Square Enix III: (Game over)

[Glork]

RECK: Was information shared (I don't want to know WHAT information, just a yes/no would be fine) in your QT that would lead you to believe that Quadz would definitely want to take out the entire rest of the QT? I feel like I should follow you, because you're acting like you understand something that the rest of us can't, but there are a few people I kind of want dead today.

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Vote Count:

quadz08: 1

(xRECKONERx)

Not Voting:

bill1148
bv310
Glork
KDub
Midnight's Sorrow
PranaDevil
quadz08
vezokpiraka
ZazieR

Lynch:

6 votes.

Deadline:

August 17th - 11:30 PM EST

[Glork]

EBWOQP:

My own posting D1 was pretty shitty, except that I was right about a massive Chrono/Fate connection. Unfortunately, Fate was being retarded, and Chrono wasn't much better so I took it and ran in the COMPLETELY WRONG DIRECTION. :/
I will, however, readily answer any

questions about how I felt about Chrono/Fate

.

Added underlined. My habit of trying to post like 30 thoughts at once and then forgetting to finish a sentence continues.

[PranaDevil]

FUCKING KNEW IT.
THANKS CHRONO
THANKS FOR NOT TELLING OUR QT WHO THE OTHER MASONS ARE
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?

Vote: quadz

Hate to point this out, but if Quadz is scummy to you, then surely that's a plus point? If Chrono had told your QT who the others are then Quadz could have taken them out?

So based on that logic, it would have been poor judgement to release the names. Hell, Glork even said about it in our QT asking if anyone was with them to make sure they didn't spill anything once we found out 100% there was two scum teams. I'd hope even with the piss poor logic Chrono was spouting in the last day phase that he wouldn't be stupid enough to go revealing stuff to unconfirmed players.

Based on that though, I'm actually rather suspect of Quadz, I'm not even really sure what, but something has been niggling at me for a while. So for now I'll put my vote in that direction.

Vote: Quadz

[vezokpiraka]

Quadz bandwagon. YAY. It was supposed to happen sometime soon. Glad it happens now.

unvote
Vote Quadz

[quadz08]

And the unabashed vote-throwing continues...

[Glork]

Quadz bandwagon. YAY. It was supposed to happen sometime soon. Glad it happens now.

unvote
Vote Quadz

Why exactly are you suspicious of Quadz?

[vezokpiraka]

He was the major wagon day 1 if IIRC. Then everybody switched to Dram.
Look where that led us to. I think the dram wagon was just a counter wagon for quadz.

[PranaDevil]

He was the major wagon day 1 if IIRC. Then everybody switched to Dram.
Look where that led us to. I think the dram wagon was just a counter wagon for quadz.

Not so sure it was a "counter" wagon so much, as I feel Dram was acting scummy. However I do feel that scum possibly latched onto it quickly.

[Kdub]

I semi-take back what I said about Prana late yesterday. Since inHim turned out to be an executioner, it wasn't a general ability that killed JP, so inHim wasn't trying to divert from a Prana wagon. Also, I had mixed up Prana and vezo on the JP wagon. Prana is not cleared, but I'm less suspicious of him than I was before last night.

I'm liking a quadz wagon at the moment. His play toward the end of yesterday did not look so good. He was fence-sitting on bill and indicated vague suspicion of others without really doing much.
VOTE: quadz

[Glork]

Meh. Quadz, go ahead and claim. You're at Lynch-2 right now.

[vezokpiraka]

Meh. Quadz, go ahead and claim. You're at Lynch-2 right now.

No he is not.
He is at L-3 at the moment.
Also This comes pretty weird with the comment you had in the QT. I think you are scum. You are now trying to force a claim out of someone. I really don't like your play. For all we know Fate could have possibly had a guilty result on you and that's why he chased you like hell.

Seriously this has to stop.

unvote Quadz
Vote Glork

For reference. Glork said in the QT something about the other scum team not shooting him because they don't want to cross kill.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Well I'm certainly not one to believe that Glork can't be scum based on excellent play(of which Im pretty envious of Glork .-. but I hardly have the attention span for most of that shit xD)

But I do believe he explained what he meant by those statements Vezok

[vezokpiraka]

Yes he did. Problem is he said he was sleepy. That equals scum slip to me. He has to die.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Not really. Thats just a lame reason to lynch someone.

