Super Smash Bros. Mafia! GAME OVER!!

[tanstalas]

I could see CSL being traitor mafia... being second in command to Fox - maybe a little resentment there?

[tanstalas]

It might just be my internal omgus senses tingling, but for some reason I don't buy Chrono's claim...

I agree.

I also have reasoning for it. You should be going over his ISO - I'd like to see if we are on the same page.

[The Master Hand]

Lynch count!

mothrax (0):
Pikachu (0):
CSL (0):
MehPlusRawr (0):
Stels (0):
Kirbyoshi (0):
Nachomamma8 (0):
Bunnylover (1): tanstalas
Furry (0):
Chronopie (0):
tanstalas (0):
SharkFinn (0):

Not Voting (11): mothrax, Pikachu, CSL, MehPlusRawr, Stels, Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8, Bunnylover, Furry, Chronopie, tanstalas, SharkFinn

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch!

Town votes!

mothrax (0):
CSL (0):
MehPlusRawr (0):
Stels (0):
Kirbyoshi (0):
Bunnylover (0):
Furry (6): Furry, Bunnylover, mothrax, tanstalas, Stels, Nachomamma8
Chronopie (0):
tanstalas (0):

Not Voting (6): Chronopie, CSL, Kirbyoshi, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Pikachu

Majority is not required for receiving the Smash Ball, however, the person with the most pluarity will receive it. Right now, at deadline if a lynch were to occur, that would be .

It is Day 5.
Nachomamma8, Pikachu, and SharkFinn may no longer compete for the Smash Ball.

Going to prod Pikachu and Kirbyoshi.

[mothrax]

Now here's what bugs me. "Traitor Mafia" + Blue Flip, would suggest two scum teams.

But we had one Smash Vig Kill + One kill. Supposing two Scum Teams + Smash Vig + possible SK, we should have 3-4 kills per night. We had two. So we either have doc(s), Jailkeeper(s), BPT(s), or NKImm SK/GF(s). (Also, The smash vig kill ignores all Protects/NKImm abilities, I asked)

why not bring up the posibility of a vig... you knew there was one in the game... also, this was on an odd night, and yet there were only two kills... shouldnt there have hypothetically have been 4 if you are odd night vig?

iso 14: defending mongoose... poorly.
iso 16: let the BP live even though he said his ability only happens with nk's so lets let him get nk'd
iso's 18 and 19: LV mongoose with no reason, then unvotes shortly after to "make nacho happy" (bussing?)
iso 20: more mongoose defense "he isn't villain scum" (still throws in possible traitor scum)
iso 22: mongoose and gollum can't be scumbuddies...
N.B. both statements above were false... he did flip villain, and he and gollum were scumbuddies
iso 25: oic what you did there.... hmmm.... still doesn't clear you.
damnit...
between there and iso 37 we have wagon hopping and poor defense against votes "just have your scumbuddies kill me" said to fate (who flipped town) and furry, who is town or really really really good scum (unlikely) so everyone who votes for you is scum?
but then we have 37... more softclaiming for metaknight...
40: again with the if you want me dead get your scum team to kill me... again to furry.
your posting of the vc show d1 wagoning (jumped on kirby, then on the diddin lynch when it started gaining steam.
again with the wagoning on d3... d2, your vote goes by realtively un noticed(didn't even have one down for most of the counts...) but then you wagon MPR d-3, jump to dana when it looks like it is gaining steam, but even though you have expressed susspicion of mongoose, you dont vote him though his wagon is growing...
way late on the mongoose vote d4, bussing?
sharkfin rolefisshing... (heheh he is trying to catch a shark)
next "one of the last scum names might be metaknight... if you are a lyncher to meta, why would you say this... bc you know meta is town and want to get this person killed? (at this point I hadn't claimed)

the rest is pushing me as scum, which isn't true. And setup/role speculation.

Lynch Vote: Chronopie

[tanstalas]

^ I was actually referring to early D1 when he advised against a nameclaim..

If what he said was true about wanting to find you to kill you I would have argued FOR a nameclaim, or at the very least stayed neutral on the issue.

[tanstalas]

EBWOP - Sorry - it was actually D2... assumed it was D1 because it was only his ISO-14

[mothrax]

actually I did notice that... meant to say something about it...

[Bunnylover]

Either Chrono or Morthax is lieing, one of those two have to be scum.
If Chrono is telling the truth, that makes Morthrax scum (Snake having to kill Metaknight)
But if Chrono faked claimed, then Morthrax claimed can be believable. I'm not exactly sure who to believe, since Morthrax you start a case on Chrono, but its a little suspicious because Chrono claimed role leads us to believe you are scum.
I would actually allow both of you two to live, that way during the night if Morthrax doesn't die, we know Chrono was lieing as he would target you in order to met his win condition (right Chrono?)
Unless, does anyone have any knowledge of a game where they had the same power as Chrono claimed, but their target was town along with him?

[mothrax]

bunny, it is mothrax, not morthrax...
Also, just pointing out (someone who knows the game better than I can confirm) but how does snake/metaknight lyncher/lynchee pair work flavor wise?

[SharkFinn]

Will point out 2 things in Chrono v. mothrax:

1. Chrono is role clear ESPECIALLY after Jigglypuff was detonated. That's Snake's signature.
2. Assuming 2 4-member mafia teams, would a neutral killer/lyncher be plausibe?

