Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[TheLonging]

No Andrius I am content with the dramonic wagon.

btw furclow, your meta can change. I have 0 negative opinion about you as a player, and really as a whole, but this is about the game, and in this game, I am telling you that meta isn't reliable, hence why I'm not buying it. Yes you haven't played the same, but I can't rule you out as scum

[Furcolow]

ok, don't rule me out, but don't say "furcolow dies tonight". It would be a mishit for a vig, though i wouldnt mind if scum used a hit on me other than it would suck to be out of this game.

[dramonic]

TheLonging, I TOLD YOU NOT TO SOFTCLAIM. HERE:

@ My Ex-[REDACTED]-Buddy: Be more subtle next time. Unless you're just bluffing.

I'm not sure

what

you're crumbing, but if you want I'll consider hopping wagons for my Ex-

MASON

-Buddy.

Behind dram inquires as to if that is supposed to be a claim.

[Andrius]

TheLonging, I TOLD YOU NOT TO SOFTCLAIM. HERE:

@ My Ex-[REDACTED]-Buddy: Be more subtle next time. Unless you're just bluffing.

I'm not sure

what

you're crumbing, but if you want I'll consider hopping wagons for my Ex-

MASON

-Buddy.

Behind dram inquires as to if that is supposed to be a claim.

Nope. Not a claim.
TheLonging and I were Masons in Quirkytown, so we have a bond.

[animorpherv1]

I can attest to the above. I was playing the game, and shot down TL D1 on a gut hunch. Andrius survived 'til lendgame and won.

[TheLonging]

yup

anyways dramonic

CLAIM IN YOUR NEXT POST PLZ

[dramonic]

bodyguard

[ReaperCharlie]

k. Who did you bodyguard night 0?

[Andrius]

Sample Power Role

You're

Bastiano

, Don of the powerful Calagesi

'ndrina

. You rule the (admittedly small) underworld of the town of Cerenzia with an iron fist, and until recently no one even suspected of you of being involved with the mob. Now the uppity town has started to cause problems, and it's time for you and your boys to take action!

Win Condition:

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Powers:

• Vote
  _{(active, day, via thread)}
  :
  During the Day, you may vote for any one player at any time; I prefer if you use the flavor phrase
  Aim: Player
  , but the VOTE: tag works as well. UNVOTE: should become
  Holster
  , if you can remember to do so.
  
• Faction Kill
  _{(active, night, via PM)}
  :
  You are a
  Godfather
  ; as such, each Night you may order the murder of one Townsperson. Select a member of your criminal organization to perform the kill, and they will do their best to see that it is done. If you die, this ability will pass to one of your sons.
  
• Investigation Immunity
  _{(passive, night)}
  :
  You will come up as Innocent to any Cerenzia Police Department investigations, unless you conduct the Night Kill yourself that evening.
  
• Kill Immunity
  _{(passive, night, single-use)}
  :
  You also have a one-shot Night Kill Immunity through the efforts of your driver/bodyguard.
  
• Faction Allies
  _{(special, night)}
  :
  Individual members of your organization may also have additional skills to offer you; discuss them at Night in this QuickTopic.

'ndrina:

A local unit of the 'Ndrangheta criminal organization in Italy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'ndrina for more information.

Read the section on Kill Immunity. Lynch please.
Actually, dramonic, claim your name.
And the second part of your WinCon. What are you doing after this affair is all sorted out?

[dramonic]

Dante, and I guarded Yos.
Also your request sounds dangerously modkillable, Andrius.

[Andrius]

Sample Townie

You're

Bruno

, one of the goons of the Calagesi

'ndrina

. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), your Godfather was lynched by the town. Now you've got a chance to go open that pizzeria and be a normal citizen, if only you can get rid of the Capo's two ruthless sons. During the day, you can use the threat of your gun (vote) to discover the truth about other players. During the night you had best keep to your room and out of the way.

