
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Post Post #548 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:43 am

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@Billy
First things first. You are Billy. Live with it. Ignoring me is the dumbest move you can make.
Anyway, I'd like to have a little bit of mafia theory with you. One game says nothing about a player. I can give many examples. But to keep it short, I'll keep it with Chrono for now. How do you know he always plays like that as scum? How do you know he doesn't do the same as town? These can't be answered based upon one game.
Might have more on this later on, but for now, one question: How come you've never asked Chrono for his reason(s) to vote Quadz?
I'm also interested in hearing what your definition is when you state that somebody is being wa
There might be more. You look for the rest, I gave you a headstart
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Post Post #549 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:31 am

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Anyway, I'd like to have a little bit of mafia theory with you. One game says nothing about a player. I can give many examples. But to keep it short, I'll keep it with Chrono for now. How do you know he always plays like that as scum? How do you know he doesn't do the same as town? These can't be answered based upon one game.
Sure they can't, but it's still something to go on. Anyway, this is a bit of a strawman. Wagoners in general come off as scummy and Chrono isn't the only one I mentioned, other notables being bv and Midnight (Fate and inHim to a lesser extent). This is fairly irrelevant now, however, since Chrono is pretty much confirmed Town given his role, despite some scummy play (same as vezok).
Might have more on this later on, but for now, one question: How come you've never asked Chrono for his reason(s) to vote Quadz?
If a player doesn't give a reason in the post he votes, or if the reasons for the player they voted for aren't found at all in their previous posts, I assume they don't have a reason or it's a reason they'd prefer to keep to themselves (the latter being far less likely).
I'm also interested in hearing what your definition is when you state that somebody is being wagony
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Wagony/wagoners/"jumping on the bandwagon"- name or reference for someone who agrees with the majority or the "popular" choice with little or no reasoning or under flawed/shoddy logic, usually in repeated occurrences.

Examples:
Poster A- *offers lengthy, in-depth analysis of [insert player's name]. Votes for that player.*
Poster B- "I agree with above poster. Vote [insert same player's name that Player A voted for]"

Poster A, C, D, E- Vote [insert player] under some sort of reasoning
Poster B- "I agree, that guy looks scummy. Vote [same player]"

In general, it's the mid-late wagon (around when a player is 2-4 votes from death, though this varies depending on the majority needed to lynch), as well as simply just being apart of every single successful lynching, and the voting for a player under no reasoning other than the "I agree" excuse, that I tend to look for. bv, Midnight, Fate, and to a lesser extent, inHim, are the biggest perpetrators here.
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