[vezokpiraka]

It's just weird. He posts that which could easilly be a scum slip and Fate dies. Fate who had a big case on Glork. It's pretty obvious that Fate would have investigate Glork tonight.

[Glork]

It's just weird. He posts that which could easilly be a scum slip and Fate dies. Fate who had a big case on Glork. It's pretty obvious that Fate would have investigate Glork tonight.

Two things.

First, Fate had decided to follow Reck's lead and believe that I'm protown. Look at these two posts:

Fate, Glork isn't scum.

Reck he's tellin everyone who to protect and shit.

That shit ain't right.

Unvote:
Vote: Inhim

It just ain't fuckin right.

BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

After Gears of War mafia, lurkers get the rope.

What does this say to you, if not "Glork is playing shitty but fine, I'll take your word that he's not scum."

Secondly, Fate flipped JUGGERNAUT, not some kind of cop role. Fate was the strongarm Vigilante, genius. He didn't have an invesetigative role.



Now, as far as the alleged "scum slip." FUCKING GO BACK AND READ WHAT I POSTED

WITH FULL CONTEXT

.

I also don't like the way Quadz seemed to be licking my nuts at end of day. Truth be told, Fate is a little bit right to be upset with me, because I've said some short-sighted and hasty things. My play has not been very good from a strategic perspective, and while my inklings on inHim and JP were right, I never pushed either of them as hard as I probably should have.

I think that outside of people who know me well enough to meta me as town, there probably should be some reasonable doubt on my alignment. Meh, whatevs. It means I probably won't be nightkilled, because I don't think the scums want to crosskill at this time.

"It means I probably won't be nightkilled, because I don't think the scums want to crosskill at this time."-Glork

What the fuck is this Glork. You are admitting you are in a scum group?

Vezo: No, I'm saying that

if someone in a scumgroup thinks I'm scum, they won't be inclined to "crosskill" me.

That sentence was made in the context of "people seem to think that I'm decently scummy right now, so I'm probably a bad nightkill choice because scums wouldn't want to kill someone who they think is scum." The funky working was due to it being 3am.

I wasn't crystal clear articulate in the sentence you picked out and decide was a "slip," but if you look at the context, it should have been VERY clear that I was talking about "Glork is really suspect right now ---> Scums don't want to crosskill ---> Scums probably won't kill Glork." Learn some fucking READING COMPREHENSION before you decide what is or isn't a "slip."

[xRECKONERx]

Chrono's last post in the QT said that if he winds up calling for a guilty lynch on quadz, it means he has a guilty.

Fate, me, quadz, and Chrono were the ONLY ONES in the QT. Fate & Chrono were masons who are now dead. That leaves me and chrono. I sure as fuck didn't kill our masons, so it would make sense for scumquadz to be like OH FUCK MASONS ARE INVESTIGATING ME KILL KILL KILL.

[xRECKONERx]

Also, we need to be careful, we only have 10 players left.

Unvote

[Glork]

I thought it was 9. Whoops.

[Glork]

Anywho, based on Reck's last post, I'd be content to lynch Quadz.

[xRECKONERx]

Glork, assuming we have a 3:3:12 setup, where does that put us with potential nightkills?

I can do a best case scenario, but I can't figure out all options from here.

BEST CASE SCENARIO, we lynch Scum A today, scum kill each other tonight, we lynch Scum B tomorrow, and scum kill each other off again N5.

Also, are we all content to agree that it's 3:3:12 because Kise wouldn't be stupid enough to make it 4:4:10?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Why can't it be 2:2:14?

[Kdub]

3:3:12 seems most likely. 2:2:14 would require a ton of scum power to balance, and 4:4:10 would require a lot of town power, which doesn't seem likely with the number of VT flips so far. I guess 3:4:11 or 2:3:13 are plausible as well.

Also, if we assume vezo is telling the truth, he should be mass roleblocking tonight and as often as possible so that we essentially get two lynches every other effective day phase. Any docs should be protecting him on nights when he can't block.

[PranaDevil]

It's 3:3:12, no way would it be 4:4:10, as town would have no chance way too quickly.

And while I was suspicious of Quadz before, Reck's statement makes me all the more positive that Quadz is scum.