@ mothrax: According to SSBWiki Tier list for Brawl, Meta Knight is the top character, Snake is a not to distant second. Diddy is far 3rd, etc. etc. Totally see Snake blowing MetaKnight to be first place.

[Bunnylover]

Thought Diddy was higher up then Snake in tier.
But by bringing tier list in here, that make sense that Snake would want to target Meta knight.
Although I'm not sure how far the creator of this mafia game went, it makes sense.

[tanstalas]

Totally see Snake blowing MetaKnight

QFT - and putting into my sig

[SharkFinn]

O god. Taken out of context is....wow.

[Furry]

Lynch Vote CSL

moth stop voting lyncher out of self-preservation, we can win this tonight. If he is lying SK he gets proven liar D7

CSL is going to be last blue scum. Red scum is more of a mystery (not really, its bunny, MPR or kirby)

[Chronopie]

why not bring up the posibility of a vig... you knew there was one in the game... also, this was on an odd night, and yet there were only two kills... shouldnt there have hypothetically have been 4 if you are odd night vig?

Odd

Day

Vig.

SocioPath D1.

Vez/Reck hydra D3.

Palmertrou D5.

--

You may be town, but that won't stop you dying asap.

--

Unless, does anyone have any knowledge of a game where they had the same power as Chrono claimed, but their target was town along with him?

Closest I can think of is Cross Edge Bastard Mafia Parama's Heroic W/C was town W/C + all demons dead, and he had vigging powaz. Difference was that he didn't need to kill them himself, just make sure they didn't survive. (and he had more targets)

[SharkFinn]

Dont mind the CSL lynch.

Only defense is if you are going by role name alone consider the dead blue down:
Luigi: obv sib rivalry
Jigglypuff: again not even close to pikachu
R.O.B.: ???? Just defected

R.O.B. throws the theory out.

[Chronopie]

Dead Scum:

28. diddin, the Traitor Mafia Godfather (Luigi), Lynch Day 1

23. Gollum (Kise + Nero Cain hydra), Villain Mafia Watcher (Wolf), NK'd Night 2!

27. quadz08 (???), NK'd + Janitored Night 3!

Wario, Villain ??? (goon?)

17. mongoose, Villain Mafia Roleblocker (Bowser), Lynched D4

4. manho, Traitor Mafia Goon (R.O.B.), NK'd N4

8. palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Traitor Mafia Roleblocker (Jigglypuff), Vigged D5

GF + Goon + Roleblocker

vs.

Watcher + Goon? + Roleblocker

If it's a

20

vs.

4

vs.

4

setup, then

Info role

vs.

GF

Unexplained: Janitoring of

Quadz

kill. Presumably a blue NK/ability, as the smashes shouldn't janitor, and the scum roles aren't janitorial afaik.

Speculation:

Blue info role may infact be an info DENIAL role, thus the janitor. Alternatively, the claimed Name cop (unlikely) or claimed Tracker.

Extreme Speculation:

18

vs.

5

vs.

5

- Would allow for a

blue janitor, blue info role

,

red GF, and red ??? (as janitor counterbalance)

And I just noticed:

Gollum - Villain Mafia Watcher (Wolf)

danakillsu, Town Watcher (Pit)

no

Blue Watcher? (yet)

FTR: My vig kills:

12. SocioPath, a Vanilla Townie (Mr. Game & Watch), Day 1

OMGUS for Philly mafia, where he and Fate pushed my lynch without even letting me claim. (was running at the same time as this game, but it's finished now) We were all town.

15. xVEZOKNERx, a Vanilla Townie (Donkey Kong), Day 3!

Lurker, was accumulating a wagon, felt it was my town duty

8. palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Traitor Mafia Roleblocker (Jigglypuff), D5

A hunch.

[tanstalas]

Your vig kills were kind of obvious. I however thought it was Mothrax who was killing them, hence why I wanted his claim the most (noticed he was on shortly before the last one but didn't post in the thread)

[Stels]

Guys, to be honest, I don't believe CSL's claim. I mean, yeah, we have wolf in the game, but Falco? I read in the SBwiki, and he's ranked

4th?!?!? out of 37.

I read about him, his moveset is something to consider about. He can't be a pure vanilla townie. Either he's hiding his role from us or he's scum and lied.

[Stels]

Forgot to vote him

Lynch Vote: CSL

[Bunnylover]

Dont mind the CSL lynch.

Only defense is if you are going by role name alone consider the dead blue down:
Luigi: obv sib rivalry
Jigglypuff: again not even close to pikachu
R.O.B.: ???? Just defected

R.O.B. throws the theory out.

No, ROB fits. Remember in the game ROB was part of the villain side, he was the one dropping off those bombs, It wasn't until closer to the end of the game that ROB switch sides to help the good guys.
This would = him as a traitor mafia.
As for CSL claim of Falco VT, I would have expected Falco to have some kind of power, and its possible for him to be on the traitor mafia for the same reason that Luigi was on that side.

Lynch Vote: CSL

[Furry]

unlynch vote

Not risking a lynch until we have a kirby claim

[CSL]

No one lynch until Kirby claims.

And if I had a damned ability, wouldn't I have outed it in the appropriate matter by now?

[Stels]

My vote still stays.

[SharkFinn]

Awaiting last claim....

Then I vote CSL