Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[chesskid3]

Why are we still contemplating chess scum? If Nik flips scum feel free to lynch the shit out of me. Until then I'm pretty cleared, and I'm not planning on using my ability tonight.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

A few things...

Nikanor has claimed N0 cop?

>.< a clear on chesskid. Interesting.

OH LORD A CUCKO.

I think Substrike might lose his voting power... >.<

Um... I'm gonna need to read again now. 30 pages, Jesus christ...

[Le Cupcake]

Unvote, Vote: Blooderection

Scum. Not to mention, this will probably give us quite a bit of information to analyze in later days.

[Chronopie]

Wait, What? Page 31 and we've stopped with the CK3 lynch?

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OIC. nvm, continue.

I'll admit, I might have been a little tunnel-visioned on the perceived anti-town role of vanilliser, especially in the hands of someone who's posts consisted of generally terms of "screw you guys."

But I can get behind a BE wagon.
UNVOTE: CK3,VOTE: Blooderection

Chicken on SS's head. I lol'd.

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm still iffy on the pro-townieness of a vanillizer...but I have no reason to disbelieve the daycop claim or the plan to confirm chesskid

unvote chesskid

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can someone explain to me what the BE wagon is based on?

I haven't read well enough, and I'm lacking info...

[zwetschenwasser]

surprised I am that noone seems to suspect the mod in this game, just because of background flavor.

Unvote; Vote: xReck

[Lady Lambdadelta]

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You can vote for the mod?

[Le Cupcake]

Oh?

So you really are scum this game zwet?

[Kdub]

So I had a paragraph typed out earlier about how I agreed with chesskid being forced to use his ability tonight on targets of our choosing, but then Nikanor claimed town info on him. I am willing to believe Nikanor's info for now and keep chesskid alive, but obviously as the game goes on, we will have to be reevaluating them.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Chrono
Not really liking his last post. He jumps off the collapsing wagon onto the one that is just getting some steam with no explanation.

Got some bad vibes from LL and Gandalf as I was reading. Keeping an eye on them.

[DTMaster]

1. Chess no you are not cleared. You are not D1 lynch material, but you will suicide before lylo if you don't die now. The only reason you shouldn't be a vig target/lynch wagon is because of your role. It makes you conformable in other ways. Your game play alone is grounds on vigging.

Even if Nikanor is claiming a cop innocent result on you

it does not exclude investigation immune roles

. Also the mod claimed

that it's possible that he could lie in our PMs in terms of Mason confirmed alignment

Dram did that in CEBM, and this element is possible. where the light baku was actually a 3rd party lyncher. The baku was confirmed via mason link to 2 players as town aligned. The truth was stretched since the light baku was lyncher to the dark baku an SK.

2. Exlion, write out a hypo redirector in both scum/town Chess in both scum/town redirection scheme. The absurdity that Chess' ability goes awry either means: Chess is telling the truth or scum redirects to cause other people to lose their powers, killing chess. Considering the suicide element of Chess' claim is key, we can verify it.

3. Substrike, do you know what the Cucco is doing? It reads first as a hot potatao (which should be redirected to the mod if Zwets vote goes through). Otherwise the hint here:

And that last person is kinda right. After staring intensely at each of you, the Cucco spread its wings and jumps on Substrike22.
He tries to defend himself, but it's no use and the Cucco decides to firmly attach itself to his head.
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With a Cucco on the head, let's just say he's not very credible..

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Suggests a vote mechanic change. See in bold. My 2 cents.

3. Nik claimed a sane investigative role information about chess.

[mothrax]

I agree that chess is best kept around. With nik confirming him and the fact that he can hit scum roles later, I don't see an issue with letting him live.
I like how I am on several peoples scum list with no reasons behind it. Also, fate, I'm hurt. .
Will unvote and have a bigger catchup when Im not on my phone/in class.

[BrookylnConstruction]

b. If Chess is scum, we will know from the fact that he's alive and if he does vanilize people.

Or, he claims to be roleblocked. Or he isn't suicidal, he added that part and we just lost two town roles.

c. If Chess is scum, and is blocked, then this has to be done under precise situations (ie. two scum teams one of them more willing to frame Chess, etc, etc) that it's impratical to be paranoid about that till tomorrow.

Or he didn't use the role, claims to be roleblocked and skates for a few days.

Also I'm Town and I'm a PR. I'd rather lose my PR then have a wasted lynch.

This is stupid. He's going to die, but instead of lynch him and potentially save 2 roles. You're going to throw away your role. Why would you even claim that? That was incredibly dumb.

Scratch that Blood is scum Look at that change between OMG LYNCH CHESS BECAUSE LETTING HIM VANILIZE PEOPLE IS TOO UNRELIABLE to Chess's PR IS SUPER ANTI TOWN NO SCUM WOULD STOP THAT. If chess is town and the only reason scum would stop it is they don't want to vanalize into goons.

