[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[Andrius]

If this is run as an open set up then mass claim would kill it any way, so scum would just claim gentleman.
Odd night cop sounds good.
Didn't mean to do that. Get rid of bouncer and make him a vannilla mafia member
Yes that was the point and mass claim always kills scum if they claim scum
When he is all alone, or if one mafia one town and him remain he wins.
Nieghbors

True.
Better.
Mafia Goon then.
Ok.
Normal, but with a mafia there... is SK bulletproof? Is the Maf. Godfather I.I. or BP?
Meh.

I feel like this setup is near-balanced, but I'm not sure it could run as a open; the flavor would have to be dropped as a setup, added later.

[drmyshottyizsik]

Ya I know and GF is I.I. and SK is bullet proof.
I put a lot of thought into this game. I kinda think it may be run better as a mini theme though. Thoughts?

[Andrius]

Ya I know and GF is I.I. and SK is bullet proof.
I put a lot of thought into this game. I kinda think it may be run better as a mini theme though. Thoughts?

If it can fit into a mini theme (aka, 12 players) it could work.

[drmyshottyizsik]

YaY!! I don't fail for once!

[Andrius]

You don't fail at all, actually.
So, while we're here, go ahead and cut the setup down to 12 players.

[drmyshottyizsik]

town

4 Gentlemen(VT)
1 Groom to be(Haas a QT with Best man)
1 Best man to be(Qt with Groom)
1 Odd Night cop
1 DJ(can watch a person)
1 Creeper(Track someone at night, but if the person they track gets NK'd they too die)

3rd party

Bar Tender(Each night he may either poison someone's drink(kill them), watch them, or track them. He can not use the same choice twice in a row)

Mafia

1 Owner(God Father)
1 Hooker(Each night she may kiss some one, and if that person is kissed then their ability will fail, and will show up as guilty on cop reports)

Maybe this?

[Andrius]

town

4 Gentlemen(VT)
1 Groom to be(Haas a QT with Best man)
1 Best man to be(Qt with Groom)
1 Odd Night cop
1 DJ(can watch a person)
1 Creeper(Track someone at night, but if the person they track gets NK'd they too die)

3rd party

Bar Tender(Each night he may either poison someone's drink(kill them), watch them, or track them. He can not use the same choice twice in a row)

Mafia

1 Owner(God Father)
1 Hooker(Each night she may kiss some one, and if that person is kissed then their ability will fail, and will show up as guilty on cop reports)

Maybe this?

I'd *actually* consider making bestman/groom masons, since the watcher is usually a scum role.
Though the SK has a bit too much power IMO. Killer/Tracker/Watcher/BP.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I feel that the SK has less power because he can't kill twice in a row.
And Masons would work,

[gandalf5166]

DMSIS made a setup that MAKES SENSE?!?!?!?!?!??
/HEAD ASPLODE

[drmyshottyizsik]

And i think it would be really fun too

[gandalf5166]

Unfortunately, it might not work as a mini theme, since you posted the setup here >.>

[drmyshottyizsik]

I would name it something else, so no one would know

[Katsuki]

I agree, shotty has come up with something that's pretty good.

[mykonian]

and you have too many powerroles to justify a town watcher. If the odd night cop claims a guilty, the watcher will wait till scum kills the cop, and you have your second guilty. That means, if either the tracker or the cop get a guilty on the mafia, the mafia has probably lost. The 3rd party is fine. The town is just a too strong with all the investigative roles.

[drmyshottyizsik]

town

4 Gentlemen(VT)
1 Groom to be(Haas a QT with Best man)
1 Best man to be(Qt with Groom)
1 Odd Night cop
1 DJ(mix two peoples power roles (get it :p))
1 Creeper(Track someone at night, but if the person they track gets NK'd they too die)

3rd party

Bar Tender(Each night he may either poison someone's drink(kill them), watch them, or track them. He can not use the same choice twice in a row)

Mafia

1 Owner(God Father)
1 Hooker(Each night she may kiss some one, and if that person is kissed then their ability will fail, and will show up as guilty on cop reports)

Maybe this?

[gandalf5166]

Am I the only one who's thinking that the cop is near useless here?

[bv310]

Nope, I was just thinking that too. He only has one legitimate target, and if the Hooker dies, he's completely useless.

[gandalf5166]

Not to mention that he can't really trust his results, with the framer in there.

[mykonian]

Am I the only one who's thinking that the cop is near useless here?

which means it might actually be a good setup.

Finding out who the scum are is fun. Cops are not fun. They might be a necessity sometimes, but they aren't fun.

[gandalf5166]

Yes, but he's providing more misinformation than good information. So why is he even there? He could at least be every night.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I threw the cop in the mix to make it fun Gand. I know what you are saying and i thought of that, and I though of replacing him with a miller(jk) or a retard who had a post restriction and cuold only use one sylable words

[Andrius]

Drop the Cop, make those 2 guys Masons.
Everyone loves masons.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, I've thought and I think I like the cop, assuming this is run as an open. His results are conditional, but I like that. He can only confirm town, not confirm scum. I do however think he should be every night. But if it's closed, the cop is retarded.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok guys will be masons
and the cop will be an every day cop or would it be better if the cop was a drunk instead?

[Katsuki]

I like the cop.

Aka, punish those who play "follow the cop/PR". I learnt that the hard way in a game with zwet. = =