Succession Mafia (OVER!)

[gandalf5166]

Actually, I'll list my reads of everyone so far.
Lord Gurgi- Scum. He just seems too..... justified. Like he's trying too hard. Forced would be the word.
ani- I had this confused with another game where ani was conf town >.> But I still think he's town in this game. He's been consistently helpful, even if he doesn't produce amazing content.
Chrono-Scum. I'm not even going to explain why, it's almost self-evident.
dram-Scum.
Erg0- Town.
Faraday-Uncertain, probably town.
Friend-Probably scum.
Furcolow-Scum.
Gandalf-Town.
inHim-Absolutely no idea.
Andrius- Scum, but not scum with dram.
ooba- No idea.
Poro- Probably scum.
RC- Town.
M=W-Town.
TL-Town.
vezok-town.
xvart-scum.
Yos2-null.
zwet-Town.
And I just realized that although I have a good amount of scum reads for a normal Large Theme, this game has recruiters, so there probably aren't nearly as many at this point........ There are only six at the very max. And that's assuming that both groups start out with a henchman and recruit N0, which is unlikely. Also, dram is now obv-scum. Why didn't he include a name in his claim? But of my scumreads, I'm most confident in LG, dram, Andy, and Chrono.

[Furcolow]

why do you view me as scum? especially considering a lot of the town list you have consider me town. Also, please rectify the fact that you have 7 scum or possibly scum listed when there will be i believe 4 scum. Care to pick 3 "scum" to knock off your list? thanks.

[gandalf5166]

why do you view me as scum? especially considering a lot of the town list you have consider me town. Also, please rectify the fact that you have 7 scum or possibly scum listed when there will be i believe 4 scum. Care to pick 3 "scum" to knock off your list? thanks.

First part: Town can still be wrong. And second part: Did you read my entire post? Lol.

[Yosarian2]

This is a Mafia-flavored game, not a Hollywood-flavored game. He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

IMO, this line doesn't.

Go read the sample PR role PM again you scholar.

RC looks like scum here. I get the feeling he spent a lot of time studying the sample role PM.

Dram: What does your ability say, exactly? What happens if you're protecting someone and they get recruited?

[dramonic]

that if someone tries to attack them they will fail and I'll probably die.
nothing about recruitment.

[ReaperCharlie]

This is a Mafia-flavored game, not a Hollywood-flavored game. He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

IMO, this line doesn't.

Go read the sample PR role PM again you scholar.

RC looks like scum here. I get the feeling he spent a lot of time studying the sample role PM.

Well, not especially. I took the time to READ it if that's what you mean, instead of just skimming it like I'm sure some of you did.

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But

your point is still dissonant

(i.e. doesn't make sense), because of the following:

1. If I was scum I would already KNOW the scum role PM. Yes? Yes.
2. If I was town, I would already KNOW the town role PM. k? so...

How does studying and making points on the SCUM role PM make me SCUM? Wouldn't I have to dissect the TOWN one to be considered scum? You've got it backwards.

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Very subtle, Yos. I like that. Anyone not thinking through your post would probably have missed that and chalked me up to scum "because Yos says so".

Not so much.

[ReaperCharlie]

Nice attempt to drag my name through the mud, though.


But I am a shining bastion of f*cking hope and sanity. Live with it.

[Furcolow]

i must have had my browser ending on zwet, as i admittedly didn't catch that. i agree once you have rectified yourself at the bottom of the post.

thanks, gandalf, that post is actually pretty spot on
you're not a VI like me after all

[zwetschenwasser]

I'm going to go on a whim and say Meta doesn't work against me, simply because I play too many games to actually stay stable.
Or something in that vein.
I just don't feel like I play differently, and until I get CORRECTLY meta lynched I'll believe it

I hate this post to no end.

Unvote; Vote: dramonic

[ReaperCharlie]

*feels the Ubertown Power Alliance Bonds clicking into place*

All systems, go.

[Yosarian2]

This is a Mafia-flavored game, not a Hollywood-flavored game. He'd be guarding the Don, not some blonde bimbo.

IMO, this line doesn't.

Go read the sample PR role PM again you scholar.

RC looks like scum here. I get the feeling he spent a lot of time studying the sample role PM.

Well, not especially. I took the time to READ it if that's what you mean, instead of just skimming it like I'm sure some of you did.

