Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Dekes]

lead me to the conclusion that everyone has an element.

I don't have an elementar modifier.

Vote: Le Cupcake

(lazy diddin scum's been replaced anyway)

I call fakeclaim. All these snippets she's given screams of lazy scum giving out just enough info (that's already been presented in-thread by others) to say that people should get off of her nuts.
Thought process: "Nayru's blue -> the aquatic race has been mentioned in this thread, so I'm clear there -> Naryu aquatic goddess, neat fake claim".

LL, you are wrong. Nayru's NOT aquatic in any kind whatsoever and has never been mentioned as such. Because her stone is held by the zora race doesn't make her aquatic and assuming so is reaching.

Calling for lynch on someone who was able to protect against kill.

Are you implying because you are bulletproof you are more likely town?

Another explanation would be scrambled flavor because Nayru's love fits the mod flavor so far (though I believe mods can be sneaky enough to give a scum role Nayru's love with Nayru as safeclaim to lead people off-track). After all I was a goon as a pregnant woman in Reck's last game.

I'm also wary of zwet's claim. I personally wouldn't wanna have Barinade on my side. And he first called miller cpr doc and now is reflexive cpr doc, which makes him un-targetable by any non-verdant role.

Le cupcake's higher priority though, so all aboard.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lead me to the conclusion that everyone has an element.

I don't have an elementar modifier.

Vote: Le Cupcake

(lazy diddin scum's been replaced anyway)

I call fakeclaim. All these snippets she's given screams of lazy scum giving out just enough info (that's already been presented in-thread by others) to say that people should get off of her nuts.
Thought process: "Nayru's blue -> the aquatic race has been mentioned in this thread, so I'm clear there -> Naryu aquatic goddess, neat fake claim".

LL, you are wrong. Nayru's NOT aquatic in any kind whatsoever and has never been mentioned as such. Because her stone is held by the zora race doesn't make her aquatic and assuming so is reaching.

Calling for lynch on someone who was able to protect against kill.

Are you implying because you are bulletproof you are more likely town?

Another explanation would be scrambled flavor because Nayru's love fits the mod flavor so far (though I believe mods can be sneaky enough to give a scum role Nayru's love with Nayru as safeclaim to lead people off-track). After all I was a goon as a pregnant woman in Reck's last game.

I'm also wary of zwet's claim. I personally wouldn't wanna have Barinade on my side. And he first called miller cpr doc and now is reflexive cpr doc, which makes him un-targetable by any non-verdant role.

Le cupcake's higher priority though, so all aboard.

I know for a fact that I am not wrong.

Verdant, BTW, is wooded, or forested.

If you don't have an elemental modifier, it's because you are either Hylian, Geurdo or some other human race.

Verdant refers to Kokiri.
Aquatic refers to Zora.
I'm waiting on something to do with fire, but that would refer to Gorons.

Respectively, the three goddesses who are the protectors of those 3 races, would have the same elemental alignment.

I'm not a great scumhunter, nor am I an experienced mafia player, but there is one thing I do know. That being this Zelda flavor. I guarantee that these elemental alignments will extend to the goddesses. Why do you thinik in the game, it shows Faeore flying over Kokiri forest? Din flying over Death Mountain? Nayru flying past the entrance to Zora's Domain?

It's because they are the guardians of those three sacred races to the land of Hyrule.

[Dekes]

Is this conclusion based on flavor speculation only? If so, I'm not buying it.

And Cupcake's Iso isn't convincing me of her townness either and hasn't been for quite a while.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Conversely, your iso shows... absolutely nothing.

It shows you doing what we all did, with regards to Chesskid.

Then you suddenly vote diddin, with no reasoning behind it, as seen here:

Vote: diddin

@Le Cupcake
I didn't see any actual stances of who you think is scum. You hint at BE and Fate and you are referring to Fate's list (which was in fact an anti-town vig list, not necessarily a scum list). Please point me to your stances or simply repeat them now. Doesn't take that much effort.

First off, explain your vote on Diddin?

Secondly, 2 people have already claimed Verdant and Aquatic roles. King /ZORA/ being Aquatic. I don't remember the Verdant thing. But it proves that these elemental roles exist. Logically, these goddesses would have this alignment. This is a bit more proof than just basing it off flavor. This is the proof they exits, the flavor is the reasoning why it would apply to Cupcake's goddess role. Can you give me a good reason why it wouldn't make sense?

