[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok well then i think i just made a working set up

[Enigma]

*removed*

[Antihero]

@Enigma: Do each of the mafia traitors get an NK?

To Bus or Not to Bus

3 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Survivor
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Jailkeeper
1 Town Vigilante
5 Vanilla Townies

The goons are only told who their 3 partners are (i.e. they don't know who the survivor is).
If the Mafia outnumbers the town and the Mafia survivor is still alive, the goons lose and the survivor wins alone.
Mafia can't NK a mafia member.

[Herodotus]

@Enigma: that would be over on night 2 often. And if the game continued past that, the cops may make a town win easy.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@anti- one mis lynch and the game could be over if the vig mis kills

[Antihero]

@anti- one mis lynch and the game could be over if the vig mis kills

Assuming the mafia kill goes through+misvig+mislynch, that's 9 alive w/ 4 mafia. LYLO, but not loss (in this case, I doubt the town loses since the mafia are likely to bus someone).

[drmyshottyizsik]

oh sorry I mis read, but sstill if they do bus, then mafia wins if vig mis shoots

[Antihero]

Town better hope they get a good (or conservative) vig, then.

[drmyshottyizsik]

it's a jank set up man

[Antihero]

it's a jank set up

I'm not familiar with this phrase.

[bv310]

it's a jank set up man

I wouldn't call it Jank, just not well thought out. Cutting the scum team down to 3 players and capping the vig's shots are likely to slow the game down a bit and keep it to D3 or later.

[drmyshottyizsik]

^^good idea

[Antihero]

Cutting the scum team down to 3 players

Do you think this gives the mafia enough misbusses?

[drmyshottyizsik]

well i would keep it at four, but cap the vig, and add a vt and a town pgo

[Antihero]

well i would keep it at four, but cap the vig, and add a vt and a town pgo

I'm hesitant to cap the vig because I think any vig will at least half a brain will do it himself (especially around LYLO).

I think you're right in that I should add more town though.

How about this

To Bus or Not to Bus

3 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Survivor
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Jailkeeper
1 Town Vigilante
1 Town Paranoid Gun Owner
8 Townies

If the mafia outnumbers town and the survivor is still alive, the goons lose and the survivor wins alone.
Mafia is not allowed to NK one of their own members. Mafia also must NK every night.
Vigilante is not compulsive.
Town must lynch every day.

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok take away one towny and balance that(because of the pgo) with a town watcher or role blocker

[Antihero]

Actually, I don't care for the role of PGO. What should I put in instead...

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok make two one shot vigs, but one can only use its shot on odd nights and one on even. keep 7 townies, cap the pgo

[Antihero]

Sorry, shotty, I still hate the role of PGO.

How about just making that a bulletproof townie?

[drmyshottyizsik]

when i said cap i ment kill, make it go bye bye,

[Antihero]

Oh, ok. I don't care for the role of one-shot vig, either. I prefer regular ones. But I like your odd/even night idea.

How about this?

To Bus or Not to Bus

3 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Survivor
1 Town Tracker
1 Town Jailkeeper
1 Town Odd Night Vigilante
1 Town Even Night Vigilante
8 Townies

• If the mafia outnumbers town and the survivor is still alive, the goons lose (i.e. - the survivor wins alone)
  
• The mafia can't NK one of its own members.
  
• Mafia have to kill every night.

I don't know, is this a stupid idea? I thought it would be interesting to have kind of a game-within-a-game (the mafia has to determine who to bus), but please tell me if no one would actually want to play this game.

[drmyshottyizsik]

i like it like that. I would play

[Slaxx]

I like that quite a bit Antihero.

[Powerrox93]

Oh, ok. I don't care for the role of one-shot vig, either. I prefer regular ones. But I like your odd/even night idea.

How about this?

To Bus or Not to Bus

3 Mafia Goons
1 Mafia Survivor
1 Town .
Tracker
1 Town Jailkeeper
1 Town Odd Night Vigilante
1 Town Even Night Vigilante
8 Townies

• If the mafia outnumbers town and the survivor is still alive, the goons lose (i.e. - the survivor wins alone)
  
• The mafia can't NK one of its own members.
  
• Mafia have to kill every night.

I don't know, is this a stupid idea? I thought it would be interesting to have kind of a game-within-a-game (the mafia has to determine who to bus), but please tell me if no one would actually want to play this game.

What is a Mafia Survivor? Is it a survivor that appears to be a goon for the goons?
But I think the set-up looks great

[Antihero]

What is a Mafia Survivor? Is it a survivor that appears to be a goon for the goons?

Exactly (but since this is an open set-up, the goons know one of them must be the survivor)