Win Condition:

You win when the Capo's sons and their allies are dead or neutralized, and you can go open that pizzeria like you always wanted.

Powers:

• No Night Actions:
  You may not leave your room or converse at Night unless told otherwise (in an ordinary game, you would be considered a
  Vanilla Townie
  ).
  
• Vote
  _{(active, day, via thread)}
  :
  You may vote for any one player at any time during the Day; I prefer if you use the flavor phrase
  Aim: Player
  , but the VOTE: tag works as well. UNVOTE: should become
  Holster
  , if you can remember to do so.

My thing is, what is a bodyguard going to do after this is over? My role matches what I'll do afterwards. Who knows? Perhaps you're the bodyguard to one of the sons.

[dramonic]

something about working for stars.

[Andrius]

something about working for stars.

Stars? WTF?

*a minute passes*

Oh. Like celebrities.
We should still lynch you. You're still scummy as hell for lurking and being like "lol too busy to play, going to go play my other 8 games and 3 modded games because I have no time for this one". Mmhmm. Riiiight.

[dramonic]

because lynching a claimed PR is obviously the way to go <<

Holster
Aim: Andrius

No wonder you'Re the counter-wagon.

[Porochaz]

Thats a really big bullshit reason.

Also in other news, I've decided I have become too snobby for this game. Im not replacing out, Im just saying.

[Friend]

I still find it scummy.

[Andrius]

because lynching a claimed PR is obviously the way to go <<

Same for me dumbass.

[dramonic]

because lynching a

claimed

PR is obviously the way to go <<

Same for me dumbass.

not quite

[Andrius]

Yeah well, I'm not giving myself up quite yet.
But. I will not crumb or claim further unless I'm pushed to lynch further than you.
I won't let scum_dram outlive me, no sirree.

[xvart]

FTR, I found another Furcolow scum game.

And what can you tell us about this? Or are you just trying to appear to be helpful? (update as reading, I see erg0 asked the same thing, which he answers here, quoted below).

No, but from what I can tell, the players there think he was the exact same as here. Biggest VI ever. Everyone except the mod, that is.

So what was the point of providing the meta scum game if you have no analysis other than he is playing the exact same way in both games? Wouldn't that indicate that he was scum in this game? And if so, why are you not voting him?

I am fairly certain the people who are even trying to question me: xvart, yosarian2
are in my suspects list when i named 5 people

1

xvart has changed his posting style this game, sinking to my level, which i feel is a sign of scum.

2

I've got my eye on him, so FoS, but I'm going to put my vote on someone I find scummier as soon as I get caught up in my other games.

also, xvart, my vote on you was more of a joke than anything to see if you would come down to the level

3

so was needling with comments about your signature, or about not liking you. I don't dislike you at all, I was just seeing how you'd react

4

1

So questioning people is scummy?

2

So sinking to your level is scummy? Your level being scummy? Is that right?

3

Was your vote a joke? Or was it a test to see if I would "come to [your] level"? It can't be both.

4

So it wasn't a joke? It was a reaction vote? Make up your mind please.

Maybe I am wrong about RC .. Anyway would like to see an Andrius flip ..

Why?

Furc was being scummy, but is still town. You can have a really scummy mason, but he's still town.
If you remember, RC gave a list of people in the alliance, and someone picked the scum out of it. I narrowed my gaze and said IF there were scum in the alliance, it would be Friend, as he's my weakest town read.
Thanks for the misrep. You made it seem like it was some big thing of 'oh Andy's scum and can't keep steady reads' but it was really you not providing the proper grounds.

You're right. My apologies for the picking scummy people out of a list; but your read on friend has been anything but steady since you were leaning town in this post and then you are not leaning either way in this post, the very next day.

Because zwet was actually posting content, while RC was being a jackass.

So it's simply subjective about the content of my post as long as it suits your impression of players?

Do I need to have a follow-up? I looked you up and you actually posted somewhat steadily. Your posts just get lost in the faced-paced moving game, so.
I don't accuse everyone of massive lurkage.