[Dekes]

I would argue I did more than accusing chesskid. I'm not the most active person, true, but I never am.
Interesting though, that instead of looking into Cupcake's Iso you're looking into mine trying to discredit me by implying my opinion on someone's Iso is invalid because my own Iso shows lack of activity.

I voted diddin, because I think he's scum. Since he's been replaced and ZONEACE hasn't talked so far I won't elaborate this one further for now.

I can give you a good reason. Flavor-wise Nayru isn't aquatic in the game, why should she be here, when it's evident that not every role is aligned to Aquatic, Verdant and (mountain-like)? I'm not aligned to any of those, why do the godesses have to be if they aren't in the game either? I don't see your logic behind it.

[Exilon]

I didn't exactly played Ocarina of Time, but her being an aquatic goddess doesn't exactly jive with me. Also,

There is so little evidence against Cupcake, and you are scrounging to get more. This isn't something a townie should be doing.

this makes no sense. He called his claim bullshit and that was his basis for voting him, I don't see Ythan scrounging to get 'evidence' on him to add to the little evidence there is. And as far as I'm concerned, a townie collects evidence (same thing as scrounging if the definition doesn't fail me. I checked the dictionary). Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but FABRICATING evidence is scummy, not obtaining it through pressure like you seem to be suggesting.

Also, pushing for a lynch based on false information? Please explain that or back it up with quotes, otherwise I cannot accept it.
I for one don't exactly believe his claim although there are some consistent points.

Also, I don't remmber anyone claiming any kind of verdant.

Unrelated, hum, I just noticed something interesting that I should've noticed sooner.

HoS Exilon for overall active lurking. He knows better. The post in which he has to make up an excuse to vote is especially bad.

Why do you say I know better? It wasn't an excuse to vote- I figured I should place a vote and thought that he was as good as any other of my bad-vibes at that point. He hasn't done much to improve that, but if I see a better place to leave my vote, I will. I think that is reaching a bit and I disagree with Fate calling you town by taking stances. Anyone can take stances. Sure, lurking are probably scum, but that reasoning screams a bit like you don't want to have the trouble of finding a good justification-enough to vote someone who is being thorougly active.

[Exilon]

Interesting though, that instead of looking into Cupcake's Iso you're looking into mine trying to discredit me by implying my opinion on someone's Iso is invalid because my own Iso shows lack of activity.

This. Lady Lambdadelta chooses to attack him while completely dropping the defense on Cupcake. Doesn't make sense.

I could see what LL is talking about when the elemnts are mentioned and the three goddesses being their protectors, but then, according to that, shouldn't everyone have an element?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I would argue I did more than accusing chesskid. I'm not the most active person, true, but I never am.
Interesting though, that instead of looking into Cupcake's Iso you're looking into mine trying to discredit me by implying my opinion on someone's Iso is invalid because my own Iso shows lack of activity.

I voted diddin, because I think he's scum. Since he's been replaced and ZONEACE hasn't talked so far I won't elaborate this one further for now.

I can give you a good reason. Flavor-wise Nayru isn't aquatic in the game, why should she be here, when it's evident that not every role is aligned to Aquatic, Verdant and (mountain-like)? I'm not aligned to any of those, why do the godesses have to be if they aren't in the game either? I don't see your logic behind it.

But the fact is, they ARE aligned to those three things in the game. As previously stated, they are the guardian goddesses of those 3 races.

[Dekes]

Also, I don't remmber anyone claiming any kind of verdant.

[...]Unless that person is from a verdant race[...]

From zwet's claim. Not 100% proof but I don't see how he could made this up and I do believe the three main races (five if you include Gerudo and Hylians) are part of this game.

[Dekes]

EBWOP:
@LL
So you know it?
Because Cupcake sure as hell didn't claim such a thing.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Interesting though, that instead of looking into Cupcake's Iso you're looking into mine trying to discredit me by implying my opinion on someone's Iso is invalid because my own Iso shows lack of activity.

This. Lady Lambdadelta chooses to attack him while completely dropping the defense on Cupcake. Doesn't make sense.

I could see what LL is talking about when the elemnts are mentioned and the three goddesses being their protectors, but then, according to that, shouldn't everyone have an element?