I haven't changed. I said, and am still saying, chess should be lynched because his role is more likely a detriment to the town. Scum would see that and not kill him, let him kill himself, and screw the town. We need to lynch him, because hes a loose cannon that might just get angry and vanillarize a town PR further screwing us.

Unvote, Vote Blooderection for the massive contraction in the above quote. It sounds like scum frustrated at the wagon stalling and trying to get a potential danger out. He's masking it via spreading paranoia through the town in losing their PRs. Rather then that, we can direct Chess and use it in a town directed manner for pro-town motives. Chess is leashed. That's tons better then a blind lynch him stance.

Stalling wagon? He's been at L-2 with like 4 people who said they'd kill him. Paranoia? You volunteered yourself as a town PR to be lost! If we find scum, we lynch them; if we don't know, vanillaizing is inherently a bigger threat to the town than the scum. It's a bastard role that needs to be gotten rid of so that we dont leave these things to chance.

You are here to keep your town reads, and lynch your scum reads. The fact that you are degrading this argument to a skill based argument goes against town play because you're lynching town reads. If you lynch people based on inepitude in skill, you wouldn't ever lynch scum properly because there is a thing called skilled scum players .

It's the role that I'm concerned about. The inept player behind it just makes it scarier.

Why are we still contemplating chess scum? If Nik flips scum feel free to lynch the shit out of me. Until then I'm pretty cleared, and I'm not planning on using my ability tonight.

Thats not how that works. We use your flip to see if he's lying. Or are you suggesting we lynch a info role over one that suicides?

Unvote, Vote: Blooderection

Scum. Not to mention, this will probably give us quite a bit of information to analyze in later days.

Scum on what grounds? Calling you scum?

I'll admit, I might have been a little tunnel-visioned on the perceived anti-town role of vanilliser, especially in the hands of someone who's posts consisted of generally terms of "screw you guys."

But I can get behind a BE wagon.

Again, on what grounds are you voting?

[Ythan]

This has really been a 0 information day so far.

It clearly has not, and this isn't going to convince anyone to ignore the day.

Lol. The fact that only a few people on this wagon actually expect me to flip scum says oodles about the idiocy of the town in this game.

Blah blah you don't know how Mafia works same old same old. It might help to realize that you're so awful that you need to be out of the game regardless.

Ok well this will probably be my last content post

lol!

I'd explain, but

lol!

Edit 1: Oh you die when you vanillize people... OMG WUT WE CAN CONFIRM YOU AND NOT WASTE A VIG NOR A LYNCH?! AND YOU'RE A NOISE GENERATOR!! OMG OMG THIS IS AWESME. CHESS LYNCH DOES NOT GO THROUGH.

No. We've been over pretty thoroughly why he is not living to night. You seem to have missed it.

[Ythan]

Part of me is still tempted to vanillize Ythan just because I'm a moron.

Pretty much.

He deserves it, though.

Cry about it. More, I mean.

I'm going to vanillize my top two scumreads.

You've yet to express any good scum reads. You've spent all your time bitching and none doing anything else but occasionally parroting the most obvious of reads. So~

[Ythan]

I'm not sold on an Ythan or mothrax lynch though.

Lol what. As if there has ever been a chance of an Ythan lynch?

STILL 10 PAGES OF SPAM TO READ HUH

Then read the ten pages of not spam instead. Or a dictionary.

[Ythan]

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You can vote for the mod?

It's a Reck game.

Oh?

So you really are scum this game zwet?

Are you seriously going to keep spending your time posting shit like this.

[Reckamonic]

Also the mod claimed

that it's possible that he could lie in our PMs in terms of Mason confirmed alignment

Erm... Deny?
In this game, a mason is alignment confirmed. This isn't a bastard mod like CEBM

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UNVOTE:

[jenniwren]

Catching up...will post in a bit.

[Chronopie]

Not bastard, just swingy. Rite Plushie?

I can certainly see how it could be swingy, what with the suicidal vaniliser, and certain other role restrictions/conditions. e.g Mafuyu's "Fluffy" vote, etc.

Are the Cucos commanded by a player? or are they mod actions?

[Ythan]

Not only do I doubt that he'll answer that but where did you intend to go with your answer?

[Ythan]

How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

[Reckamonic]

Are the Cucos commanded by a player? or are they mod actions?

And you expect me to answer that?
Seriously?

@the other comment: Yes, swingy but not really bastardly. Maybe an ounce, but nothing like scum masons

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

Why do we have to lynch him tommorow?

Have a vig shoot him tonight if you really want...

or let him exist, and we can continue to use him...

He's been cleared by Nika. (Not true clear, but ok for now).