I'd like to see a game where you call someone scummy with a basis of only posting an average of once per RL day. That was my point.

I'm not throwing around scum-reads, and I still find you as scum. BUT dramonic is also scum and a much easier lynch to accomplish so I have focused me energies there. If we could double-lynch then I'd be on you or another scumread also, but dramonic needs to die.

Really? So saying you found scum and providing no reasoning whatsoever is

not

just throwing out a scumread?

Fact: We can't force dramonic to play the game.
Fact: Dramonic is not really playing the game.
Fact: Dramonic is not helping the town.
IIRC: Dramonic has no scum-reads. (WTF?)

None of which are indicators that he is scum.

Last time I had a scummy read on Dram, [redacted - Ongoing], so

Pistol Whip: Dram

(Really, Really Big HoS that's not quite a vote)

wtf? I don't even know what this means? If dram flips scum, Chrono should be heavily considered for the next lynch.

Caught up through page 31. The rest coming later.

xvart.

[Me=Weird]

I guess the bodyguard thing could be scum, but the impression I got from the sample is that the bodyguard part is just flavor. You know, an explanation for the NK immunity.
TL: Are you saying that scum with no intention to kill friend would be just as likely to forget about a mafia NK on friend as a townie with no idea about NK's would be likely to forget about a possible friend NK? Does this make more sense?
Sorry, I'm having a crazy week. I'm actually going to be

V/LA Saturday-Monday

[zwetschenwasser]

Bodyguard sounds like a standard powerrole in a game with this flavor.

Holster

[Erg0]

A mafia Bodyguard claiming Bodyguard would be a pretty poor move if their flavour reflects the sample role PM that Andrius quoted. Dramonic probably just made himself a pretty juicy recruitment target if he's town, though. Not something to lynch him for right now, but worth bearing in mind later on.

[ReaperCharlie]

dramonic is lying scum.

This is a Mafia-flavored game, not a Hollywood-flavored game. He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

directly from the sample PM:

Sample Power Role

You're

Bastiano

, Don of the powerful Calagesi

'ndrina

. You rule the (admittedly small) underworld of the town of Cerenzia with an iron fist, and until recently no one even suspected of you of being involved with the mob. Now the uppity town has started to cause problems, and it's time for you and your boys to take action!

Win Condition:

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Powers:

• Vote
  _{(active, day, via thread)}
  :
  During the Day, you may vote for any one player at any time; I prefer if you use the flavor phrase
  Aim: Player
  , but the VOTE: tag works as well. UNVOTE: should become
  Holster
  , if you can remember to do so.
  
• Faction Kill
  _{(active, night, via PM)}
  :
  You are a
  Godfather
  ; as such, each Night you may order the murder of one Townsperson. Select a member of your criminal organization to perform the kill, and they will do their best to see that it is done. If you die, this ability will pass to one of your sons.
  
• Investigation Immunity
  _{(passive, night)}
  :
  You will come up as Innocent to any Cerenzia Police Department investigations, unless you conduct the Night Kill yourself that evening.
  
• Kill Immunity
  _{(passive, night, single-use)}
  :
  You also have a one-shot Night Kill Immunity
  through the efforts of your driver/bodyguard.
  
  
• Faction Allies
  _{(special, night)}
  :
  Individual members of your organization may also have additional skills to offer you; discuss them at Night in this QuickTopic.

'ndrina:

A local unit of the 'Ndrangheta criminal organization in Italy. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'ndrina for more information.

yes. this is a Godfather PM.

Discuss.

[ReaperCharlie]

ninja'd..

A mafia Bodyguard claiming Bodyguard would be a pretty poor move.

Um... yeah it'd be a sucky move, but if it's the only move that might save them from being lynched,

they would probably do just that.

Plus, this is dramonic we're talking about here.

oh, and I forgot to

Aim: dramonic