I am, however concerned that Vezo has been all up for a Quadz lynch, and now suddenly switches to Glork. I admit there are times I've been a little suspect of Glork, but I put that down to me being more wary of everyone unless I have solid reasons to believe they are town, than to Glork actually being scum.

[quadz08]

It's just weird. He posts that which could easilly be a scum slip and Fate dies. Fate who had a big case on Glork. It's pretty obvious that Fate would have investigate Glork tonight.

Two things.

First, Fate had decided to follow Reck's lead and believe that I'm protown. Look at these two posts:

Fate, Glork isn't scum.

Reck he's tellin everyone who to protect and shit.

That shit ain't right.

Unvote:
Vote: Inhim

It just ain't fuckin right.

BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

After Gears of War mafia, lurkers get the rope.

What does this say to you, if not "Glork is playing shitty but fine, I'll take your word that he's not scum."

Secondly, Fate flipped JUGGERNAUT, not some kind of cop role. Fate was the strongarm Vigilante, genius. He didn't have an invesetigative role.



Now, as far as the alleged "scum slip." FUCKING GO BACK AND READ WHAT I POSTED

WITH FULL CONTEXT

.

I also don't like the way Quadz seemed to be licking my nuts at end of day. Truth be told, Fate is a little bit right to be upset with me, because I've said some short-sighted and hasty things. My play has not been very good from a strategic perspective, and while my inklings on inHim and JP were right, I never pushed either of them as hard as I probably should have.

I think that outside of people who know me well enough to meta me as town, there probably should be some reasonable doubt on my alignment. Meh, whatevs. It means I probably won't be nightkilled, because I don't think the scums want to crosskill at this time.

"It means I probably won't be nightkilled, because I don't think the scums want to crosskill at this time."-Glork

What the fuck is this Glork. You are admitting you are in a scum group?

Vezo: No, I'm saying that

if someone in a scumgroup thinks I'm scum, they won't be inclined to "crosskill" me.

That sentence was made in the context of "people seem to think that I'm decently scummy right now, so I'm probably a bad nightkill choice because scums wouldn't want to kill someone who they think is scum." The funky working was due to it being 3am.

I wasn't crystal clear articulate in the sentence you picked out and decide was a "slip," but if you look at the context, it should have been VERY clear that I was talking about "Glork is really suspect right now ---> Scums don't want to crosskill ---> Scums probably won't kill Glork." Learn some fucking READING COMPREHENSION before you decide what is or isn't a "slip."

Couple of things here.

First:

As to this question: "What does this say to you, if not 'Glork is playing shitty but fine, I'll take your word that he's not scum.'" Nowhere in there does Fate imply he thinks you're any less scummy than you were. In fact, he continues to say that what you were doing was "not fuckin' right." What it says to me is "I think Glork is scummy, but nobody else agrees, and I've had experience with lurkerscum before, so inHim seems to be a good vote, too."

Of course, Fate would have put in more CAPS LAWKE and cuss words, but you get my drift.

Second:

I agree that vezok is taking stuff out of context. vezok's point makes no sense. I have an additional point to make on this, which I will discuss later.

Third: How was I "licking your nuts," exactly? By saying you've been playing pro-town? My bad. Perhaps the rest of my post (inspired by this last post of yours) will put your mind at ease.

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What does this say to you, if not "Glork is playing shitty but fine, I'll take your word that he's not scum."

Secondly, Fate flipped JUGGERNAUT, not some kind of cop role. Fate was the strongarm Vigilante, genius. He didn't have an invesetigative role.

1st part of this post (which I talked about already) seems like he's trying too hard to push blame off of him. This could also be a result of different interpretations of Fate's post, but... I thought Fate's meaning was pretty clear.

The 2nd part is just a strange response. Why didn't you just tell him that we didn't know Fate was a mason, and therefore could not have guessed he was the supposed cop? His flip doesn't matter either way in this circumstance. Not scummy in and of itself, but it feels like his reasoning is off, and he's stretching for answers.

And then, in the QT posts, it seems like Glork is overreacting to Fate's suspicion of him. Maybe I'm the only one, but up until now, I haven't seen anything to suggest Glorkscum. If I am the only one, then we can pretty much toss this point out the window.

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