A Clash of Kings - A Divided Kingdom

[RichardGHP]

SSBF, you know as well as anybody that my power you speak of does not extend to significantly helping the town. I'm a terrible clear, I'll admit. The power goes to my head and I coast until death or endgame.

FoS diddin

; Sounds like rolefishing.

[diddin]

He's L-2, what's so wrong about asking for a claim at L-2?

[RichardGHP]

If you really want a claim (which I'm assuming you do) you wouldn't be voting for him. A claim would be nice, but face facts. It's going to fit flavour-wise, is likely not going to be provable and will only delay this day even further. Scum rolefishing/trying overly hard to look town.

Not to sound immodest, but 1801 kinda sounds like AtA/maybe AtE too.

[Locke Lamora]

Unsight: SSBF is totally not mafia. He's most likely SK. If by some chance SSBF is scum, he's claiming those kills when they're not his and he will be dead anyway as a result.

SSBF, will you add diddin onto your list of potential targets if this doesn't come off? Let's go, Mina.

Unvote; Vote: diddin

I was willing to believe Sandor-town earlier but recent play has put that to a stop. Something's felt off with Unsight from D1 in the way she targets people but there are too many awful votes on that wagon for me to back it right now.

[Eddard Stark]

Votecount 3.13 The '

Only two sons and one of them's a twisted little monster. I'll match him son for son, and I'll still have nineteen and a half left when all his are dead!

' votecount.

Super Smash Bros. Fan (3) -

Unsight, Hasdgfas, Mikujin

Unsight (7)

MagnaOfIllusion, Macavitar, CSL, RichardGHP, Benmage, Vezokpiraka, Diddin

Rifka Viveka (1)

Thor665

CSL (1)

xvart

Mikujin (1)

Rifka Viveka

Diddin (1)

Locke Lamora

Not Voting (3)-

Axelrod, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Mina,

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline for today is Wednesday August 11th @ 6:30 EST. here

[CSL]

Technically a week until deadline...

[CSL]

EBWOP: Also, does anyone notice the difference in text size before and after a votecount?

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

SSBF, will you add diddin onto your list of potential targets if this doesn't come off? Let's go, Mina.

I'll think about it. migwelloni was scummy and Kinetic did little to recitify that. diddin sounds towny, but I need to re-read his ISO to see if he's a good lynch or not.

[Axelrod]

@Axelrod - I don't think a case on someone involves the search function and all that much work. Just succinctly state in 3 or 4 sentences why you find someone scummy and want them lynched today. It's pretty brief really and can be convincing if you make good points.

Not the way I do them. Plus, I'm out of thing enough that I couldn't give "three or four sentences" on anyone without reviewing their whole posting history first.

Unsight has more than enough votes to go ahead and claim. But strong feeling is that if we are not going to lynch a good SK candidate in SSBF under the pretense of "directing" his kill, then we should NOT be giving him an entire list of people to pick from. We should give him precisely 1 name. Otherwise, he's got the flexibility and leeway to try and kill the person he thinks (or maybe knows?) is Town out of the "list" we are giving him. And at this point the SK is going to be strongly motivated to kill Town if he can. CSL is probably still my vote there because of poor play and claim. Vezo is not a

terrible

choice, mainly because of general uselessness, though I can't shake the nagging feeling he's just terrible town.

[diddin]

I say we should set our own votals for who SSBF should kill and whomever has plurality at the end of the day gets killed by SSBF.

[hasdgfas]

But strong feeling is that if we are not going to lynch a good SK candidate in SSBF under the pretense of "directing" his kill, then we should NOT be giving him an entire list of people to pick from. We should give him precisely 1 name. Otherwise, he's got the flexibility and leeway to try and kill the person he thinks (or maybe knows?) is Town out of the "list" we are giving him. And at this point the SK is going to be strongly motivated to kill Town if he can.

This makes no sense. We'd be giving him a list of people we think are scum. Therefore, it doesn't matter if

he

thinks they're town, because the town as a whole thinks they're scum.

[Thor665]

Meh, personally I'm fine with the vezo or CSL list as currently stands.

I'm not really buying into the Unsight wagon at the moment. I find her scummy but the wagon feels a little too...I dunno. It feels like everyone just has blinders on and is voting Unsight because other people are voting Unsight - and a lot of the people voting Unsight are not exactly on my 'sooper-dooper townies' list.

@Axel - what about 1-2 sentences? If you can't really put into words your suspicions that's kinda weird.

I guess I have to re-read diddin. I remember thinking of him as more townie earlier though I agree with Locke that his current play has felt more skittish. I'd still not mind lynching Rifka, anyone remember her?

[Macavitar]

Regardless of the lazy votes on Unsight, it's still not a bad lynch. The people who concern me are CSL, vezo and diddin, but all of them are probably not scum. At most I'd say two. So, meh.