Not everyone will have an element, because not all races in this game are part of the 3 sacred ones. Link would not have an element, nor would Princess Zelda. Nor would Ganondorf, Inigo, Malon, Talon, Impah, and of the Kakariko Village people.

There are races without elements because they don't figure into the big 3.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP:
@LL
So you know it?
Because Cupcake sure as hell didn't claim such a thing.

By in the game, I mean in LoZ:OoT. Sorry if that was confusing.

[Exilon]

I kinda confused elements with races. Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I was talking about someone claiming to BE a verdant. So far, we only got 1 reference to that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I kinda confused elements with races. Sorry, I wasn't specific enough. I was talking about someone claiming to BE a verdant. So far, we only got 1 reference to that.

But I know that Verdant means of the woods.

I don't know why people are arguing against the fact that the goddesses are defenders of these three elements/elemental races, and thus would be classified under those elements too?

And if this is true, I see nothing wrong with that part of Cupcake's claim.

Also, when Cupcake almost had a chicken jump her... a /BLUE FORCE FIELD/ appeared.

That blue force field is commonly known as Nayru's love. Check out the game (video game) if you don't believe me.

[Dekes]

Because you are the guardian of a race doesn't make you one of the race.

Impa is Zelda's "guardian", but that doesn't make her a Hylian.

Cab you link me to a site that says Nayru's of the aquatic race? I googled it and ZeldaWiki'd it but I haven't found anything so far.

[jmj3000]

Din flat out is fire. There is a reason her spell in the game is called "Din's Fire". So, using that logic and connection, its not such a leap to assume Nayru is aquatic and Farore is verdant. I have also always associated water with protection and Nayru's Love is out and out a protection spell. Also Dekes, why contradict yourself? I believe Link would count as a verdant, as he grew up and lived most of his life in Kokiri Forest, even though he isn't a Kokiri.

[Dekes]

Also Dekes, why contradict yourself? I believe Link would count as a verdant, as he grew up and lived most of his life in Kokiri Forest, even though he isn't a Kokiri.

What the..? Where did I say that? I never mentioned Link, but FYI, I do not think he would be a verdant. I see him rather as a Hylian.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://www.zeldawiki.org/Nayru_%28Goddess%29#Attributes

"She is commonly associated with the element of water, and thus she is worshiped as a Goddess of the Seas and other great bodies of water, such as Lake Hylia."

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"Of all the races in the Hyrulean realm, the essence of Nayru is best personified by the Zoras. These fish-like, humanoid, water-dwellers are known for their hierarchical form of government, as well as their stoicism and their great wisdom. Though they are native to Zora's Domain, Zoras are found within waterways throughout the Lanayru Province, even as far south as Lake Hylia."

Still from the aforementioned link.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Need more? I can find more?

[BrookylnConstruction]

Also, when Cupcake almost had a chicken jump her... a /BLUE FORCE FIELD/ appeared.

This didn't happen.

You'd think people arguing in the great plains of Hyrule would attract monsters...
Anyways, you argue loudly about how obviously the one going under the pseudonym of "Chesskid" is horribly suspicious.
As representative of all races bicker frantically, one of you turn and see...

"Hey... what's that big cloud?"
"I... don't think that's a cloud..."
"Oh my god... HYSTERIC CUCCO FLOCK, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!"

As all of you scatter in order to avoid the threat of CHICKENS, Le Cupcake trips.
Upon seconds, the Cuccos are upon him, doing what Cuccos do best:
...Vanish in flashy blue particles?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vanish in flashy blue particles...?

I'm fairly sure that's equal to a force field. Sorry I wasn't specific enough.

[Dekes]

Okay, different ZeldaWiki. That would make at least the claim believable (if it's not a safeclaim). Doesn't convince me of her alignment though. She's been accusing a lot of people of misrepping her and has been pursuing only lynches of people who expressed a lot of suspicion towards her. And there's still the fact she was so adamant on lynching chess (Isos #13, #16, #17, #55, #56), yet never lays down a vote on him. Way to passive-aggressively push a (mis-?)lynch without voting.

And the relations between you two and the fact you're on my scumlist, too, solidifies my suspicions on both of you.

[Dekes]

EBWOP: "pursuing lynches by voting them"

[Bunnylover]

LL, I thank god that you are in the game lol. You know your LoZ: OoT. I completely agree with you that the three goddess would be associated with an element.
Although I think Ganadorf would be align with dark/shadow, but that isn't really important.