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But

your point is still dissonant

(i.e. doesn't make sense), because of the following:

1. If I was scum I would already KNOW the scum role PM. Yes? Yes.
2. If I was town, I would already KNOW the town role PM. k? so...

How does studying and making points on the SCUM role PM make me SCUM? Wouldn't I have to dissect the TOWN one to be considered scum? You've got it backwards.

It's not that. The whole idea of sample role PM is that it exists to give something for the scum to role claim if needed, and to prevent the scum from being caught out by details in town role PM's they otherwise might not know.

The vibe I got from that post of your is that you were using it for exactly that; I think you "analyzed" Dram's claim, not by looking at your own role PM, but by looking at the sample town role PM. Also, you were prepared and ready to use the town sample role PM as a defense.

None of that is damning or anything, but it is the kind of thing I would expect to see scum do more often then town.

[Chronopie]

@Yos: RC is scummy. He attacked Dram BECAUSE Dram mentioned "working for the stars" as part of his WC. (Andrius asked about the second part of the WC, so is either town, or studious scum, and feels townie).

The attack RC made indicates that he HAD NOT realised that TOWNIE PMs had an additional WC clause. The sample scum pm does not have an additional clause. The fact that town have an additional clause, scum do not, and RC failed to realise this, means (to me) that RC's pm lacks any additional clause. The only scum that would not have an additional clause at any point, thus have the least reason to notice said additional clause, are those who started out as scum. This suggests that RC is not only scum, but one of the

starting[/s] scum aka recruiter.

TL;DR RC DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WC CLAUSE = RC-SCUM RECRUITER. MOAR VOTES.

[Furcolow]

chronopie and yosarian are on the tops of my scum lists
their posts, which I haven't even read yet, just FEEL like scum hating on the concepts RC is bringing up in terms of a pro-town alliance.
I had a sentence typed out, but my instinct is telling me this: RC is NOT being like he was in HP mafia. it is VERY likely he is a town/townie, and I am going to agree to this alliance based upon the negative feel of the previous 2 posts with the positive feel of RC's post. I am not going to go read the last two posts previous to RC's.

Yosarian, learn grammar. If you do not, I am going to discontinue reading your posts.
I disagree with you, and your entire argument is WIFOM. It is a petty and senseless argument to make.

Chronopie buddies with yos. Attacks RC. I feel he is our lynch, as he is the recruiter, and he is talking to the recruitee in Yos. I may have had this backwards earlier, and may have it now, but their interaction in these posts is quite telling. I felt it before I even read them. No joke.

Senseless attack on RC continuing in paragraph 2. Yosarian is better at hiding the fact he's scum than chronopie. Chronopie actually might be buddying up to a townie. This attack on RC doesn't mean anything. I wasn't even sure I had one until I went back and looked. It is just silly flavor, and you can't hold someone down/lynch them over that. Behavior plays a much greater key, as it does with my sensing chronopie being nitpicky as scum. Does anyone know if this is how he plays?

[Chronopie]

chronopie and yosarian are on the tops of my scum lists

their posts, which I haven't even read yet, just FEEL like scum hating on the concepts RC is bringing up in terms of a pro-town alliance.

I had a sentence typed out, but my instinct is telling me this: RC is NOT being like he was in HP mafia. it is VERY likely he is a town/townie, and I am going to agree to this alliance based upon the negative feel of the previous 2 posts with the positive feel of RC's post. I am not going to go read the last two posts previous to RC's.

Yosarian, learn grammar. If you do not, I am going to discontinue reading your posts.
I disagree with you, and your entire argument is WIFOM. It is a petty and senseless argument to make.

Chronopie buddies with yos. Attacks RC. I feel he is our lynch, as he is the recruiter, and he is talking to the recruitee in Yos. I may have had this backwards earlier, and may have it now, but their interaction in these posts is quite telling. I felt it before I even read them. No joke.

Senseless attack on RC continuing in paragraph 2. Yosarian is better at hiding the fact he's scum than chronopie. Chronopie actually might be buddying up to a townie. This attack on RC doesn't mean anything. I wasn't even sure I had one until I went back and looked. It is just silly flavor, and you can't hold someone down/lynch them over that. Behaviour plays a much greater key, as it does with my sensing chronopie being nitpicky as scum. Does anyone know if this is how he plays?