I would support a miku lynch today still if people really aren't going to get behind Unsight. Or we could lynch one of the above three and let SSBF vig one out of the remaining two.

[Unsight]

But strong feeling is that if we are not going to lynch a good SK candidate in SSBF under the pretense of "directing" his kill, then we should NOT be giving him an entire list of people to pick from. We should give him precisely 1 name. Otherwise, he's got the flexibility and leeway to try and kill the person he thinks (or maybe knows?) is Town out of the "list" we are giving him. And at this point the SK is going to be strongly motivated to kill Town if he can.

This makes no sense. We'd be giving him a list of people we think are scum. Therefore, it doesn't matter if

he

thinks they're town, because the town as a whole thinks they're scum.

Hand scum a list of people and they're going to shoot the people not on their team. At that point you're basically handing him a get-out-of-lynch card that says "Not only do you get to live another day or two, but you can continue shooting town too!"

[Unsight]

Unsight: SSBF is totally not mafia. He's most likely SK.

I don't buy that. I think the Day 1 oddity with MacCavityLock suggests that both are mafia.

[Locke Lamora]

So you think there's a third scumteam?

[diddin]

Unsight: SSBF is totally not mafia. He's most likely SK.

I don't buy that. I think the Day 1 oddity with MacCavityLock suggests that both are mafia.

By this logic, either there is a third scumteam, or SSBF is claiming ownership of flavor he doesn't have, in which he'll be a dead man tonight.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@ Benmage

re 1786 –

I appreciate you made the effort to purposely screw with my gender in an attempt to provoke a reaction. Nice touch. All I will say is the following -

First if your statement at 1258 is valid I don’t see why you are bothering to make a 1 to 1 comparision against me. If it’s not valid your rapid shift in playstyle Day 2 is worth examination.

Second your bruised ego will just have to get over being questioned. Your ‘status’ as more or less confirmed Town has little to do with your credibility in my eyes. When you make a statement that appears less than on the up and up I’m going to call you on it.

I guess I have to re-read diddin. I remember thinking of him as more townie earlier though I agree with Locke that his current play has felt more skittish. I'd still not mind lynching Rifka, anyone remember her?

I’d certainly support Rifka as an alternate lynch candidate to Unsight. I’ve made my thoughts well know.

Hand scum a list of people and they're going to shoot the people not on their team. At that point you're basically handing him a get-out-of-lynch card that says "Not only do you get to live another day or two, but you can continue shooting town too!"

He’s already shot 1 Lannister and 1 Greyjoy. If he’s a Serial Killer or Vig your concerns are groundless. Do you strongly believe there is a third Mafia faction running around?

[Benmage]

I appreciate you made the effort to purposely screw with my gender in an attempt to provoke a reaction. Nice touch.

I didn't know you were a guy noted.

[Eddard Stark]

Votecount 3.14 The '

You tell him this, m'lord. You tell him he's bound on marching the wrong way. It's north he should be taking his swords. North, not south. You hear me?

' votecount.

Super Smash Bros. Fan (3) -

Unsight, Hasdgfas, Mikujin

Unsight (7)

MagnaOfIllusion, Macavitar, CSL, RichardGHP, Benmage, Vezokpiraka, Diddin

Rifka Viveka (1)

Thor665

CSL (1)

xvart

Mikujin (1)

Rifka Viveka

Diddin (1)

Locke Lamora

Not Voting (3)-

Axelrod, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Mina,

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline for today is Wednesday August 11th @ 6:30 EST. here

Rifka Viveka has been prodded. Potential V/LAs have been noted for others.

[Rifka Viveka]

yup yup

Im surprised no one is on mikujin. Repeated rolefishing alone i thought was pretty scummy

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

To answer Locke Lamora's question:

As said before, I dislike Migwelloni, who did absolutely nothing for the town. Kinetic wasn't much better as he did not really take any stance in the game and his vote was a Raise.

However, diddin's play has considerably improved from those two. He is scum hunting, giving out his own opinions, and seems pro-town. That said, I will agree that diddin's vote on Unsight was horrible. He claims he doesn't really see anything scummy about him, yet because Unsight is the most likely lynch for today, he uses that as a justification for voting him. Very scummy vote.

Currently, I have a null read on him. Not exactly the best lynch in my opinion, but if I absolutely must to prevent a No Lynch and the bandwagon is on him, I'll switch over.

As for potential targets, if I'm alive, CSL and vezokpiraka is dead and I don't have another suspect, I will shoot diddin, but not before then.

[Thor665]

Super Smash Bros. Fan (3) -

Unsight, Hasdgfas, Mikujin

Please re-justify these votes.

[CSL]

Why isn't Unsight dead yet?

[hasdgfas]

Super Smash Bros. Fan (3) -

Unsight, Hasdgfas, Mikujin

Please re-justify these votes.

don't see a better spot than 99% confirmed scum