Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[zwetschenwasser]

woo

[animorpherv1]

woo

Yeah, this.

[dramonic]

noted.

[Lord Gurgi]

Aim: Yosarian2

Hi Dramonic. Sup guys.

In other news, you can check the original thread this game came from which suggested it had cult mechanics. I'm not sure that I like the volunteering of information though, as I'm not sure that giving certain roles game information is Flay's style. But then, I don't really know.

[vezokpiraka]

I have a role. I got to this conclusion by the abilities of my role.
I can claim if I need.

[Lord Gurgi]

My point is that the knowledge you revealed is basically generally available. You've soft claimed already (which I don't like) and are willing to claim straight away even to prove information which doesn't need proving. What I'm saying is that all you stand to do is win brownie points or endanger yourself. Neither is particularly good.

I'll link the thread I'm referencing if that's alright with you, Flay.

[Seraphim]

Holster

Aim: vezokpiraka

I was hoping I would be in one game with vezok where he wouldn't play in an antitown/scummy manner. My hopes were quickly dashed.

[Friend]

holster, aim: Seraphim

[Lord Gurgi]

I'd like some elaboration on that, Friend.

[vezokpiraka]

I didn't knew Mr Flay talked about this setup somewhere else.
After all I know games should be secret

[Friend]

Was his play antitown? Maybe. Scummy? Nah.

Was Seraphim's vote opportunistic? Hell yes.

[Faraday]

My point is that the knowledge you revealed is basically generally available. You've soft claimed already (which I don't like) and are willing to claim straight away even to prove information which doesn't need proving. What I'm saying is that all you stand to do is win brownie points or endanger yourself. Neither is particularly good.

I'll link the thread I'm referencing if that's alright with you, Flay.

I've seen this thread too. On the other hand I don't think Vezo has, and as such I think he's probably trying to be helpful with his information. I think he's likely town.

Sera - I don't see anything anti-town about Vezo's play thus far. What do you mean? I don't think outing his info was a bad thing, it's always good to be sure when cult mechanics are in play.

[vezokpiraka]

Sera wants me policy lynched because of normal 117.
The town lynched MPR me and the vig-him. You understand why he is like that.

[Seraphim]

I'd much rather have him replace out than have to deal with him.

One game with him was enough. Now he's in every single damn game I play in. I was going to call for his policy lynch at the beginning of the game, but decided to give him a chance instead, to see if he would actually try to play the game rather than out himself on Day 1. I was sorely mistaken.

Also, it's incredibly obvious that there's a cult. His info is useless and he's outing himself out for nothing.

tl;dr version: I'm fucking tired of his play. I don't see how his play is helpful in the slightest. Yes, he's probably town.

Holster

but that doesn't change my view on the situation.

No, it's not because of 117. That wasn't your fault in particular...that was a team effort.

[Lord Gurgi]

Friend: Between soft claiming and voting for that person on page two, I think voting is sorely overwhelmed. Though to be honest, the two of you (Friend and Seraphim) have swapped votes more than anyone else and most players have yet to even post.

Faraday: Soft claiming this early is rarely town. Having knowledge equates to power-role equates to shortly dead. I can't imagine I'm alone in preferring to keep a power-role under wraps than confirming knowledge we had no reason to doubt.

Vezokpiraka: I can't say your explanation is terribly in depth. If you two had this problem why did you join the same game?

Seraphim: I basically agree with your analysis of his performance thus far, excepting the other stuff. That said I'm not ready to dismiss him as town.

[Seraphim]

Actually, I dunno, he could be scum this game but I don't think he has any completed games as scum.

[Faraday]

Do you mean rarely comes from town, or town as in a good idea, Gurgi?

[Faraday]

Derp I'm an idiot and missing the obvious, I don't think vezo's play was good now but I don't find it scummy.

[vezokpiraka]

I have CEBM as completed game where I was scum.

[vezokpiraka]

I joined the game cause I liked the flavor.
I don't have grudges on anyone so I don't care about the player list.

[Seraphim]

The problem is that you play exactly the same town and scum, at least from what I can see.

this is the game he is talking about.

[TheLonging]

Also, it's incredibly obvious that there's a cult. His info is useless and he's outing himself out for nothing.

It wasn't obvious to me.

Also CEBM was bastardly anyways AND it's good to blend town and scum play together (provided it's GOOD play). I've never played with vezok minus CEBM but are you saying we're lynching him for blending his playstyle?

Aim: Seraphim

[Seraphim]

It wasn't obvious to me.

Read the game.

This will be a 20 player game, featuring

multiple recruiters

, heavy flavor (obviously), and semi-fixed deadlines of 18 days. More on the deadline mechanic later.

Bolded the important part just in case you missed it again.

AND it's good to blend town and scum play together (provided it's GOOD play).

It's not good play.

I've never played with vezok minus CEBM but are you saying we're lynching him for blending his playstyle?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. That's not even the crux of my argument. Nice strawman though.

[TheLonging]

What's a straw man?

OK then it's obvious to me. I fucked up there./

Also look: town + scum play

town: being pro-town

scum: being pro-scum

when you mix the town play when you're scum, it's essentially GOOD for you if you're scum anyways. I misunderstood you I think but my point is there.

[Seraphim]

Strawman is taking a part of my argument or distorting my argument and arguing against that part of the argument which is what you did up there.

vezok looks and plays scummy no matter what. He roleclaims without reason, dayvigs pro-town players. He doesn't strike me as intelligent. I'm fucking tired of playing with him. Absolutely exasperated. That's what I'm saying.