Three Flaws in this post. 1) I'm town. And provable. And a (non-recruiter) PR. And Provable (repeated for emphasis).

2) RC is scummy. For the reasons I outlined in my post.

3) I like the idea of a pro-town alliance. They are quite powerful. It's just that RC-Scum should NOT be in charge of said Alliance.

oh, and 4) This is my normal playstyle (the nitpickiness)

[TheLonging]

e_e

[dramonic]

I'm going to go on a whim and say Meta doesn't work against me, simply because I play too many games to actually stay stable.
Or something in that vein.
I just don't feel like I play differently, and until I get CORRECTLY meta lynched I'll believe it

I hate this post to no end.

Unvote; Vote: dramonic

did you just NOT HAMMER me?

Zwet, the hell is wrong with you???

[Porochaz]

I'm not trying to incriminate Dramonic, I still think his wagon is dumb. It's a question that occurred to me, and I'm not going to keep it quiet.

BAD GURGI, QUESTIONING IS BAD. WE NEED RANDOM POINTLESS WAGONS IN THIS GAME.

[gandalf5166]

*feels the Ubertown Power Alliance Bonds clicking into place*

All systems, go.

Who is actually officially in your alliance? Just wondering, because I think that I was suggested at some point, but I'm not sure if I was accepted. That and, it's useful information to have all around.

[Furcolow]

i like your recent post, chronopie
just, if you're a vig, don't vig me!

lol

[Mr. Flay]

Thirteenth Situation Report of Day One

[8]

dramonic (Andrius, TheLonging, animorpherv1, gandalf5166, Furcolow, Friend, ReaperCharlie, zwetschenwasser)

[7]

Andrius (inHimshallibe, Me=Weird, xvart, ooba, Faraday, dramonic, vezokpiraka)

[1]

TheLonging (Erg0)

[1]

gandalf5166 (Yosarian2)

[1]

Furcolow (Porochaz)

[1]

Chronopie (Lord Gurgi)

[1]

ReaperCharlie (Chronopie)

Holstered: nobody!

With 20 alive, 11 drawn guns will be needed to execute someone.

[xvart]

chronopie and yosarian are on the tops of my scum lists

their posts, which I haven't even read yet, just FEEL like scum hating

on the concepts RC is bringing up in terms of a pro-town alliance.
I had a sentence typed out, but my instinct is telling me this: RC is NOT being like he was in HP mafia. it is VERY likely he is a town/townie, and I am going to agree to this alliance based upon the negative feel of the previous 2 posts with the positive feel of RC's post. I am not going to go read the last two posts previous to RC's.

Had to jump in on this before I went back to my last post and started responding. How can posts that you

haven't

read feel a certain way? How can you respond to posts in terms of their intent/content when you admit you haven't read them?

xvart.

[Furcolow]

Yeah well, I'm not giving myself up quite yet.
But. I will not crumb or claim further unless I'm pushed to lynch further than you.
I won't let scum_dram outlive me, no sirree.

unvote
vote: andrius

claim
you're further than dramonic

unvote

now you guys are tied
still leaning dramonic, but i want to hear from andrius
this kind of pressure is good for town


sorry andrius, i like you, but this has to be done

[gandalf5166]

LOL like Andy's gonna claim cause you randomly switched your vote.

[Erg0]

Holster, Aim: Furcolow

This is just getting ridiculous.

[Furcolow]

chronopie and yosarian are on the tops of my scum lists

their posts, which I haven't even read yet, just FEEL like scum hating

on the concepts RC is bringing up in terms of a pro-town alliance.
I had a sentence typed out, but my instinct is telling me this: RC is NOT being like he was in HP mafia. it is VERY likely he is a town/townie, and I am going to agree to this alliance based upon the negative feel of the previous 2 posts with the positive feel of RC's post. I am not going to go read the last two posts previous to RC's.

Had to jump in on this before I went back to my last post and started responding. How can posts that you

haven't

read feel a certain way? How can you respond to posts in terms of their intent/content when you admit you haven't read them?

xvart.

skimming to post, interpreting vibes of the message they are sending out influencing me to have certain thoughts or emotions drawn from them

when i read them, they confirmed that
it was neat, even for myself, to have done that